Vista disk defragmentation question

back in XP, it was possible to view the fragmentation of the disk, so that you can see where the data was scattered with different color bars. is this no longer available with vista ? i use the command prompt and it gives detailed data, but under the graphical interface, i cannot see how the disk is structured anymore.

any1 know if there's another command in vista that i can launch that will show me this ?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3580039&postcount=49

I remember Apparently you could run the command with the option "-v" for viewing the defrag process... check it or do a google search..

Or else , use JkDefrag... you can see what you want

http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/index.html

 

for some strange reason in x64, it never looks like it finishes. i close out the defrag window, open another prompt and do a -a to analyze, and it looks like the defrag completed (0% or 1%).

ive got 600GB with only 47 used up.

 

Color bars are not built into Vista's defrag program which is pretty lame IMO. If you enter in the command prompt defrag c: -w -v. You'll instruct disk defrag to do a full optimization regardless of file size and it will give you a detailed report.

I run defrag this way and the results for me is a 0% fragmented disk. I verified it with O&O Defrag and the analysis verified the data was in fact packed tightly.

p.s. You'll need to run the command prompt as an admin.

 

i already do this. maybe the visual feature has been moved to admin tasks ?

 

Don't use Vista's built in defragmenter. JKDefrag is a MUCH better, free alternative.

 

how so ? some examples pls ?

 

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Vista's defragmenter doesn't optimize; JKDefrag's does. +10 for JKDefrag.

 

i went to the web site to have a look. not exactly sure of how this JK Defrag is so much better than windows' built in defrag tool...

i also use acronis disk director 10 and true image 11, which have tools in there to clean the drive pretty good (including deleting the garbage left behind after files are deleted)...

what's the best feature on JK's program that makes it so 'good' ?

 

The program itself.

Why not just try it out....

 

because i'm picky on what i put on my hdd....
as it is i don't see any issues with what i'm using, so i'll keep it at that i guess. besides it doesn't look like this app has what i'm looking for. i mentioned graphic interface as in i can see the fragmentation of the disk spread across it's surface (like the defrag tool in xp), this JK program doesn't do that.

 

The previous guy already gave you a really good reason: JKDefrag optimizes, the built-in Vista Defragmenter does not. That's a huge difference. I don't know what you mean by JKDefrag not having a graphic interface, the interface it provides is VERY precise and accurate. Also, JKDefrag is a stand-alone program, there's no installer so if you really hate it you could just delete and be done with it.

This is the website: http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

 

You don't even have to have it on your hard drive, you can launch it from a flash drive or CD.

 

+1 all the way. I also use it and find that it's great.

 

how do you run CMD as admin?

 

start > programs > accessories > command prompt > right click > run as administrator

its the same as normal command prompt window, but with admin permissions Cheers.

 

Or Start Menu > Type CMD in search > The Program List will go blank and CMD will appear > Right-click on it, then select run as admin.

Running CMD as admin, just redirects Drive/Users/xxxx to Drive/Windows/System32....

 

Okay, I am going to explain Vista defrag is good enough.

First, it is optimized for shadow copy on the OS. Second, Vista defrag doesn't try to make the disk volume 100% fragment free because the OS needs to access the file on the hard drive. If you rearrange the file into one bg block, which is a fragment free, you will end up have more fragmentation. Third, Vista defrag algorithm is totally different from XP algorithm. Vista doesn’t care the file block bigger than 64MB because it doesn’t give a performance gain for the disk I/O. Vista defrag also run at low CPU and disk I/O usage, so it doesn’t affect overall performance of the OS plus it is seem less to the user. It also runs on schedule regardless of user privilege. Remember that you have to be admin to run disk defrag on XP?

Many people claim that other disk defragment software is better, but I have yet to see the solid evident or prove.

 

Or Windows key > Type cmd > Press ctrl-shift-Enter

Besides changing the starting directory, it also gives you privilege to mess with more things.

 

It doesn't, don't believe all the hypes about 3rd party defragmenter, they just "try" to make you believe it's better, but it's not.

Exactly.

 

It doesn't, don't believe all the hypes about 3rd party defragmenter, they just "try" to make you believe it's better, but it's not.

You hit the nail on the head!!

 

^^ You mean you guys (Merlin & Stwie) don't believe Andy & Arkit3kt's verdict on JKDefrag!!!

G!

 

Well, if I remember right, JkDefrag runs / follows / works in the *same way* as Vista Builtin Defrag, but just faster than that (don't ask me how / what makes JkDefrag runs faster, since I really didn't understand the technicalities behind this faster defrag speed. May be some one else can comment on that more!). I use JkDefrag too, but I did try the Vista Defrag as well.. It was of course slower than JkDefrag, but overall performance wise, I felt the system was behaving / responding in the same way, fast n quick!!! So.......