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    Vista Defrag

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Snowsurfer, Dec 30, 2007.

  1. Snowsurfer

    Snowsurfer Rocky Mtn High

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    Just started using Vista in Nov., I have a defrag. problem, I'll get my HD"s down to 2% defrag. , but the next time I use my computer it will go right back to +- 30% defrag. and it doesn't matter what or how long I'am using it. This thing will not stay in a reasonable state. :mad:
     
  2. tumnasgt

    tumnasgt Notebook Evangelist

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    do you use the defrag tool or command line?
     
  3. Snowsurfer

    Snowsurfer Rocky Mtn High

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    I use the tool and tried a couple third party apps.
     
  4. tumnasgt

    tumnasgt Notebook Evangelist

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    If you open the command line as admin and then run 'defrag.exe c: -v -w' it will perform a defrag on all files (normally it ignores fragments over 64MB) and give you all the details of the defrag (-w for the full defrag and -v for more details)
     
  5. Snowsurfer

    Snowsurfer Rocky Mtn High

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    I'll try it, also noticed CCleaner on a typical cleanup has 10x more junk to clean compared to my other notebook which uses Xp. With the Vista machine I did the Tune xp startup tweak and it defragged a good 3.5 hours but the HD's went right back to the unacceptable levels.
     
  6. ThePug

    ThePug Notebook Consultant

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    Generally the Windows defragmentor software is bad. You could download a free trial of O&O defragmentor or Diskkeeper. Both are good products.
     
  7. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    You should use the search feature to find threads that compare defraging programs. personally, i prefer Auslogics disk defrag.
     
  8. Miths

    Miths Notebook Consultant

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    I've been using Auslogic since I got this laptop as well - very fast and very simple (a bit too simple some might say - no fancy advanced features or scheduling, at least not in the free version).
     
  9. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    I was under the impression (according to the Vista tweak thread) that TuneXP's startup boost should not be used. Instead, I used the other tweak program that someone suggested.

    It could also be a virus. Try pressing F8 at boot and going into Safe Mode w/ Networking. Update your virus scanning software, and run a full scan. It's hard to believe that this is a natural occurrence. Vista is definitely not the root of the cause.
     
  10. Wolf Mike

    Wolf Mike Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is Ccleaner a defragger? since it removes useless files from registry?
     
  11. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    CCleaner has a registry cleaner built in, but it does not have any defrag capability. Basically it's good at removing junk files that build up on any computer.
     
  12. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    No and yes. That could be called registry defraging but it'd be better if you got better programs to do it.
     
  13. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Get JKDefrag and run it in Safe Mode. I think that'll solve your problem.. ;)
     
  14. cvx5832

    cvx5832 Notebook Evangelist

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    JKDefrag has worked well for me too.

    Regards,
    Paolo
     
  15. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    Is JKDefrag really all that good? Why?
     
  16. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    1. It's free.
    2. There are no configuration/install files. Just double click 'JkDefrag.exe' and let it do it's thing. And there are other options as well. :)
    3. It defragments everything (most in Windows), a lot more in Safe Mode.
    4. Efficient. I ran three other defragmenters afterwords and they couldn't find a single file afterwords. I did the opposite (ran them first and then JKDefrag after) and it found several files that they didn't defragment.

    Good program. Congrats to J.C. Kessels.
     
  17. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    How does it compare with Auslogics disk defrag?
     
  18. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    I first ran Auslogics Disk Defrag first.

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    Then I ran JKDefrag after.

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    In the JKDefrag log it said: "Total size of fragmented items: 8192 bytes, 2 clusters, 0.0001% of all items, 0.0000% of disk". Most likely these fragments were of the Auslogics program that I just ran before.

    So, that program seems to be relatively good. I just prefer JKDefrag because it defragments all partitions/drives in one setting and also doesn't need to be installed on my computer. :)
     
  19. Gintoki

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    Alright i'll try it. Seems pretty good.
     
  20. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    I wrote the "expose" on what TuneXP actually does to defrag the boot files. I also posted a message with a batch file that will allow you to do the same thing yourself using the built in Vista defrag app. See my signature line below for a link.

    Gary
     
  21. blackmamba

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    How long does it take JKDefrag to complete?
     
  22. nobscot6

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    It takes a little longer than most as it's much more thorough!! Also, by default, it defrags ALL partitions on your pc.......

    But it def has it's advantages>> Freeware>> Drop on Desktop & Run, No Installation>> 32 & 64Bit version>> Command Line 4 advanced users>> etc.

    ann