Vista Shortcomings

lol i no. hopefully ther wont be a time wen i absolutely have to use the TM to shut down. im getting my new laptop either monday or tuesday hopefully and i'll hav my first very own version of vista. ive used it before on my bro's and sis's computers but never fully.

 

I'm sorry, but on Vista if you can access TM, you can access CTRL ALT DEL.
Are you unfamiliar with Vista. You must be, if you have no idea what that screen shows.

And LOL @ your "what if" situations. Yeah, my power button is going to malfunction. Please oh please get me some statistics on that one. And you must not know what this page is:


No forced shut down needed. Pressing the Power button on my laptop will shut down my system just as if I went to the Start Orb and shut it down...

 

wen i first read the title of the thread, i thought it wud be usefull as i don't hav vista yet and it wud be gud if i read up on the vista's flaws. just had one question:

are there any OTHER shortcomings of vista besides the TM Shutdown/restart option thing?

im a big user of the option and now that i know that vista dusnt hav it...i admit im a bit pissed...but who cares?! microsoft decided not to put that option there so what?? how about we start reporting on other problems that vista has...

thanks.

(By we i mean u guys cuz i dun hav vista yet lol.... )

 

Nobody said that your power button Will fail. It is better to have a condom and not need one, than to need a condom and not have one.

 

By saying you were a big user of the option...you mean that you used TM to shut down or restart? It is the same thing in Vista, just press CTRL ALT DEL as you would do in XP and you can shut it down or restart or w/e.

 

Apparently you like to contradict yourself also.

 

Not at all. I agree it doesn't hurt to be there, but it makes no difference, you can access those by pressing the exact same buttons. -_-

 

Yes it does make a difference because if you already have task manager running in the background, thats one less program that you have to open up.

 

LOL. Yeah I just happen to have TM running in the bg. Rofl. And btw, CTRL ALT DEL doesn't open up a new program. O_O

 

It has happened to me a few times.

Note -- on Vista systems I immediately change everything to Classic Windows style, which I find much quicker and more functional.

 

By the way, I had to return a HP laptop twice because it froze when playing DVD's. The power button did not work to restart the computer or shut it down. It was a pure system freeze. I had to take the battery out.

I had two crashes playing Call of Duty on my Gateway 7811 too, where I had to take out the battery to get the system unfrozen.

Both were Vista machines, so Vista can indeed crash.

 

I was being sarcastic about Vista machines not crashing, I had to do a full sytem restore for a friend's Vista Laptop because it kept crsahing.

 

Do you know why it crashed, or are you assuming it was Vista?

 

Good question; to my (very limited) knowledge, most crashes are caused by bad/corrupt drivers, not something inherent in the OS itself.

 

Well since this thread has ended without any assassination attempts (at least none that I know of) , I would think that the following link is a good humorous way to put it to rest. Warning :Strong Language. (thanks to fonduekid for originally providing it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExeyrNZwzwQ

 

My two main complaints with Vista is the 1) lack of "Up" folder button.. Breadcrumbs is fine, but doesn't allow to go up to the Desktop. And 2) total size of all files is not shown in the status bar when nothing is selected.

After using 2000/XP for almost a decade, little things like that become 2nd nature. Think I've adapted to everything else after much tweaking, but those two little things bug the hell outta me! =)

 

Use alt-uparrow for this functionality. (I know... no mouse equivalent.)

 

To be honest, the thread is misleading... this is not a Vista problem.

This is a problem "between seat and keyboard".

The "issue" brought up here is in troubleshooting only and isn't even remotely a problem for anyone who actually should be troubleshooting anything.

 

Where was the satire?

 

The only real "shortcoming" I found in Vista really is the horribly broken default folder views. It would reliably forget settings for certain folders on a regular basis, most frequently Control Panel. Every boot it seemed to open CP different. There was a fix for this posted a long time ago which appears to work fine, but it's odd that even post-SP1 it's still there.

One major "what the heck MS?" thing that I have mentioned a lot is Media Center. The first time it's run, it spawns off several services and "run at login" tasks (such as an FM radio service huh), without any notification or any easy way to stop them. This influenced the OS purchase for my gaming rig, I ended up going with Vista Business x64 on it simply to avoid getting Media Center.

 

Ok, you guys are 100% right and I am 100% wrong, Ive said all I can possibly say about why I am annoyed about the removal of restart/shutdown functions from Vista Task Manager, some people found it usefull and some did't care. I wont be baited, and if you did't think the Hitler video was funny, well, you take yourself too seriously.

 

You're right. MS and every other company in the world should never change anything and just make things the same forever, that way we'll all be happier.

Why don't you try putting this discussion to use somewhere it may actually have an effect other than a b1ch fest, like on an MS dev group or something? Maybe your suggestion would be taken seriously and integrated into an update or future version of Windows? Or maybe they'll ignore you? But you could try instead of just whining.

 

Actually ,I was hoping that by posting here, somebody might actually take notice, but instead all I seem to do is attract magical computer geeks that use supernatural powers to evaluate how many times XP task manager was used to shut down laptops. And I have just as much right to vent my piont of view in these forums as anyblody else without you or anybody else being judgmental. And we thank you for your support.

 

You have every right to vent, I am not contesting that, I was just suggesting being more productive that's all. And who might take notice by posting here? I mean it's not like there's a shortage of Vista whiners, complaining about anything and everything in every forum ever conceived.

I understand your frustration, I have my own, but you seem pretty upset about it so channel your energy in a positive direction. Maybe you'll get what you want? I doubt that will happen by just posting here.

 

I am still wondering why he didn't simply ask how to do it...

They removed an interface that was extraneous.

You can indeed restart from the Task Manager... and its faster and allows more control (including aborting).

and it isn't even a "vista" feature...

/sigh

 

Well its not on any Vista Task Manager that I have seen. It was not on a Vista 64 Asus model that was on display at (dare I even utter the words )"Best Buy "

 

LOL! Are you for real? You'll find all these "missing" features by simply pressing ctrl+alt+del. Haven fun!

 

Fulltilt, technically, in WinXP you would hit CTRL+ALT+DEL, click a drop down menu, and then choose Shutdown/Sleep/etc, etc...right?

In Vista, you do the same thing; CTRL+ALT+DEL, click the drop down ( or pop up? ) located in the bottom right hand side of your screen, and choose an option from there.

Am I missing something?

 

Read the thread from the beginning.

 

Read the thread from the beginning.

 

I read the first two pages seeing as I dont feel like reading the other 50 posts. Your basic arguement ( including your opening ) is that you like XP Task Manager because you can shutdown, hibernate, sleep, etc, etc, directly through task manager.

Are you serious......

If there is more to your arguement please share with me because I refuse to read the other 5 pages.

 

^ Yeah; to be honest, that really is nothing more than a trivial "shortcoming" of any operating system. Is it worth 9 pages to criticize Vista? Sure. Is it worth 9 pages to complain about the lack of power options in Task Manager; no. This is a waste of time.

 

Actually I stopped 3 pages ago with the Hitler video, you guys are draggin it out. And if you dont have the patience to read the entire thread, well I dont have the patience to repeat myself. There were some other people who stated in this thread that they used the shutdown function in XP Task Manager, giving legitamate reasons for why this function was valuable to them. If anybody feels such should not be the case, well lets just agree to disagree.

 

I'm just bored at work, plus it is hard to consider these threads as a serious debate. It does pass the time.