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    What's your Windows 7 Uptime?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Rodster, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Don't know if a thread was started. I tried a search but search is not working for me.

    Anyway what's your uptime? I'm currently sitting on over 12 days with no performance issues application issues, nothing. If it weren't for the routine Tues patches which typically require a reboot who knows how long I could go without a reboot? :)
     
  2. KCETech1

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    cripes, which machine??

    the X220 im typing on now is about 20 days ( I manually install updates )
    my Elitebook is currently at 2 days but was up to about 150 at one point
    my one rendering unit is at .... 4 or 5 months
    if you count server 08 on a render unit as the same as 7 ( very similar ) 361 days ( may be time to run updates )
     
  3. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Oops sorry :eek:

    My Dell Vostro 1500 is currently at 12 days my ThinkPad T60 is well over 4 months without a reboot.
     
  4. KCETech1

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    a fellow T60 user!!! mine got relagated to being a router recently. I miss that machine
     
  5. coolguy

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    Ever heard of Energy saving???
     
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    Rodster FYI you can use google or bing SE to search the entire forum like this:
    site:forum.notebookreview.com uptime

    If you want to just do aSUS and look for Fancy start (for example)
    site:forum.notebookreview.com/ASUS Fancy start
    Is seems like the builtin searches are hit or miss at NBR.

    Does hibernate count as being up?
     
  7. KCETech1

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    sure were actually energy positive here ( net putting power onto the grid )
    my husband installed 2 wind turbines and solar panels a couple years ago.
     
  8. newsposter

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    weeks/months with my desktop. Typically I don't have to reboot for driver upgrades unless it's on a disk controller. I think my desktop has rebooted more from power fails (ups batteries going flat) than from deliberate user action this year.

    My laptop gets booted every day but the thing boots so fast I almost never suspend/hibernate/sleep it.
     
  9. linuxwanabe

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    I don't get the point: Why not reboot a PC? I don't see any real saving from leaving a computer in sleep or hibernate, although Windows 7 still boots more slowly than Linux or OS X, it does boot more quickly than the Vista and XP installations of yesteryear.
     
  10. micman

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    Never really up for more than a few hours. I left it on last night for about 8 to download Starcraft II. If I can I always turn it off since there's really no need to have it on.
     
  11. KCETech1

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    im just used to sleep mode after all these years I guess. as for boot time I will agree with you, but I can boot win 7, Ubuntu or OSX equally as fast on my SSD equipped units. ( under 11 seconds )
     
  12. chimpanzee

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    I shaked the reboot/shutdown habit since Windows NT 3.5 but that was mostly on desktop so initially was on all the time. It later had a pretty reliable hibernation/sleep process and used that since then.

    In the NT era, my average Windows uptime is around 3-6 months(when there wasn't a regular Windows Update thing). Now is about once a month on desktop/laptop and as needed on server(always manual update and only do it for things that affect server).

    reboot and resume from sleep are two different thing. I can resume from sleep within 3 seconds(with all my works right there) vs 10-20 seconds for a reboot(on SSD) and I still need to reopen lots of thing to get to the state of 'that was what I was doing yesterday or an hour ago'

    In fact, there is no good reason to shutdown or reboot as power consumption wise, hibernation is the same. The only remote concern of the 'paranoid' who think hibernation can cause some extra write to SSD.
     
  13. KCETech1

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    or pull usernames and passwords out of a MBP's RAM by the firewire port
     
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    Are you sure MBP keep power to RAM when it is in hibernation ? Never own a mac so don't know how it works, my laptop/PC is basically in shutdown state when hibernated. Of course, without things like bitlocker, it is possible that the hibernate file can be peeked(it is compressed by still possible)
     
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    yes, it was recently demonstrated here at my work as a MAJOR security issue with OSX 10.7/MBP combo.

    we had a unit with disk encryption enabled and the username and password was pulled, then the unit resumed so that full access was gained to the machine.

    there was an article about it in Macroumers and aandtech recently as well.
     
  16. chimpanzee

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    eek, ugly.
     
  17. KCETech1

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    NOT quite what management said.
     
  18. chimpanzee

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    lost you on that one.
     
  19. KCETech1

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    our managers freaked right out since they pack alot of personal information for themselves and clients. and had it shown that they were in major breach of our government privacy laws with that kind of security issue.
     
  20. chimpanzee

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    ah, but is that a inherited problem in Mac from day 1 ? That is, it simply doesn't have a 'shutdown' state ? As I said, never own Mac so don't know if there is a thing call 'shutdown' or 'hibernate'(as in Windows sense and not the new hybrid-sleep which I believe has the same potential of being breached).

    That one thing I don't quite understand is that programs like GPG has long been stored its keyrings and password etc. in encrypted state even when in memory so I thought this is a general practice.
     
  21. KCETech1

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    it was a bit of a concern for the last 3 years with Mac's since that particular threat was found, but the updated OS opened the hole alot larger. and strangly OSX does NOT encrypt any user id's or passwords in RAM like Windows and Linux do. it should be general practice but appears not.

    but Chimpanzee We seem to have derailed this thread enough, if you want more information feel free to PM me
     
  22. Rodster

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    ^^^ Thanks ! :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    I don't see why uptime actually matters except as a point of pride for personal computer users. Otherwise, uptime is only important in server applications.

    Sleep (and to a certain extent the hibernate function) is a stop-gap solution to the problem of the inordinate time it takes to boot a desktop operating system. Instead of rebooting your PC every time you return to use it, sleep allows for negligible power consumption and a quick return to computing, without waiting for the entire OS to be reloaded.

    I think the more relevant question is, with the technology we have and our endless search for efficiency, why are we still waiting for our computers to boot up (besides the obvious technical answer)?

    I agree, but we can also hope that some day even critical updates like kernel patches won't require a reboot. Linux has this capability to an extent, and tools like Ksplice take it even further.

    Unless Linux ACPI integration has improved greatly since I last used it, what you claim is not true. Sleep/hibernate functions in Linux are still largely unreliable, thanks to poor ACPI implementation and a horrendously byzantine graphics stack. Problems still exist in these basic functions, such as abnormally high power consumption while in sleep, or the computer waking on its own immediately after suspending.

    Contrary to KCETech's answer, hibernate stores the contents of RAM to disk and powers the system down. However, RAM does retain residual data for a few seconds after the system is powered down. Some rather elaborate hacking techniques have shown that this data can be salvaged if the RAM modules are removed and rapidly cooled, but the fact remains that hibernate does not keep power to RAM.
     
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    Not sure. Maybe like... 3-4 days. I've probably had to shut down for something. I average about a week of uptime.

    I don't leave my computer plugged in when it sleeps. It barely has any battery drain in the morning. Why would I turn it off?

    Windows 8 won't even have a shutdown option by default.
     
  25. KCETech1

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    hibernate yes, sleep no. we had a security auditor in who recreated this

    AccessTech News: Any Mac With A Firewire Port Running OS X Lion Can Be Hacked Within Minutes [Report]

    on a 2010 MBP 17" infront of us, with both an encryped and unencrypted drive at work last weds.
    yes you can secure yourself from it but not without some changes
     
  26. chimpanzee

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    @Bot

    As mentioned, no super fast boot can replace sleep/hibernate due to the 'context' issue. I constantly have 30+ things opened(but randomly so not something that can be scheduled or fixed inside startup script) and even each launch is instant, the time to find and reopen them(me being the bottleneck) is long and frustrating.
     
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    \\MylP2 has been up for: 0 day(s), 0 hour(s), 23 minute(s), 46 second(s)
     
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    17 days, 19 hours, 17 minutes, 50 seconds
     
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    If you want to see Uptime in terms of awake time and from reboot maybe you could try this. W7 only.

    [​IMG]
     
  30. micman

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    51, 52, 53, 54, 55.......
     
  31. Matt is Pro

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    I shut down every night, so usually no more than 10-20 hours.
     
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    Same here, since i carry the laptop with me to university every day except on the week-ends it never stayed on for more than 3 days. I always shut it down (old habit from when i was using win 98).
     
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    55 minutes
     
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    I've heard that concern before about hibernating and excessive SSD writes, but I'm not convinced it's a problem. I just tested it on the machine in my sig, and the Intel SSD Toolbox only reported ~500MB more writes than before hibernating. Since I only use hibernate once or twice per day (incl. nighttime), I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing...

     
  35. Kuu

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    2 Days and 7 hours as of this post. I reboot randomly though, or when my laptop freezes for some reason.

    Longest I've gone is about 16 days with a sleep cycle about twice per day. I don't use hibernate because my laptop boots faster than it resumes from hibernate though. Restarting also lets windows save various changes that it makes that you might or might not notice.