Vista users will NOT cry:Windows 7 extention of Vista

Source: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/73443,microsoft-windows-7-two-years-away.aspx

“It’s unlikely Microsoft will be building something from the ground up,” he said. “That’s why it is very probable the new version is an extension of Vista. I don’t think it would make sense three years later to develop a new operating system with a different code base.”

 

Yay, another Vista.
Vista ME, or SE ?

 

So long as it's a free upgrade for vista users, I am fine.

 

"Windows ME SE - Now with a more attractive BSOD"

 

Yay for more speculation that won't come true!!!

 

I am still trying to figure out why anyone would cry over more selection.

 

People are crying because they just purchased Vista and now a new OS is coming out in a few years and now they would have to/want to buy the new OS.

 

One has to translate any Microsoft announcement to Micronese.

"We will release our new operating system within the next 12-18 month time frame."

Translation: We will be developing our new operating system within the next 12-18 months and after undergoing testing for between 12-18 months, we will release the first Beta Candidate with the final version to follow within a solid 12 month time frame.

Microsoft has NEVER released any operating system according to their announced time frame. They are the "Paul Masson" of software--they will not release anything before it is time!

 

This is how the desktop in Windows 7 will look like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:7desktop.png

 

The GUI is the last thing they work on. Of course it's gonna look like Vista.

To put it into perspective, this is how the first build of Vista looked...

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/longhorn_alpha.asp

 

Ah, yes. They used XP's Luna for it. Good point.

 

I thought Windows 7 had started development years ago, maybe around same time as Vista or when it was closed to being finished?

 

Actually XP users are the ones ending up crying since their OS will be abandoned by MS when Win7 comes. Win7 and Vista will co-exist without a hitch. I like XP but it's getting kinda old.

 

They started Blackcomb in like 2000-01. Was supposed to be released in 02-03. Dunno what happened and they started Longhorn in 2003

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y

This is quite a shock. (You may want to mute the music)

 

It's complicated.

"Blackcomb" was started in 00, progressed slightly, and delayed. "Longhorn" was then started in 01 with a release date in 03 as a midpoint and small upgrade between XP and Blackcomb. Longhorn then started taking more and more of the features in Blackcomb until it was no longer a small upgrade. Longhorn was then delayed in 04 and pretty much started from scratch due to security issues. Longhorn was released in 07 as Vista.

Many of the features of "Blackcomb" were put into Vista, so development of Blackcomb continued, and was renamed "Vienna". It was renamed once again as "Windows 7" set for a 2010 release.

 

I liked the idea of Vista being built on XP originally.

 

I don't think that was ever a thought. Vista is complete new code from XP.

 

It was originally built on XP code, but due to security concerns it was stripped down and rebuilt from scratch. It happened shortly after PDC 2003.

 

Oh. Really? Didn't know that. I thought they intended for it to be built from scratch.

 

Vista was being built on XP as an improvement, until the aforementioned security issues in which that was scrapped and Vista was built on top of Windows Server 2003.

 

It was.... and was...

 

Built from scratch would have taken much more time, and MS decided to re-do the code so that it would actually come out in a timely manner. And look what that got us...<s>Vista</s> ME2. At least that is how it has been for me.

 

Greg, I'm curious to know what problems you have with Vista.

 

Here. (&(^)^&&

 

When I first bought this laptop Vista was months away. I didn't cry then and I'm not crying now.

 

i know exactly how you feel greg....

"that's all i got to say about that"

 

As far as I've seen, Windows 7 looks exactly like Vista, but is that because it is just going to an extension of sorts of Vista, or because the GUI is the last thing they work on?

 

I already touched on that on the previous page.

 

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH oh noes! (!*@# microsoft! i just got vista a few months ago!

yeah right xD whats wrong with vista now? why upgrade to windows 7 so soon? its probably gona be just as incompatible, virus ridden as vista was a year ago :X

 

If your Vista is virus-ridden, you may wanna lay off the Pron sites.

 

Yeah, I prefer to wait and let hardware catch up anyway. I didn't get an XP computer until 2004, and with 3.2 P4 with HT, 1GB of ram, 128mb nvdia graphics, 200GB HD, it screamed, and didn't cost that much.

Now I just bought 2 laptops with Vista, and the main one I use for a desktop replacement and it's way faster than I need. Once I max the ram out, I feel comfortable using this until 2010, maybe longer if Win7 works on it.

 

QFT

and LMAO!

 

So those people who purchased XP 1 year before Vista shipped or after it did are crying?

Somehow I doubt it.
(although it would explain some of the mindless fanatacism from some of the XP fanboys)

XP is still viable long after Vista's release just as every Microsoft OS before it.


If you tried Vista and prefer XP, you continue to use XP... no problem.

If you prefer Vista you use it.

It will be the same with the new release.


The people stating "I tried it and it didn't work for me and my system" are fine. Thjere is nothing wrong with XP and nothign wrong with choosing it because you like it better. Just do the reading and protect yourself please as XP is the best and easiest to convert zombie in the world.

The people stating Vista sucks (for everyone) are just telling everyone they need some more experience with computers.

I just switched the IT manager and the entire IT department here... the manager was the biggest proponent of XP I have ever met. He is now a complete convert to Vista for new systems. (Like me he still sees the wisdom of using XP for lesser systems and people who are not technically-capable enough to make the switch.)

Oh and as for Vista compatibilites... we have network systems that are OVER 10 years old and enough proprietary code to make any IT professional cry.
I have gotten almost everything under the sun to work with Vista. (with some caveats)
If I can make this stuff work, it is possible for almost anything to work.
(granted I am not your typical user)

 

Hey kernalPanic, Im totally agree with u, im working in a computer company too. just want to shaire with u that most IT manger doesn't know sh!t. they only have the title "manager" but they are properlly had been work in the company for a long time and got push up to a position which they ar not good in. sure they do have "some" basic computer skills but they do not have the professional.

 

Our manager worked in my job before me so in my special case this is not true. He has his quirks but he is most definitely knowledgeable. (you are correct in many cases, however)

He just didn't give Vista much of a chance until I showed him the ropes.
He just couldn't keep ripping when I was walking in with my laptop and plopping it on his desk and dispelling every myth he was led to believe.

 

No new OS will be coming out "in a few years", or, "yes, a new os will come out in a few years", because this is the computer world and there's ALWAYS something out on the horizon, but it's NEVER as close as you hope or they would like to believe.

Neither of you have seen ANYTHING of what Windows 7 will look like, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED YET. EVERY image that you see online claiming to be Windows 7 is a FAKE. Any web site that you read that tells you otherwise is LYING to you and you should stop reading it. Period.

Since I'm sort of on a rant here, don't ever, EVER say that stupid F-ing expression "oh noes". It is the lamest, stupidest, and dumbest thing ever invented by lameo geeks who are trying to be cute.

 

OMG M$ suxorz!!! mov 2 linux!!!

Ok, that was a joke. I couldn't resist.

Seriously though, does this matter all that much? Use Vista until Windows 7 is a smooth upgrade, or whatever floats your boat.

 

The pictures aren't fake. They're build versions so they look like Vista, but they're real screenshots of what Microsoft is working on.

 

Windows 7 is only in planning stages, that means that nothing of it exists yet. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...te-rumor-whoring-no-its-not-official.html?rel Maybe some developer wrote "windows 7" on their background or something, but there's nothing real.

However, by one measure you can say that it will look like Vista, and it's the fact that all versions of Windows since 95 all look the same. Unless they stick an Apple-style dock on it or something, who really cares if the start menu is blue or green, or whatever?

 

lol i was trying to sound as lame and as ignorant as i possibly could! all a joke and what a noob would probably say

LOL.there are some morons i know who just think that vista comes packed with viruses or something...ignorance is bliss here in the philippines sad to say...and wil badmouth stuff they have no idea about

anyways to get my pron on i use protection!

 

Where did I put that gong...

Those images aren't fake. It's an official build...a really early one, but since the GUI gets designed last its gonna look like Vista. Don't believe everything on these blogs.

Bone up on it here:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/win7_6519.asp

Paul Thurrot actually works with MS.

 

Yup, it's a real build although like you can see, it's still a Vista-based kernel (Windows 6.1 it says, Win7 will be Windows 7.0)

 

Windows Server 2003 was written on top of Windows XP which was written on top of Windows 2000...

There hasn't yet been a complete re-write of the NT OS since Windows 2000!

It was planned for Vista, but due to time constraints and an inability to clearly decide what features were going to stick MS backpedaled on that idea. If you remember the talks of the re-write it was supposed to be re-written from the ground up to use .NET, but only portions do now.

In other respects...
Will be interesting to see what Windows 7 shapes up to be like. Vista is a solid OS, but shows Microsoft needs to innovate in other areas to make the OS more compelling.

Unless they hatch out some drastically new way of doing something I'm not sure I'll see Windows 7 as a worthy upgrade, but I'm not making up my mind until I have final bits to play with in my hands.

But for the love of god...

Stop referring to Windows Vista as Windows ME 2! Doing so shows a complete lack of knowledge of the computer industry. Windows ME failed for a lot of reasons, but the main one was instability. It was the most unstable MS OS ever released. Mainly due to the aged DOS kernel that it employed.

Vista might not have features you want or consider to be big players or it might cost more than you think it should or the like, but it is not highly unstable or low quality. It does the same thing every single MS OS in history has done. It has pushed hardware requirements up a bit and it has added some interesting new features.

As I said, it is NOT an unstable rolling minefield...

But, as mentioned in this thread, there is no requirement to change from any OS that works for you; be it Mac OS, Ubuntu, SUSE, Windows, FreeBSD, or countless others. Versions are also irrelevant. All that matters is that you can get your work done everyday.

 

I agree on the ME thing. The two are simply not comparable in a technical sense. ME really was unusable on pretty much all systems because the underlying architecture simply could not support the services. Vista DOES work and it works pretty well on most systems, and those that it doesn't work on is a result of drivers, not a problem with how it was designed.

The only possible comparison could be if you look at it solely from the market-share standpoint. Even though I don't see it as THAT bad, many people think that Vista has flopped in the market, just like ME did.

 

OH NOES

Calm down