Thinking of upgrading but some questions first.

Ok so I got a Vista HP laptop with home premium and i've had for about a year and a half. I can't stand Vista!! I'm even triple booting Vista, XP, and Ubuntu. I got 3 partitions, the Vista (main one), XP, and an HP recovery drive (Ubuntu sits on the Vista drive).

I'm thinking of upgrading to 7 and I ran that thing from MS thats checks ur system if its ok, and everything was cool except for a few minor issues which I can handle, but it says i can do it.

I wanna know if installing Win7 will screw up my boot order because of the vista bootloader which i use now (for the first run, cuz i know EasyBCD easily fixes it). And if i upgrade (not a clean install) will it get rid of the Vista garbage that it came with (the programs that it installs and nobody uses)? Will it keep ALL my installed programs and files? I really dont wanna do the clean install cuz i got the whole adobe suite basically, among other production programs and i dont waste a lot of time reinstalling them. And if you upgrade, will it waste more space on the HD by keeping the Vista crap (if it does)?

 

Windows 7 is built upon your Vista Garbage. So don't upgrade.

 

I meant like the programs Vista installs, like the windows live and the other stuff that nobody uses, cuz i know 7 is downsized quite a bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_removed_from_Windows_7

 

Coolguy knows nothing. XP is based on the NT 3.1 released in 1993, where "security" was the company LAST thing on it's list. And that is why a 8 year old kid can program a dangerous virus and have it plague the internet infecting XP systems. Also that is why programs like Apple Updater can secretly install Safari and other software without you knowing.

Ok let me explain, HP is the junk master. To reduce the cost of your laptop, and increase profits, they BLAST Windows with Adware, commercials, and trial software, with 1 or 2 crappy trial anti-virus from who ever is willing to pay more. PLUS, they install the 32-bit version of Vista on most systems no mater how much RAM you have, despite having a 64-bit CPU.

You are the not the first one that has this, and certainly not the last one. Acer, HP, and Toshiba are the most guilty computer manufacture to do this with their system. Sony is the least. And Dell Buisness and Lenovo are slim to none (like you might get a DVD codec player, which in any case you need (well unless you have Win7 or Vista Home Premium or Ultimate).

The same story will repeat when you buy another HP system with Windows 7, and the same story was with XP (but less, as HP was less crazy)

To enjoy a smooth and enjoyable experience with Vista, install Vista 64-bit. If you have it already, then uninstall EVERYTHING, even anti-virus (except drivers and on screen notification application). Then use CCleaner, to remove ALL teh startup application, clean the system and registry.
Then go to C:\Windows\Prefetch, and delete all the files inside (normally you don't touch this folder, but it's clean Windows boot pre-load system, so that it doesn't load all the junk into memory during boot to have it after correct it)
Restart your computer, then defrag it.
Once done, restart your computer again, and within few days, Vista will perform a boot optimization and will boot faster upon next restart.

Use proper anti-virus, just as NOD32, or Avast, or Microsoft Security Essential (renamed, optimized, and made lighter (feature and system) One Care. Reviews are really good for it).

Vista 64-bit should be more responsive than XP due to it's impressive memory management, where the HDD is only used if needed. Contrary to XP, where you have a 2GB per application limit, PLUS you have it treat as if you are low in memory no mater how much RAM you have, therefor dump everything your HDD instead of leaving it on your RAM so that the system is responsive. A true Vista ready system should have the same or higher battery life than XP due to the reduce hard disk activity.

Windows 7 adds even more responsiveness, rendering it faster then XP, providing A LOT of optimization, which result as fast as XP, if not faster, boot, lots of bug fixes, improved system navigation system to increased productivity (see new features of Windows 7).

Vista was all about a new kernel, which was desperately needed (and I quote from Microsoft at XP release) everything else were bonuses, Windows 7 is all about new features, bug fixes and optimization.

 

My post was a sarcasm.

 

Why don't you explain it to me why you said vista is garbage? I would like to know too. Personally, I am getting rid of XP in my network in favor of Vista and Windows 7 eventually.

 

thanks dude, but theres a few things im still pondering. i dont really want a better experience in Vista, cuz thats why im tryin to go for Windows 7, and my Vista is 64-bit btw. Ill check out that ccleaner, but TuneUp has been doin awesome so far. but i really dont wanna uninstall everything (not givin up office 07, adobe cs4, sony creative suite, etc.) thats why this upgrade option seems better.

I've already tweaked the hell outta vista to get it to be the way i wanted it, and it still has 85 processes at one time and eats up 2 outta 4 gigs of ram (when my xp has less than half those processes and using only 500mb at one time). i guess i just really wanna know, what things will carry over from Vista to 7 by just upgrading (not clean install).

 

You haven't understood my post (was a sarcasm to the OP's post saying Vista garbage).

 

Ok, well be smart... keep those... I meant everything FROM HP.. all teh sofwtare that YOU did not install. Also, if you don't have one of the mentioned A/V, you may want to look for another one.. one that doesn't kill your system performance like you are facing now.

You do realize that if you have a crappy experience with Vista, you will have the same crappy experience in Win7, as all the garbage will be transferred to Win7 (if you do a upgrade... that is why some people recommend a clean install... but if your system is already clean, and never infected by anything, and you don't have a corrupt registry, the upgrade will feel identically to a clean install).

Oh boy... well if by tweak you mean breaking Vista... then yes, that might explain your poor performance and all your problems. Vista and Win7 is auto-maintenance, please do not tweak the OS. IT'S NOT XP!!!!. This was done in XP days as it was a bad OS, badly designed, badly managed, as it's just a pile of patches since Win NT3. Again, this is wt Microsoft said that they desperately needed a new OS from scratch.

 

well, its not bad performance by any means, its still as fast as it should be, and processes are kept to about 0-4% when idle. i just don't know why it needs half my 4gb of ram to run when idle. oh and btw i have AVG free for AV.

plus, the only tweaks i've done is stop some useless startup items, some processes, uninstall some programs, disable stuff like UAC, just normal tweaks i've found around the net, but nothin to the registry, and it has helped. but i've read about people with 30-40 processes running in Vista when the lowest i've got was about 65, but i don't wanna get really into and screw something up, the processes running are usually the ones i need.

but with xp, i've reformatted my desktop like once a year (its pretty old) with xp pro and i never have to tweak anything with startup, processes, registry, anything.

btw any program that came with my HP i did uninstall them (NOT the drivers of course, just the norton and stuff). my registry is perfect and i defragged like a couple weeks ago with tuneup 08. actaully all my drivers except one are good to go for the upgrade according to that upgrade checker from MS.

 

Oh, Okay. I am sorry. I didn't carefully read the whole post. We are cool. It was my bad.