Video Player that uses GMA 4500MHD included HD decoders ?

Hi there,

What is the best "free" Video player that uses hard coded HD decoders included in Intel GMA 4500MHD graphic card ?

Does this player play DivX /XviD / MKV ?

Thank you,

Denony.

 

Just get CCCP and use Zoom Player. What doesn't work with it, use Media Classic Player. All on the same pack~
Other standard choice is VLC Player~

 

Thank you for your reply.

But does VLC use hard coded GMA 4500MHD decoder, or does it uses the computer main CPU to décode HD movies ?

Thank you.

Best regards

 

as far i know MPC HC uses DXVA so try it

 

Hello,

Thank you for you reply.

I have just tried it. I'm not convinced it uses GMA 4500HD acceleration.

I have downloaded it at Sourceforge (1.2.908.0 / 32 bits) and uziped it. I have downloaded Big Buck Bunny free video (MP4 1280*720 version).

Then I have played the file.

• With MPC HC, CPU Usage is 50 to 60 %
• With VLC 0.9.8, CPU Usage is 55 to 65 %

It is almost the same value and I have red that VLC is not compatible with DXVA.

Is there a special parameter to enable HW acceleration in MPC HD ? Or is there additional files to download ?

Thank you

Denony.

Note : My computer is a Sony Vaio TT11LN with a Core 2 Duo ULV SU9300 (1.2 GHz) and GMA 4500MHD graphic card. It runs Vista Business SP1 32-bit

 

And according to the Great Wiki, none of the GMAs have bitstream processors.
Sorry denony, but until MPC HC includes motion compensation in its DXVA implementation, it won't help.

 

Thank you for the information.

I have also tried WinDVD 9 Plus. But CPU usage is the same that both MPC Homecinema and VLC.

So I really don't know which software uses GMA 4500HD hardware acceleration. May be this is a marketing stuff (from Intel) which will be never use.

 

Apparently Intel totally refuses to implement hardware video accelleration on XP and while they have implemented it on Vista, they refuse to tell the world how to use it unless your last name is Cyberlink and you sign and NDA.

=> As usual, Intel has tremendously overpromised and underdelivered on the GMA 4500MHD, making it yet again a miserable failure. Well, just like all previous Intel graphics solution. I guess some things do never change.

Source

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In case someone still thinks a GMA4500 is a graphics card worth buying, look at Intel's resumee:

GM915 - the reason for vista home basic
Historically they all sucked BIG time. But this one even got's its own Operating System, so bad was it!
Vista Home "Basic" (the one without Aero graphics) was only invented for Intels abysmal i915 graphics core! And doing so even brought Microsoft before the court (for trying to sell customers the old i915 crap by making them believe they were Vista capable using their logo).


GM945 - the really old one that set the limits on how much 3D vista could use
Vista's worst compromise is its support for Intel integrated graphics


X3000/X3100 aka GM965
"performance of the X3100 [...] varies so wildly, [...] it's so inconsistent and random"
"The GMA X3100 is such a crapshoot right now that it's not even worth fighting with."
(Source: Intel GMA X3100 Graphics Performance Review)

"it looks like crap"
"low frames and lack of features"
(Source: Intel's G965 embedded graphics stink - official)

"In Quake3, they don't manage to hit 50% of the frame rate that the i945G [its predecessor]."
"Avoid this one like the plague people."
(Source: The G965 does blow chunks - Numbers trickle out, and they are bad)

"We are hearing that the chipset is actually slower than its predecessor, Lakeport/i945G. Much slower."
"It seems the last and more common stepping, C1, is a mess, with image corruption problems on top of the previously mentioned speed problems."
(Source: Intel G965 is pretty awful )


GM4500 - the newest one and just another another epic fail
So, is everything now fine with the newest offender, the GMA X4500 ? Well, not really!
- still very poor gaming performance (source: inq)
- 24Hz refresh Blu-ray playback is broken (source: (inq)
- HDMI repeaters (as often found in AV receivers) don't work because of Intels overly strict interpretation of copy protection (they even admit themselves that they f***** this one up: Source)
- and now we have the "Outstanding Blu-ray logo capable, HD video playback with full hardware decode from AVC/VC1/MPEG2" (Quote from Intel Website) which turned out not to be "outstanding" but actually "works in some cases on one OS with two programs in a specific version, but only during full moon"

So the greatly promised Video decoding of the new generation turned out to be mostly a lie. Great work intel. Another graphics core for the trashcan!

 

Update!

http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2009/03/15/intel-clear-video-and-h264avc/

But I still wasn't able to get this working with the GMA 4500MHD...

edit:
There's a nice tutorial that describes how to -theoretically- get this to work: http://nunnally.ahmygoddess.net/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/

Unfortunately it still doesn't work for me - DXVA checker doesn't show the neccessary "ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT" entry. I already updated to the newest Intel drivers, which made no change. I have a fresh and clean XP installation, so there are no other media decoders installed that could interfere.

It would be nice if some of you guys tested this. There should be plenty of people out there with the Intel GMA 4500MHD. And with this hardware acceleration the CPU load should decrease dramatically, which results in longer battery life while playing H.264 videos.

 

Whew, great, finally. The new SVN builds mentioned there and in the tutorial below can be downloaded here by the way: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145203

This really is a great tutorial. Thanks for posting this.
Didn't find the link to the Beliyaal build in there though. Probably very well hidden somewhere right in the text.

I'm not 100% sure and cannot check currently because the Intel page is down, but as I wrote one post above:

I guess you're just not using the one OS that Intel supports.

EDIT: Intel Forums are back online, what I was referring to is the statement "Intel follows the HDCP rules more strictly than ATI/Nvidia. Windows XP hardware acceleration with HD video aren't supported because of that." in Post #10 of this Thread: http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/developing-software-for-visual-computing/topic/60703/

 

This. Sucks. Arse.

I can't stand Vista, I tried it since it came with my laptop, but it was slow and a pain in the arse... won't go down that road again.

Are there any statements from the Intel guys if there will ever be XP support?

 

no. xp is dead. try vista again and get used to it. it shouldn't be slow. then again, you have a sony, they have terrible vista installations. try a clean installation.

 

Not yet.

I'm not one of those who never tried Vista but claim it's the worst OS ever. I've made my own experiences with Vista and I was just not satisfied.
I only have the HP Recovery Discs, so theres no clean installation possible.
After booting when the laptop had actually nothing other to do than idling, I always had frequent disk access and high CPU load even after turning off all those fancy indexing, prefetch, superfetch, defrag, special optimizing and other functions in Vista, which resulted in below-average battery life and a almost permanently running fan. All that went away with a clean XP installation (yeah, the laptop came with a real clean XP installation disc without preinstalled software and drivers, but the Vista disc ist fully loaded with a bunch of crap). The only one thing that I liked about Vista was the more flexible network configuration when you use different WLANs etc.

But on topic: This is not an OS issue. AMD and nVidia both managed to release drivers that support hardware acceleration under XP and Vista. From that I can only tell that Intel could do the same if they wanted to.

 

Well, only Vista has the Protected Media Path, so to some degree this is to some part an OS issue.
(The rest of the issue is Intel deciding to do EXACTLY what hollywood wants and not what would actually work for the consumer)

That said, you should really go ahead and give Vista another try. On capable hardware (>= 2GB Ram) it will run very nice and it IS possible to get rid of the constant disk accesses with a few tweaks (such as disabling indexing, disabling windows defender).

If you only have a recovery DVD, get a Vista installation disk from somewhere else and install with the key from your laptop. This works very well (you may have to do a phone activation). You can even switch between 64bit and 32bit this way

Or just give up and use software decoding.


PS: Windows XP came out 7 1/2 years ago (!)

 

Those tweaks you used probably slowed in down... for example, the ReadyBoost service is tied into ReadyBoot, which optimizes the boot process with every boot, kaing it faster and faster with time.

XP is an old, bad platform. Vista is safer, stabler, and more robust overall.

 

Wow thanks! So glad I found this thread! Finally got it hardware acceleration going with x.264 videos! Sweet! I was using Zoom Player before which was fine in handly 720P movies, but MPC all the way now! My CPU is running at ~20-25%, whereas it was >90% with zoom player playing a 1080P movie and the video really lagged behind the audio. No lagging now!

So just to summarize what you need to do:
1. Download the latest MPC here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145203 (download the 32bit version even if you run 64bit OS like me)
2. Setup MPC following instructions here: http://nunnally.ahmygoddess.net/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/
3. Enjoy your x.264 HD videos with true X4500 hardware acceleration!