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    What temp monitor to trust with Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by RainMotorsports, May 4, 2009.

  1. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    I knew some of the programs didnt read the same but now ive noticed none of them do. Speed Fan, CPUID Hardware Monitor, and EVEREST Ultimate all read different core temps. They all do read the same GPU and HDD Temps and CPUID HW and EVEREST read the same acpi/case temp though everest calls it the cpu temp. Speedfan does read a higher temperature.

    I have an ASUS G50Vt with a P7450 and Speedfan reports an idle of 44/42, CPUID HW reports an idle of 54/52 with everest following up with a slightly scary 59/57.

    I broke the bond of my thermal paste and it will be a couple of days until i can redo it proper. Temps havent really gone up, 2 degrees @ 100% load but the idle is still the same. If everest were accurate it would scare me as it would suggest running crysis I would be exceeding the 70 degree line that many cpu's down throttle or shut off at and its not so.
     
  2. MidnightSun

    MidnightSun Emodicon

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    I've always sworn by CoreTemp (link in my signature).
     
  3. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Depending on different manufacture and motherboard model or even the components in the motherboards, sometimes even "trusted" programs willl read false temperatures.
     
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    ahl395 Ahlball

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    ive always stuck with HWMonitor... :D
     
  5. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    I was hoping intels app would measure temps but it doesnt. The raw reading the apps are working from should all be the same but what theyre going against to draw a temp out of that data is a different story.

    Wish i had a surface themo to read the heatpipe and get an idea how hot its running. Wouldnt give me a cpu temp but would give me a direction to go in 40C or 50C.

    @Midnight checking this app out im gonna enable DTS in the bios and try it out.
     
  6. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    If the heat pipe doesn't give you a burning sensation, it's below 60 degrees.

    The best program I would recommend for monitoring temperature is speedfan. If the temperature doesn't come out right, go to the advanced settings and change the setting according to your laptop's hardware and it should fix the problem.
     
  7. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    EVEREST is the only one that scares me, its also the only one who seems to know how fast the fan is spinning lol. Id have to say if i could take a pick the core temp app has the nicest temps... now i have 4 temps lol.

    Bah im only really concerned due to me voiding the warranty and also needing to redo the thermal paste. With the max not exceeding 65 degrees in HW MON and generally not maxing beyond 62 with my undervolt it seems like its okay.
     
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    wackydude1234 Notebook Evangelist

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    I've always stuck to PCWizard
     
  9. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    WHat app is in the background of this screen shot? Post i found it in doesnt say and all i can see is "intel"

    [​IMG]
     
  10. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    If you had read the "read me" file on common fan control tool, you'll find options to configure the reads so it displays the correct data.

    BTW.THAT TOOL is intel thermal analysis tool
     
  11. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Based on Core Temp having the TJ Max at 85, and intel saying the P7450 is 90C max i have determined according to intel, speed fan is reporting the proper temperature.

    EDIT - I have adjusted them all to 90C yay! HW Mon you have to edit the ini file.
     
  12. CyberVisions

    CyberVisions Martian Notebook Overlord

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    Each system is different - even your dust contamination level will alter your CPU and other temps. Your best option is to use more than one program and then take the average between them.

    On another note, I'll tell you before one of the NBR Moderators does that your Forum sig doesn't meet Forum regs. You might want to think about redoing it before they tell you to, and they will eventually. They're pretty sticky about certain things, and that's one of them. Just an FYI.
     
  13. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I run my cpu at 40-50 idle and 75 degrees at high load all the time. You'll have to get the temp close or to 90 degrees before the cpu begins to throttle. 70 degrees under load is perfectly fine, but it's on the high side.
     
  14. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Cyber visions ill look into the sig but as its under 4 lines and is actually the max image size the admins set in vB as it is hosted on NBR.

    I was warned on something unrelated by a moderator i would have thought if the sig was an issue they would have taken notice.
     
  15. nacr05

    nacr05 Extreme Overclocker

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    I have been using core temp for a long time and on a dozen laptops I've owned and it works really well.
     
  16. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Coretemp should be the most accurate since its database for newer CPU's gets updated more often. Of course you need to download the latest version.

    If it shows the wrong Tjunction max for your CPU then you can just calculate the offset yourself or edit the .ini file. (You can do this for coretemp, rmclock & hwmonitor)

    The P7450 is more of an offroad OEM CPU

    His sig is fine. The forum rules are 350x125px 25kb