To those who lost "Archive" in Outlook in the last MS Update

OK, I don't think this has been posted already:

Anyway, in the recent round of MS updates someone messed up and in Office 2007 (not sure about others) it might happen that you no longer have an archive option.

Took me a little google to figure it out - but the solution is simple.
It's a bad update, uninstall it and it's back.

The offending update is KB2412171


Source (German):
Outlook 2007: AutoArchivieren und Archivieren verschwunden

 

who still uses office 2007 and vista? *smiles and runs away*

 

All those people who don't want to waste money for insignificant improvements in Office 2010.

Yes, it is better - but it's not worth the money of you have 2007.

And Vista is the same.
What's the point of spending money on Win7 when Vista runs fine and you don't have a specific issue.

And just to shut you up - if you check the link you might have read that the guy actually asking the question was on Windows 7 not Vista.

 

as it's an office question, os is quite irrelevant

and both sure are worth the money at least i don't get the corrupted update...

 

Coming from an older Office Suite - yes, but not from 2007 to 2010 - unless maybe on a 64Bit OS in Excel if you have the need for such large spreadsheets.
Although Excel is horrible once datasets become large.

And you brought the OS into it - not me.

And the update has been pulled since - there is no reason why the next office update for 2010 couldn't ruin your installation by accident.
Accidents do happen.

I could say something in German which I won't - but I am getting annoyed right now.
This is not something that a newer version of Office or the OS automatically prevents.
(Which your first post sort of implies)

 

well, one of us uses tons of smileys in it's post. this should hint you to something...

and yes, 2010 is worth it for several reasons (ribbon finally everywhere, outlook and onenote where a mess), the new backspace is great, too. users love the new menu, seems much more simple for non-techies to use. but mainly outlook (wich you use, i don't).

 

Considering that you don't actually need the ribbon in Outlook that much because you don't do any formatting in the main Outlook Window...
And when you send emails you get the ribbon in 2007 - where it's useful.
And "users love the new menu" - not a very accurate measurement, considering how much junk is bought, accepted by users.

Sometimes because they just want some new shiny rubbish or because they do not have a clue.
-> Outlook 2010 had only 1 SINGLE benefit (although I'm sure 2007 could be modified to do the same) - it searched all contacts for email addresses automatically, 2007 only searches through the ones already sent.
Not a major problem though - and there is the address book.

OneNote - can't comment on that. (Pointless for me)

And smilies mean absolutely nothing - and you know it.
Something very American and British - always smile - my reaction to that is shut your mouth I don't want to see your badly maintained teeth.

 

users love the new menu is quite accurate if you deployed the new office to some thousands of users during the last few months, and all of them very impressively surpised and happy with the new menu (and still are after those months). for them, the way you can print is one of the biggest gains over the old one (and they print wayyy too often).

smileys mean i'm not that serious. and you know it.

 

Maybe the print preview is useful - to be honest, I never used it.
It's not something that's a must - and I wouldn't recommend to anybody that they should pay one or few hundred € (not sure what the Home & Student version costs, 150€ (as 2007), 200?) to upgrade their Office Suite for minimal gains.

2003 or older to 2007/2010 yes - 2007 to 2010, no.

And being serious - I take anything written generally as being serious - and you know that too. Smiley's I view them as someone looking down on someone smiling because they feel they know everything...
Might be just me, but that's how I judge them.

 

the home students is 35$ here. and for most users it's really a big feature (nothing a techy can ever understand..)

heh, that's typical you, det. as always, searching the negative. i, for one, search the positive, and will thus have merry christmas. i truthfully wish you the same, but don't believe you'll have it. as usual..

 

And 100€ on Amazon.de - without Outlook.
Outlook 2007 was 150€ back then...

But yes, I might seek the negative - you have a point there.

A merry christmas... possibly... anyway - enjoy your festivities

 

amazon: 100€ for the FAMILY PACK (that's 3 licences, so you're at 33€ . outlook is definitely not worth the extra cost for home users..

yeah, i do have a tiny point there (see smiley? that's for sarcasm because i used 'tiny'..)

i'm already enjoying.

 

Which doesn't help you a lot if you do not have 3 users.
And you can't buy a single license.

You're stuck with 3.

And Outlook - yes it is, makes managing your email accounts easier. And allows you to compose emails offline.

 

we can buy single licenses here.

windows live mail, works offline, too. gmail soon will be offline, too (again, it was already). thunderbird, too. others, too. all allow managing of multiple mail accounts from all sources in one way or another. outlook is great when bound to an exchange server. else, not worth the cost (still good, of course).

and most have 3 users. there aren't much with less than two family members AND friends who have a pc.

 

OT: I love how "faux" polite you both manage to be.

As to Outlook's "archive" option going away, it's better to just let AutoArchive back up Outlook items into a storage folder for you. This is especially true in the age of IMAP email, where none of the e-mail is actually on your machine, you're basically just using a different "viewfinder" to "see" the mail messages.

You can turn on AutoArchive for the Inbox here: Description of the AutoArchive feature in Outlook 2007 and in Outlook 2003

As far as a desktop email program's "worth" goes, I use Outlook 2007 (and Office 07) because it works. I like viewing both accounts in one program, and I like that I don't necessarily have to be online to compose a message, or catch up on an account. Yes 2010 is a great upgrade, but if I don't have to spend money quite yet, then why do so?

In any case, regarding the update, MS has pulled it from Windows Update.

 

we looooove each other (lovehate relationships of the worst kind in the internet )

about all your features: all of them are available in free packages, so none of these are a point for outlook. the one thing for outlook is it's user interface and it's native exchange connectivity. everything else is the same with all other solutions. just a different interface.

 

Tis true! I was going to try Postbox until it went paid, then I figured I might as well use Outlook if I'm paying for an E-Mail application, and it comes with my Office purchase.

 

I have both office 2007 and 2010 but use outlook 2007 because I like it over 2010.

That update made my outlook crazy slow so I just uninstalled it.

 

Be my guest to find a single license in Germany (I don't like English software - I'm used to the menus being German, although I could survive in English software)

Thunderbird - brr... I played with it maybe 2 years ago? (or was it 1) - Never again.
And you are forgetting the synchronisation of contacts with a phone on Outlook although the good old paper address book is still nicer - just in cases of email less practical.

About family members - I suppose there is my mother, but that would make it two licenses - still not an ideal deal.

-> I prefer to manually chuck all emails that are old to an archive folder - I suppose it could be one automatically... I just never set it up that way.

IMAP - brr.. I use POP, old fashioned, yes.
But IMAP would result in individual files - with POP I throw everything into one simple inbox, done

And well - Dave and I have our differences - and when we hit those it tends to end in arguments...

 

I must admit, I'm kind of surprised there...

I've been using Thunderbird for many many years now (was with Pine before that, on Linux), and I have never looked for another email client.. and I have had it do everything I'd wanted to do with my emails (I manage 4 of them, 2 official, 2 personal)...

Anyway, just a note

Cheers and Merry Christmas to You Det

PS., Nice thread btw.. In the middle of all your Love, there has been some excellent information flowing to and fro - Informative Thanks.

 

the single licenses in switzerland are german, too..

never again is the point where you fail.

and you miss that there are much other ways that work just as well, or even better. but it's not like it's not doable without outlook.

you have to be the only person in the world not capable of having two family members or friends with pc's that one could share the buy with and we both know how sad that is.

see above: change is good, retrying and reexploring stuff that one got used to, to make ones live more simple is always good.

pop, you fail

? you really fail here..

they only end in one point: you fail

anyways, i guess we're sort of a comedy couple in here, teaching people good stuff while fighting. so in the end, everyone gains, i'm happy, and you fail it's awesome

 

On the other hand, something very German here: Needlessly being rude...

 

New backspace? Am I missing something here? What is new about backspace?

 

-> Especially the British are actually universally known for bad teeth

And I just can't stand the faux politeness in the UK either - if something is bad I say it, if the other person can't accept it, well, get lost, I don't need their stupid "always positive attitude" - that's possibly also partially responsible for the atrocious condition of the English school system... how are people supposed to learn if they never get negative feeedback...

But I think this heads off topic...

 

backpane, backspace, don't remember the exact name. the fullscreen menu, simply.

but not being polite is independent on the type of feedback. and not being polite is never useful to gain what you plan to do. if you want to give negative feedback to someone in a way he will accept it, you have to be polite, you have to show respect. else you'll fail.

instead of not being able to stand faux politeness, consider how people have to stand faux rudeness over nothing all the time. now that's annoying. it doesnt' make sense just as well, and is rude, too.

 

Ah, yes, sorry, I wasn't sure I might have missed something wonderful. Anyway, I agree, that's fairly neat.

On the other hand, back to Outlook, I really hate the way ribbon icons may change their size depending on how much stuff is in the ribbon, together with the limited customizability. Worst of all is the fact that quite a few of the icons only come in one resolution, and look horrible if they appear in larger sizes. If there was a way to force the icons to appear in the small size only, then that problem would be easy to fix, but that can't be done, apparently.

 

well, the default is that most users run those apps without resizing all the time => they will get the best possible layout given the screen resolution. but yes, if you happen to resize your windows quite often, it can be annoying. just don't forget that this is not common at all (out of our 50000 workers at our company, there might be around.. 100 who actually resize windows).

as we know, microsoft mainly served the majorities. which often is a good thing (but sometimes isn't. hate you for killing the home server product!! i'll never forget that one!! (and killing steady state!!))

 

It's called backstage view. I like the term personally..

 

hm yeah, backSTAGE.. been there quite often and i like both the term and the idea. i somehow always forget the term, though..

i hope they replace the win7 startmenu with a backstage menu in win8. fullscreen and all navigateable (nothing not in there, it would be like "a windows app" for launching app, configuring the os, and such. all that is cluttered in the tons of different ui's currently existing)