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    W7 install...update problems

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by toughasnails, Dec 20, 2015.

  1. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    I gave my year old laptop to my granddaughter for Christmas and whated to do a restore to it first. So I loaded the restore disk in it and 45 minutes later it was restored to the factory setting. Then I went to M$ update to get it all updated...problem. I wanted to pick and chose which ones I wanted so then I clicked "get updates". Well it checked for updates for 24 hours and nothing ?? Well in the end I had to pick download and install them .It took 8 minutes to do it. Guess M$ does not like us chosing updates anymore. I tried it again late with other updates and the same thing happen. Update is now turned off :D

    Has this happened to anyone else ??
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Microsoft Crippling Windows Updates on Windows 7

    This was posted long back and I can still confirm this is the case, yesterday I got my step father's laptop and I wanted to only download the Intel HD Graphics driver from Windows update, only chose that and waited for more than 3 hours, nothing happened, it remained on 0%

    Simply put, Microsoft does not want anyone using Windows 7 anymore. Period.
     
  3. Falco152

    Falco152 Notebook Demon

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    Well, ....not to be hash... What did you expect? Of course, it's going to be crippled naturally.
    Be happy they still serve any updates.
    You can still retrieve W98 updates from the automatic Windows Update.

    1) They revoked and use a stricter cert requirement like a couple of years ago. Takes awhile for your Windows Update to realize that. (Windows rarely update their Windows Update Client)
    2) It's a huge waste of money to keep a back catalog of 5+ years of All Possible Updates for W7 on the faster server when most user are updated at least within the current year +/- 8 months.
    3) Your system have to compare against that almost the entire backlog once your system is out of date enough. Missing just an old enough update till trigger the long scan.
    (Funny that it scans and updates much faster if you had no updates with a clean SP1 RTM. Otherwise, it thinks you're running the original release version)

    4) Keep the .NET updates last ... they are really long updates and requires a mid restart which may trigger that long scan again. They are not selected by default unless you click on select all

    In short, if you want faster on-demand Windows Update either you host your own WSUS or use an auto patcher tools which downloads all the patches into a folder and installs them for you.
     
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    For a little positive spin as always, you can download the updates manually and install them:

    http://www.windowsupdatesdownloader.com/

    Always remember, do all the .NET Framework updates together then reboot, then do all the security updates together then reboot, then do all the normal updates while checking out the bad ones in our list of bad updates then reboot.

    This way at least, you know you have a secure system

    basically you run the program above, then download the updates list, then double click it so the updates will populate as a list in the program
     
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  5. toughasnails

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    That's what I did and then ran this
    " Remove Telemetry-Win10 Upgrade Updates Script "
     
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    Seraiel Notebook Consultant

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    Sry, but that problem has to do nothing with Microsoft not wanting us to use Windows 7. Just think, what all those firms that just upgraded to Windows 7 because they need a fully working OS with as little bugs as possible would do with Microsoft, if they did something like that.

    The cause of that problem is a bug, in which Windows 7 "tries to install a service-pack, while the requirements aren't met" . This causes the WU to hang for hours. There's a FixIt for this and regarding Windows Update, it's always best to use WSUS, because it allows downloading the updates with full speed before the install, and it has routines to install them fully automatically and also in the right order, so one doesn't has that problem of 200 updates getting downloaded and only 60 being installed properly, because the other 140 had pre-requisites that weren't there or interfere with any other update. WSUS even allows excluding updates like we do with the ones triggering that Windows 10 upgrade, and it even has options to download the C-libraries, live-essentials, office-updates or whatever one needs / wants aswell, so it's really a very good program.