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    System keeps corrupting itself

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by iamapato01, Jul 25, 2006.

  1. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    I have having a little issue with my 8204. For some reason, the computer will randomly just mess up. For example...

    I went away for the weekend and came back, turned on the computer and it didnt start up all the way (Only half the processes). I had to hold the button to restart and scandisk automatically truncated various system files. It still didnt work so I had to do it again. It truncated more files and I had to boot again with my own scandisk and it fixed even MORE files, then it works fine. Some settings were changed but I changed them back. The computer was running fine before this and it just messed up randomly.

    So my question is why is it corrupting itself? Is it due to the fact that it is formatted in FAT32 still? Will NTFS be more reliable?

    thanks



    PS. I dont have any viruses or spyware, and I even have very few programs installed.
     
  2. yamla

    yamla Notebook Consultant

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    There's a very good chance that you have bad RAM. Get memtest86 and run some extensive tests for a while.
     
  3. Ur ex-wife

    Ur ex-wife Notebook Consultant

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    just to tell you, no computer is completely virus free..., but if you scanned it and nothing, it is either a really bad virus, or small, multiple insiglificant ones...
     
  4. yamla

    yamla Notebook Consultant

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    Of course some computers are completely virus free. That makes no sense.
     
  5. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    i scanned it with windows defender, avast, and adaware. None showed anything.

    Why would bad RAM cause this issue?
     
  6. yamla

    yamla Notebook Consultant

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    If you have bad RAM, all other bets are off. Normally, though, I'd have expected you to see some blue screens of death if this was the cause of your problems.
     
  7. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    I have never seen a blue screen since owning the computer so...
     
  8. DoubleHelix

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    try this... search good for repair registry and for ccleaner... run those...

    its prob not "bad" ram since he hasnt installed any new and he says his computer worked fine before...

    it however could be a bad registry or to much junk "aka" cache files cloging the start..

    also defrag your computer... see if this works...
     
  9. dragonesse

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    In my experience, that's an indication of a bad harddrive. Make a backup of your stuff. Testing your RAM is also a good thing to do, but make the backup in case it is the harddrive.
     
  10. Sykotic

    Sykotic Notebook Evangelist

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    how full is your drive, do you defrag often, how large is your page file.
    I have noticed that once a drive is more than 80% full or you have a very large pagefile your doing excessive writes and reads from/to your drive. This cause fragged segments.
     
  11. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    My drive is 12GB used of 52GB on the first partition and 9GB used on the second partition of 53GB.

    Heres the pagefile stuff I dont know what most of it means.
    [​IMG]


    Does anything stand out?
     
  12. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    bump^^


    thanks
     
  13. Jalf

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    First, unless you have a good reason not to (such as being able to access the disk from Linux), you should convert from FAT32 to NTFS. Yes, it's more reliable, and much faster to fix errors too.

    Second, check your HD for bad sectors
    Third, check your Event Log (under Administrative Tools), and see if there are any errors listed that are related to either system crashes or harddrive problems.
    Fourth, back up your harddrive, as it sounds like it could be about to die.

    :)

    Oh, almost forgot. Is anything, and I do mean *anything* overclocked?
     
  14. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    No nothing is overclocked.


    Will the automated Acer D2D recovery still work if I reformat to NTFS? Also how would I go about reformatting to ntfs? I dont really want to lose the hidden partition or existing partitions!
     
  15. Jalf

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    You don't need to reformat. Windows comes with an utility that lets you convert an existing partition to NTFS.

    As for the recovery thingy, doesn't that format the partition? If so, it'll work fine.
     
  16. qohelet

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    i suspect your HD is dying! be sure to back up everything. then check your HD status. NHC can check the status of your HD using SMART. if everything is fine.
    the problem maybe is in your system. Reinstall your OS and remember to use NTFS.
     
  17. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    Even if SMART doesn't spot any problems, I still wouldn't trust the HD. At least take regular backups until you've found out what's wrong
     
  18. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    Ok so how to I go about formatting the drive to NTFS without losing all my data? When I tried it said it couldnt because it was the system drive.

    And what's the best method of backing up the drive? onto DVD's?
     
  19. qohelet

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    try using partition magic.
     
  20. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    Type this in at the command line:
    convert c: /fs:ntfs

    It'll probably then say it can't lock the drive, and instead ask if it should perform the operation at next boot. Just say yes to that, and you're done. :)

    About backing up, depends on the size of the disk.

    I personally don't have the patience to back up to dvd's, but if you don't mind, that's definitely an option. Otherwise you need a separate HD to back up to.
     
  21. iamapato01

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    Great, and I won't lose any existing data by doing this?
     
  22. Jalf

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    Nope, you're safe. :)

    I doubt it'll solve your problem though, but NTFS is a lot more robust *when* an error occurs. It's better at recovering, and can do so *much* quicker.
     
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    Hi iamapato,
    You zhould check witht Acer on the d2d thing. I was looking at an Acer and there was an issue with NTFS and some of the Acer recovery tools. Also as has been said NTFS is a much better file system. It also uses smaller allocation units that allows for more storage in the same amount of hard drive space.