Vista makes "Time" top ten biggest tech failure list.

Hmm. Only 24% global usage for Vista?

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1898610_1898625_1898627,00.html

 

Hmm... 9 years adoption vs 3 years adoption. If the relationship is linear, XP should triple the global ussage of Vista.

Just my 2c

 

lol it's well deserved.

 

at least it WON something...l lol

 

The launch was a failure, but the OS really isn't.

I wish these dingbats writing the news stories understand that. Or maybe they need to go work as a software programmer to understand how difficult even writing an OS can be.

 

The artice doesn't cover all the variables.

I keep thinking part of this includes the vast number of people simply don't upgrade the OS on their existing system.

I have a home computer that's got XP installed and will be there till I get a new computer.

I use the latest OS whenever I build/buy a new copmuter.

 

The Time magazine article is a 'fail' in and of itself......

 

IMO, if the initial release of Vista had everything that was in sp1, it would have received a much warmer welcome.

 

I don't think it was as big a failure as all that, even though I'm not all that impressed with it.

 

well thats true they criticize it without them knowing the struggle and the sweat that was put into it. overall i think vista is really nice and eye appealing it all depends everyone has a different perspective and i cant change that.. however they only point the bad parts of the OS not the good one which are several to point out as a matter a fact

 

Speaking for myself, I'm part of the "24%", and prefer Vista.

I do prefer the search in XP over Vista though.

 

You really think how much effort went into it should play a part in evailuating it?

When my grandson (5yo) participates in sports, they don't keep score and "everybody" is a winner. Hmmm.

Sorry for the double post.

 

Apparently, it is much less visible to write a failure of an article for Time than it is to write an operating system. Probably says something about the reader base for each.

 

true but they try to acknowledge them in a way thats not easily noticeable to the other players and obviously the coach knows who is the star and who is not

 

Windows 7 will probably have a better launch. As for the OS itself, not bad..

 

Look at what else they list... Gateway (as a company), Youtube?
They don't know what they're talking about.

 

well what u expect from people that dont know how to criticize correctly they should point to them selves for being so dam ignorant... probably paid by apple lol

 

Windows 7 might make "windows" the Window Of computing.

 

"Time" should be listed as the #1 biggest failure on the top ten failures of last 50 years. It's gone from a respected magazine to a liberal rag. This latest pick shows just how low they've gotten.

It's hard to take any magazine seriously when they can't even spell check their articles or QA their ads before printing.

 

Yeah, I take all this kind of stuff with a grain of salt.

 

Yeah, I think the list has a few poor examples. Vista has a good market share, and it runs well on the right hardware. It did have a very clear marketing failure and confusion about requirements and features. But it's not a Millennium Edition, which failed in just about every sense.

Gateway is a fair story, although the name still had value, or Acer would never have touched it. I had only had bad experiences with Gateway machines, so I hope this will turn out to be good for the company (I've actually seriously looked at some of the Gateway FX series computers, which I would never have done before Acer).

YouTube is a technology success that turned out to be a poor investment. That seems to happen far too often with hot internet trends...people dumping in money before they think through how to make a return. But it does what it was designed to, and does it very well.

I also liked this:

Without once mentioning that building Blu-ray into the PS3 might have given Sony a huge base of users to sell discs to.

 

They at least mentioned the real reason HD-DVD died, which was Wal-Mart playing their "we're in control" game with manufacturers.

 

It's a shame; Vista really is a pretty decent OS, and if the marketing had gone well, more people would acknowledge this.

 

Yeah,
Wal-Mart doesn't mind exercising their extreme leverage.

 

microsoft got two products on that list: vista and zune. lol.
somehow, aol is not on the list?

 

aol was a brake trough for internet past time it all falls in the category as semi successful , it came to be a beta for what was to come in the future of internet browsing......speed,effectiveness,and accuracy

 

time warner is talking about spinning off aol unit. TW already got rid of their cable division(twc).

 

People who don't know crap about technology should not be allowed to have a strong opinion about it. >_>
I am very very very tired of pretty boys telling geeks what they are doing right and wrong.

 

Wanna read about Time failing on technology?
Read here.

 

The mission of journalists is to provide the public with good, unbiased, correct information - and to that, not too heavu, just opinions.

So many "tech" sections labeling Vista as bad give a bad name to all of journalism. Same thing with calling the iPhone the best smartphone on the market... just shows a complete lack of knowledge in the area. There is scientific proof (I have a paper archived someplace) that the less someone knows about a topic the more they think they know. As they learn more they see how much they're missing.
Most "tech" sections are a texbook example of this. I'm no pro but this "journalism" makes me wanna barf as I could do much better.

 

I use Vista and XP both. Not super-impressed with Vista on the whole, but it has its strengths and weaknesses. :GEEK:

 

On a powerful computer, I would much much rather run Vista.
Lower end hardware still fairs better with XP, but that's to be expected.

 

Well said.

It's Time though. Not exactly the most credible news source for tech. I'm surprised they didn't somehow compare every item to the iPhone.

 

Lol its the stupid media who gave vista this horrible reputation.. and the idiot manufactors putting it on their ****ty pc's. That mixed with ignorant mainstream PC users who all are like "HURR DURR XP IS BETTER DERP" resulted in Vista being bad.. which it isnt.. i really prefer it over XP but thats probably because im not a retard and i can afford a decent pc.

 

Wow. I want some of whatever you are taking.

 

He said that's what their mission is. He later says in the post just how terribly they have failed this mission, and how it makes him sick.

 

Point well taken. However, I am always a little hesitant to embrace that reasoning because of two things. First, I want to see functionality increase that justifies the accelerated demand for hardware resources. I mean, sure, no one's griping about XP because it won't run on their antiquated machine (or if they are, they're losers). But it's because they can do much more with XP than with MS DOS.

I think the dichotomy with Vista is that, with XP having 9 years of updates and programs written for it and knowledge base and so forth, Vista may not feel like much of an expansion of potential and functionality, whereas it is apparent that newer machines are required to run it. And, while I think I've fairly evaluated Vista and have used it intensively for well over a year, I do not see a whole lot to recommend it over XP. Nevertheless, I do think Windows architecture does need to move on, and Vista and Windows 7 are usable and have truly improved design features.

One other thing: Linux. Enough said.

 

"The securities features were not much better than the previous versions of Windows based on most reviews of the software."

This sentence is laughable really, shows how much the creator of this lame list knows about Vista.

 

I for one can't wait to have Vista (and eventually Windows 7) on my XT2 Tablet.

 

Just moved to vista recently but I was fine with XP, didn't have any reason to upgrade. That IMO was was the biggest failure with vista. No must have reason to upgrade. Why would someone want to move away from something they had finally figured out how to bend to their will just to have to start the whole process over again for something that offers no tangible gain? Because we post here we might start talking about whats under the hood but most people don't care, they just want to get their email and surf with the least possible hassle. I know very few people that didn't look at vista as anything other than a new hassle to deal with in order to get to where they want to go. It probably shouldn't be on a "ever" list but certainly it was not a success.

 

Yes, that is quite what a lot of people felt. It's because MS let XP go way too long, and so of course pushing things onward to the next OS is going to be choppy.

 

I think most average users tend not to upgrade their current systems. IMO most of the Vista sales are in new systems or with more advanced users that embrace new OS's.

At the Best Buy type stores I always see many more copies of the latest game on the shelves than there are copies of Windows.

 

The vast majority of OS upgrades are exactly that, new system sales. OS upgrades are usually too much of a pain to warrant an install by anybody except an enthusiast.

 

Yep, but fortunately for M$, people do buy new systems, and that's the most effective method to move away from XP.

 

Resistance is futile

 

If you were Time Warner, would you badmouth one of your own subsidiaries?

 

_Vista wasn't a failure so much as too far ahead of its time - it was released too early, before it was properly finished. Win7 is what _Vista would have been had it not been rushed out the door in order to meet an artificial release schedule.

 

With such a mentality though? Wouldn't have been much greater resistance to move to an entirely new platform like Mac OSX? How is it that the market share rose then?

 

Since the last two Service Packs, Vista has come a long way. I'm at the point where i'm running it now on all of my laptops ATM. The speed in launching programs has jump exponentially. Now it's not to say all is perfect because still on low end hardware it struggles but it's now usable. Certain games still run better in XP than Vista but i'm running dual boot and will boot into XP for that purpose.

Looking forward to W7.

 

The Zune should not be on that list. It is a great device. It not outselling the iPod is trivial; I don't know of an MP3 player that did. Unless they lost a huge amount of money on the Zune, I wouldn't consider it a failure. I greatly prefer my Zune over any iPod I have used or owned (I have an iPod 30GB hooked up to my car stereo) and will continue to put Zune at the top of my list when it comes to MP3 players. Some people want the Apple image and others look for certain features. You can't look down on Microsoft because they couldn't manipulate people like Apple does (I don't mean that in a nefarious manner).

Oh, and Vista. I like Vista. I cringe when I think about returning to Windows XP for some reason. I really like the looks of Vista (gee, that's shallow. You would think that I would prefer iPods over Zunes with that attitude. ) and have grown used to how much of it is set up. It is undeserving of the bulk of its criticism, in my opinion.