Time to kiss Google Chrome Goodbye

Google still on track to limit ad-blockers in Chrome

 

I've never used Chrome. It is way too pervasive for my tastes. Google makes no pretenses that you are not being data mined and that ad revenue is their bread and butter. I would expect no less for them to limit or even eliminate ad blockers as it cuts into their revenue stream. It comes with all the free services. Regardless, if I really want to run Chromium technology, I'll run Opera. I still use Firefox after all these years.

 

Brave is my go to. Granted it is Chromium

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If they plan to take Raymond as a Google Employee and bake uBO into chrome and lockout other platform then its bad news.

 

in a similar boat here, been using SRWare Iron for ages now, chromium based with all performance advantages but without any spy-features and full ad blocker functionality

 

Can those chromium browsers enable you to still sync your stuff with Google like bookmarks, passwords, etc?

 

Yes to bookmarks, I don't know about password, I use dashlane. I want to say yes, almost 85% certain that you can import and save.

As far as syncing bookmarks across devices. It uses something called Brave Sync (beta) it does okay but nothing perfect like chrome. The sync doesn't update as frequently as I would like.

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If you like more visual and gui customizations like stackable tabs, web page annotation and lots of gesture support, check out chromium based Vivaldi too.

Brave is also a fantastic chromium option with a built in ad blocker, incognito mode with Tor, native torrent handling and an interesting rewards program for allowing advertisement impressions.

 

This wouldn't necessarily be a big deal since I use Adguard's client software on my personal computers, but I need to have something that will allow content blocking on my work laptop, which is a machine that I can't install software on myself. I've been using Chrome with it, but it does have Firefox, which I'm sure our in-office IT guy will have no issue updating to the current version. I'm sampling Firefox on my Razer Blade at the moment, and it seems to be working reasonably well after reinstalling Adguard's security certificate.

 

I've switched to Chromium, I'm guessing the above ad blocking limitation does not apply to Chromium only to Chrome right?

 

I do not know if they will push these changes to Chromium. For me Brave is working great.

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The thing is, I need this Chrome Sync so I prefer if Chromium will remain like this.

 

I didn't like the fact that Chromium doesn't auto update itself and the builds are scattered all over the web from official to developer builds. So I just tried CentBrowser and it also has the Google Sync Features. Seems good so far and it has nice little tweaks like having the old style squared tabs and a button to mute sounds for when you are opening multiple sites with videos and whatnot.

@Mr. Fox

 

How Google's anti-adblocking draft affects other Chromium-based browsers

 

New isn't always "better". That's why I keep retro versions of everything, and can run from old hardware, OS's, and software unaffected by transitory mistakes in direction of "management".

The "cat's out of the bag" and Google is trying to stuff it back in and gain control, or it's just a way of quantifying the needs - and that limit is an arbitrary integer placeholder.

If it's got a setting, and the source is available, you can change the limit - increase it - and build your own.

It's too soon to panic, but it's good to pay attention and call out things that look "dangerous".

 

https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2019...r-einschraenkungen-immer-rueckgaengig-machen/

Vivaldi: "We will always undo the Google Content Blocker restrictions"

well now this is a great alternative

 

More junk from the Morons...
Google Chrome 75 appears in the volume control on the desktop and lock screen - but you can remove it

Want that <nice> fancy Box? Disgusting!

 

great news guys! @Mr. Fox

Chrome's Adblocker controversy: Google raises maximum limit

 

IDK what to say, except they shouldn't limit it at all. If there have been problems without a limit in place then describe the problem and allow the developers to tune their own extensions to deal with dynamically adjusting their filters to match the available memory or whatever other resource is limited.

Setting it at 30k was just to get attention. 150k isn't enough and it will establish an upper limit. If accepted the upper limit will move down again for another "reason".

Right now I've trimmed my filters in ublock Origin substantially down by not enabling a bunch of lists - and I am still way over the proposed limit:

"189,148 network filters ＋ 135,731 cosmetic filters from:"

Even on my most modest configuration, 10 year old computer - 4GB memory - I never have had a problem with Chrome stability or run out of resources or memory, even with maximum available pre-made lists + custom lists added.

Enabled all the pre-made lists:
"261,546 network filters ＋ 217,901 cosmetic filters from:"

This whole Google Chrome blocker limit discussion is a manipulative effort, the concern / "danger" is bogus.

We may need to rely on our own builds or 3rd party builds of Chrome to remove the limits.

 

This is cognitive dissonance; you mention you want Chrome Sync, but you also don't want Google to track your usage?

Google's sync service is free; if it's free, you are the product.

 

Firefox's sync works just fine. I don't have a ton of extensions so it wasn't a big deal to set them up from scratch. It is notably slower than Chrome, but it still does what I need it to do.

 

Mine is only around 150000 lists and I hope Chrome or any browsers includes those additional lists to safeguard user's privacy.

 

Google Denies That Chrome's Killing Ad Blockers tomshardware.com | Jun 14,2019

This almost feels like watching a fox point out all the ways a coyote's tried to steal a farmer's livestock. There's no doubt that malicious extension developers exist, and the driving force behind Silicon Valley's surveillance economy certainly knows how technology can be exploited to profit off the collection of personal information, but the hypocrisy is just a little unsettling.

 

Apparently they are raising the limits for hosts blocking on adblockers...
Hopefully other browsers will totally lift those limits and Google won't be such a monopoly and open their eyes.. Getting tired of their sh*t..

 

That would be one way for google to pull up a winner in this, provide a base level of pre-loaded ad-blocking / malware blocking of 150,000 filter entries out of the box, and then allow unlimited additional entries from add-on / extension lists.

 

I did not even know anything other than chrome and firefox was viable. I was using Firefox, and upon seeing this thread, I looked up Brave browser. Thank you for introducing me to this beauty. I love the minimal interface and it feels a lot more fluid. I do not know why, but I feel like I have a larger screen somehow. Just installed my password manager and imported bookmarks and I feel right at home.

PS. I know.. So many feelings..

 

Thought I could deal with Firefox being slow. I can't. Brave and Vivaldi are nice but neither is able to properly sync up with the Dashlane Windows application - it needs to be enabled at the browser level. Opera would be great, but you can't disable the stupid speed dial function. I'll stick with Cent Browser for the time being and just deal with Chrome on my work laptop. Hopefully the Adguard developers will figure out a way to work around the Google limitations within the extension since I can't have the app running on that particular computer.

 

I started using the new Chromium based Edge dev builds. Did not think I’d be using a browser worked on by MS but it’s been pretty decent. But yeah I agree Firefox was just painfully slow compared to Chromium based browsers. I let it port all my bookmarks/passwords so I’m not held back on Chrome due to the lack of Google sync.

 

You mean without using the dashlane extension? Mine works fine with extension.

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No, the Dashlane extension was not working in concert with the browser and Windows application. With Chrome, its standard derivatives (eg Cent Browser), or Firefox, the extension would install and operate just fine without my having to log into it separately as I would on a computer without the Dashlane app already on it. I think I figured out a solution/workaround, and which was to disable verification of the browser's code signature within the app. That being said, Brave's built-in ad blocker isn't all that great. I've seen more than a few ads get past it, with reddit being the prime offender.

 

+1 I use the sync feature amongst my three machines. Works great

 

Can you expand on FF being slow? Specific sites? Haven't really noticed it myself.

 

In my experience, FF is slow on particular hardware, e.g. MTK smartphones. No idea why, it just is.

 

That is true; I had forgotten about my phone. The mobile experience does seem to be slow though i don't have any benchmarks to reference.

 

Even on PC it’s at least for me perceptibly slower and a bit janky on most sites. Even most benchmarks I’ve seen/done correlate with that. I’ve had Edge (Chrome based dev/beta) and Firefox side by side for a while. It’s still good to have competition though and Firefox has done a good job of helping push browsers towards better privacy.

 

The Yoga 2 in my signature is primarily used by my wife. She sticks with FF because she's used it for years, and it just feels sluggish compared to Chrome and its derivatives. Yahoo and various shopping sites seem to take an age to load.

 

Feel like firefox is much better since version 57.... Chrome is on the other hand having troubles with some pages (CPU gets really hot on DSM page with my W701).
BTW, Those browsers really sucks RAMs like a sinkhole. I'm having "not enough memory" hint for just web browsing with 16GB RAM :/

 

Switch to Linux, FF on Windows consume a GB of extra RAM. On linux, the same amount of tabs say 10-20tabs consume <2.5GB while on Win 10 I just crossed 4-6GB mark!

 

Chrome runs each tab and extension as a separate thread so that one tab/extension crashing doesn’t crash the entire browser like in Firefox. Down side is more memory usage. Firefox now is using independent threads for UI and Web Content and I believe extensions, but not thread per tab. I have 32GB RAM but I don’t think I’ve ever used anywhere near half that even with Chrome with numerous tabs. My only extensions are privacy badger and uBlock Origin. I switched over to the new Chromium based Edge.

 

Gave Firefox another run, and the update to version 70 has brought vastly improved performance on my machines. Sites are loading much faster now. Chromium still has the edge, but the gap is much closer than it was previously.

 

So, will this spill over to edge as well?

 

No kidding, I reinstalled Firefox after your post. It feels night and day different, much faster now and no too bad compared to Chromium derivatives for everyday use.

 

Cent Browser hasn't been updated since June (with Chromium 74 as its base) and the developers are copping an attitude at people who are rightly criticizing them for the slow update cycle. I'm going to try Kinza next, but if that doesn't work I might just adopt Firefox full time since its performance has improved so much.

 

Can I just say that the software reporter tool is incredibly annoying? IIRC Google says they're scanning for software that's "incompatible" with Chrome. I don't buy it - they're doing what Google does best.

Never liked Chrome and have been a Firefox user for 10+ years. If someone needs extensions that are exclusive to the Chrome web store, consider another Chromium browser like Opera, Brave, or Vivaldi.

 

Block the Chrome Software Reporter Tool

Navigate to: C:\Users\Your Computer Usrername\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data (Make sure you have hidden files to be shown in File Explorer Options)
Right-click on the folder SwReporter and select Properties from the menu.
Switch to the Security tab.
Select Advanced on the page that opens.
Click on "Disable inheritance" and select "remove all inherited permissions from this object."
Select apply and in the Windows Security prompt "yes."
Select Ok
Select Ok again.

 

Looks like a recent update changed the part after clicking 'SwReporter'. Now I get a folder named 41.203.300.3 with a file inside that says 'software_reporter_tool.exe and many .dll files and other files. (Win 7)

 

Go firefox, support people with a good cause.