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    VISTA 64bit ultimate - issues with dwM.exe and sidebar.exe chewing up resources

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by vivithemage, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. vivithemage

    vivithemage Notebook Evangelist

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    Seems like these 2 programs run constantly making my both my cores range from 10-30% usage at idle.

    I assume DWM.exe and sidebar.exe are running becuase of the sidebar (which i oddly like).


    Is there a way to make these not chew up so much resources at idle? This is on my stock Asus G1S...otherwise the machine is spot on perfect.
     
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    vivithemage Notebook Evangelist

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    Any ideas ?
     
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    eyecon82 Notebook Deity

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    this is normal..mine does the same thing...at idling..always around 10-30% cpu usage
     
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    vivithemage Notebook Evangelist

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    I guess I will have to deal with it. Cant wait for a service pack for vista....
     
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    There is nothing wrong with that usage especially since you consider that everything affects the usage. I dont believe that the servicepack will address that as well. I get that but it includes Dreamscene in the background. Is yours on?
     
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    vista definitely 'abuse' your machine...but it's a good thing....who cares about 10-30% of usage at idle...you're not using it...so who cares
     
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    I dont agree that Vista abuses the system any more or less than XP. Both systems need to be fine tuned (hint hint tweaks below lol).

    Everyone seems to forget when XP came in it was the worst gaiming environment and just evil....just like Vista is now.
     
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    I have to disagree with that, along with MSFT. vista with a clean install definitely abuses your system more than XP, perhaps the tweaks settles vista down a little bit....but even msft advertised vista as taking advantage of your resources more and to utilize your system to its full potential
     
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    I agree but you are considering this in the wrong sense.

    Vista takes more resources...yes but it also gives so much more in its own. Lets use the typical crash a program rather than the whole system example.

    Vista, on the whole, has also forced major change in industry. We can buy a basic system now for less that was just yesterday considered a monster system. Why? because, to put Vista there it has to be!!! This was a brilliant move by Microsoft to benefit the consumer. They forced the whole industry to upgrade and realign itself.

    Now lets move from that and go to XP. You are saying exactly what was said of XP on its first release before its much needed updates.
     
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    On a desktop, if you're paying your electricity bill yourself, you might. Considering the typical computer is idling something like 95% of the time, 10-30% more CPU usage at idle is a noticeable increase.

    Um, XP never required 10-30% CPU time at idle. That's just scary.

    And honestly, who cares what XP was like 6 years ago? Isn't the idea that software should *get better* over time? An OS you buy in 2007 should be better than one you bought in 2001.
    If it isn't, there's something wrong.

    What do you mean?

    Not really. Seems to be no more or less than the usual improvement. Computers are always getting faster and cheaper, and Vista doesn't seem to have sped that up noticeably.
    I'm going to have to ask for some diagrams or charts plotting price vs performance over the last, say, 3 years before I'll buy that one.

    The biggest change Vista has forced in the hardware industry is in the production of "Vista-ready" stickers.
     
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    if you can afford a computer, i am sure you can afford the extra electricity charges that come along with it

    irregardless, vista uses more resources and 10-30% at idle is normal
     
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    XP did infact have a great deal of CPU usage at start. We just didnt have those neat little gadgets on sidebar to watch it. Further 10-30 is overrated. This is what I get with Dreamscene, a huge resource hog. If I shut that down and then sidebar...there is very little CPU usage.

    When you asked what I meant , I gave you the example. XP crashes. Vista works differently in that it, if a program crashes, you can walk out of it without necessarily rebooting.

    As for the last, you must have missed the whole entry of Vista. (meant humorously). Before Vistas release everyone cried fowl because the typical system would not run Vista. Hardware manufacturers had to up their level as well as software manufacturers. This was the lasgest jump, brought on by hardware or software, that has ever occured by far and I dont really understand how you cannot see it.

    Every new system you buy has been bettered, through hardware, because of its sale of Vista and the fact that it needs to conform. Two years ago, most systems...ok lets say over half of all systems sold that were meant for the average Joe, would fail the (and I hate this term) Vista test...

    So here we are...supersystems at great prices because of Vista and nothing else.

    I dont know how anyone could not see or agree with this, quite frankly but it may be related to age and there are many younger people here. I have live through every version Of MS as well as IBM and so on...Ive seen and experienced the changes through each as a professional and can relate that easily. heck, I remember when bringing in 32Bit was so risky...lol