Vista's so bad that no one even pirates it?

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/10/vista-bad-steals

It's tongue in cheek (I don't even use Vista, so I have no basis for comparison other than the tech specs that I've read)... I'd guarantee you that people have pirated Vista. It's just interesting that the "pros" are only doing it with XP and Office...

 

It is much harder to pirate Vista.

 

That tells it all

 

XP is just as likely, if not more likely to be stolen than Vista due to the fact that the product lifetime is coming to an end, not that Vista is "bad" as the article claims. I'm not surprised that many people insisting on XP are resorting to pirating it.

 

That's why we have to be skeptical with OEM's copies. Some may look almost as an original. But in the original there is as much anitpirate stuff as in the surface making it almost impossible to duplicate the original.

 

My Sweet innocent friends......let me tell u that some of my Pen friends in India have been using Illegal copies since March 2007.

They use only Vista Ultimate as its the coolest.

ANY software on the planet can be cracked...except One.

STEAM... it just cannot be cracked because of its architecture...some hackers have stolen accounts of the users but thats as far as they get.

 

I want names, addresses, work places,.........

 

LOL, just because they were stealing XP doesn't mean that vista isn't stolen too.

 

Vista is not that old to get pirated a lot.

 

Yeah, there will always be dishonest people on the planet, that's why we who are honest have to pay 10 times more for products.

 

Vista gets pirated plenty. I don't know where they're coming from with this. I'm always sketchy of an article with misspelled words anyway.

 

Hi.

An interesting article

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-9928998-56.html

Microsoft's piracy problem could grow
Posted by Ina Fried 109 comments

When it comes to software piracy, Microsoft may just be aiding the enemy.

Microsoft has been counting on gains against unlicensed software to boost revenue from the Windows unit, which accounts for a huge chunk of overall profits and sales. However, one of the company's own decisions could make its antipiracy battle more difficult.

With Windows Vista, Microsoft took an extremely tough stand on piracy. Computers that were not properly activated within a short period of time went into a virtually unusable state known as "reduced functionality mode."

In the newly released Service Pack 1, however, Microsoft is softening its stance somewhat. The reduced functionality mode is gone, and in its place, a series of warnings and visual indications that a computer is not running a genuine copy of Windows.

I would argue, though, that having an unusable copy of Windows is a far greater deterrent than having one that simply labels its user a pirate. Microsoft has maintained that the new approach will be just as effective and is more palatable to customers and partners. Color me skeptical.

But, will the changes automatically lead to an uptick in overall piracy rates? That's a more complicated question.

On its face, it would seem the answer would be a clear "yes."

However, there are a couple of other factors to keep in mind. First, Windows XP is pirated far more than Vista (at least 2 to 1, according to Microsoft). Also, Microsoft did close several notable hacks to its Vista protection scheme with SP1. So while the price for piracy is arguably lower, Microsoft has closed a few loopholes that let pirates bypass the security features altogether.

Time will tell whether Microsoft's technical changes will have an impact on the broader piracy issue. Enforcement is also key, with Microsoft CFO Chris Liddell noting that a couple of legal actions can make a big difference in any given quarter, suggesting true gains (or losses) from piracy require looking at a longer time horizon.

What is clear is that piracy rates remain a critical issue for Microsoft, which needs to continue growing its Windows revenue and profits to help fund its advertising battle against Google.

Microsoft had seemed to be making major headway against piracy, surprising analysts and itself in the September quarter by gaining 5 percentage points of growth through piracy reductions. Last quarter, though, Microsoft actually saw piracy rates head upward, reversing what had been a particularly positive trend for the company.

Microsoft now expects its gains for the year to be just a percentage point or two, though it believes it can continue to see improvements next year as well.

"Piracy is a tough battle and an area where we will need to continue investing," said Colleen Healy, Microsoft's general manager of investor relations.

Regards

John.

 

Haha....vista not pirated....in my old acer there aint a single software or game that is genuine..:laugh:
[Hope i dont get banned for this]

 

Are they all dishonest? Are software prices fair?

 

Pirates chase treasure. Be it modern day software pirates or the ones that sailed the seven seas many years ago.

If your product or "cargo" is a target for pirates, it is worth something to them.

If they don't bother with it they obviously see it as not worth their time and trouble.

Maybe Vista falls into this latter category?

 

I liked the title of the thread 'Vista's so bad'...

maybe all the hardwork by pirates was a waste after all?










P.S: I am joking

 

I have been able to catch many potential pirates of Vista because there was an issues with x86 vs x64.

When people were giving hints as to why one thing worked and another didnt it was a clear case of a pirated copy.

Trust me there are many pirated copies of Vista, I still dont know if they have the x86 issue solved to this day based on intel chipsets or something like that.

If you ever go into somebodies system properties on there home built PC and see the Dell logo there.... lol yeah thats pirated.

 

Don't include me in your group, I get most of my programs for free...
Education discounts and MSDNAA FTW!!!

 

its very easy believe me, not that i would ever do it

 

Everything i use on my computer is free. ^_^

 

OMG you pirated Free Linux?!

The head ninjas are after you now.

 

No matter, they can't catch me. I am the fabled Free Pirate, i steal free stuff. Those free samples in the supermarket? I stole them. Those free mints you get in the hotel? I stole them. The homemade cookies you left out for the cat? I nomed those too. ^o^

 

Well, I don't know the real price model for software, but I can tell you this, there some carpenters making more than engineers, is that fair?

There is a lot of time and resources spent into making a software, plus the fact that software is not a comodity, they don't sell one every 5 minutes, plus software must improve and bring new features all the time, aples and carrots are always the same. And finally the fact they have to equate the losses because piracy, is not their fault the pirates are to be blamed for.

 

Some carpenters are making more money than engineers? Really?

 

No i think the reason people pirate is because things are so expensive not the other way around.

 

Well, the reason for Vista not being pirated that much is clear. Many ppl are scared of it, because they read threads like "Vista is BAAAAAD!" and stick to their pirated XPs...

I've got to admit, XP Pro on my previous laptop was a pirated version (don't shoot me!), but just because the original licensed XP Home was crashing completely every week for no reason resulting in a complete system reinstallation. I felt too upset with it to pay the difference

 

I really enjoyed this thread
I laughed - i really did.

 

Share it with us so we can also laugh.

 

This article mentions nothing of the home user/single copy pirates only "reseller" pirates.

 

Guys,

You can discuss the issue of piracy but do not mention specific methods of pirating software(that is against the forum rules)...some posts were deleted.

Thanks.
-Kdawgca
NBR Mod

 

esp now that sp1 and other vista updates have made the most popular/easiest cracks history

 

I found it funny how people wont pirate the "latest and greatest" but "ol reliable". The fact that the public opinion of Vista is so low not to steal it, does not say much about Vista's PR. I find it hilarious. I would have expected the opposite. And MS making Vista more piratable with the Service pack 1 update, I really wonder...

 

Mostly the people who pirated were using old computers, and realized their computerss couldn't handle vista so they went back to XP. And now my guess to why xp is being pirated is because they are going to stop selling it, and pirates my be scared they aren't going to be able to pirate it either.

 

LOL. Like a ninja in the night.

 

I thought Ninja invented the night?

 

Hi.

It`s difficult to find a laptop that has anything other than vista installed to buy.

Regards

John.

 

Not true. I tried the latest cracks after the current flood of Vista updates and they work. Vista is very easy to circumvent.

I have 5 legit copies of Vista and only 2 of my computers are on Vista, everything else is on XP.

 

Yeah, That's how I ended up with my Vista Installation. Gateway would have sent me a Windows XP Pro disk full for another 200 dollars. It was not worth it in my opinion. I really wanted the option to choose or exchange.

 

Sadly enough, everything nowadays is pirated which is why we're stuck with intrusive anti-piracy measures (DRM, etc). I don't exactly see how a low piracy rate of Vista makes it a bad OS. Maybe it's harder to crack. Maybe not. Either way, I have had a good experience with Vista and would not want to go back to XP. I'm not trying to make this a Vista vs. XP thread, I'm just saying that low piracy rate for Vista does not make me think that its' a bad OS.

 

thats why i said...

Resistance is Futile!

 

Word-of-mouth is arguably the most effective PR and, unfortunately for Vista, there are hoards of people who insist on perpetuating bad rumors and myths about the operating system. That, I believe, has more to do with the supposed lack of piracy than anything else. With that said, however, I do still believe that Vista gets pirated a lot more than this article states.

 

The article is short, the article only talked about the reseller copies which imo does not stand to proof that average individuals are not pirating Vista.

 

Piracy doesn't drive up the prices that notably at all. It's an excuse, they're just trying to demonise pirates. If anything, they get pirated because the prices are high to begin with.

 

This is a very valid point, actually.

 

Umm..Am I missing something here...this thread is about Pirating Vista!

When i created a poll yesterday that basically asks a very Legal question about trying to install Win XP from one manufacturer's OS CD to a different manufacturer's computer. The whole thread was basically wiped out and closed...What kind of BS is this....can somebody explain to me..a moderator perhaps..and tell me how this thread is not worse than the one i had up yesterday...Chaz?

Clearly u said and i quote: "Thread closed. Discussion of piracy is not allowed on this forum. Read the forum rules."

Isn't this not discussion of piracy...come on now!

 

Pirating and counter-pirating need each other to exist.

 

I swear this article/writer is either so biased or really uninformed/ignorant about pirated stuff. :laugh:

 

Well the article is from theinquirer. Not a reputable site...

 

The article is actually from PC World... I'm surprised... lol

Yep, the writer is biased AND ignorant.