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    Whats your Vista Hibernate speed times?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by deanparkr, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. deanparkr

    deanparkr Notebook Enthusiast

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    How long does it take your notebook to hibernate on Vista?

    ive got a T7400 2GB of RAM and a Seagate 120GB 7200rpm HDD

    and it takes about... 1 whole minute to hibernate :eek:

    Its actually faster to shut down!
     
  2. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    But the really important number would be how long to hibernate and startup again, versus a shutdown and a restart. It SHOULD take longer to hibernate than shut down. Vista has to dump the contents of memory to disk as part of the hibernation process.

    Gary
     
  3. vaio2k7

    vaio2k7 Notebook Evangelist

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    I've noticed it takes a little while to hibernate, versus rather quick speed to sleep, but for both returning to the logon screen is within 2-3 seconds.
     
  4. Niqui

    Niqui Notebook Evangelist

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    is it better for the comp to hibernate than to sleep or anything like that?
     
  5. By ToR

    By ToR Notebook Evangelist

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    sleep does not power down all your components...hibernation does.
     
  6. KnightUnit

    KnightUnit Notebook Evangelist

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    I tend not to use hibernate as its normally quicker to shut down and turn on. I prefer standby if anything.
     
  7. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Impossible. Sleep is fast, but true hibernate is slower to shut down and slower to wake up.

    Sleep powers down everything except the memory and is very fast to "shut down" and very fast to wake up.

    Hibernate copies everything in memory to the HIBERFIL.SYS and then powers off everything. On power up it reads everything from the HIBERFIL.SYS and restores memory. So it takes a few seconds to shutdown (the more memory you have the longer it takes), it also takes a few seconds on power up. (Certainly more than 2-3 seconds!!!)

    There is also a hybrid sleep mode. This prepares a hiberfil.sys file just like hibernate dose, but then it powers down everything except the memory, like a normal sleep does. This is a "safer" version of sleep, in that if you run out of battery power, the system can use the hiberfil.sys to come back up. This mode takes a few seconds to shut down and wakes up very quickly.

    (I suspect vaio2k7, is really talking about hybrid sleep mode not hibernate.)

    Gary
     
  8. Knightendo

    Knightendo Notebook Consultant

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    It it easier to just sleep it than hibernate it. I mean if you are really picky, then use sleep to be honest, sleep and hibernate do just the same except hibernate copies eveything simiarly sleep does
     
  9. planet_vikram

    planet_vikram Notebook Evangelist

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    For me what really important is 'how many Vista hibernates properly' :)

    I hv this Nvidia card and vista gives me problems too many times while hibernating......I seldom end up just pressing the power button :(
     
  10. Ingvarr

    Ingvarr Notebook Deity

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    Actually, hybrid sleep is for desktops without backup power - as a precaution against power outage during sleep.
    Since notebooks have backup battery Vista disables hybrid sleep on the notebooks by default - leaving only fast Suspend To RAM (Sleep) and Suspend To Disk (Hibernate).

    And with the most modern notebooks you dont have to worry that battery will run out while in Sleep. Because on battery low, most notebooks are designed to wake up from Sleep and automatically hibernate.
     
  11. eyecon82

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    agreed..it is that way for that specific reason
     
  12. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Yes you are absolutely correct about hybrid sleep. But I have seen references by some of the more avid tweakers, of re-enabling that functionality on Vista. (Not sure why, but...) However, the symptoms that vaio2k7 described of shutdown taking some amount of time and wakeup being instantaneous, certainly are the characteristics of hybrid sleep. Real sleep would be fast at shut down and wake up. Real hibernate would take some time at shut down and wake up.

    My Sony FZ190, is setup exactly as you said with the sleep function set to wake and hibernate once the power drops below a prescribed %. All the benefits of hybrid sleep without the "drawback" of the slower shutdown.


    Gary
     
  13. jl1989

    jl1989 Notebook Evangelist

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    30 secs for hibernation.
    15 secs for shutdown.

    30 secs to startup from hibernation
    47-52 secs for just regular startup.
     
  14. vaio2k7

    vaio2k7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Perhaps I am using hybrid sleep mode. Is that the button pressed when you click Start, and click the button whose description is something like "Keeps your session in memory and puts computer in low-powered state"...?

    I use this sometimes while plugged in as I dont think I have ever closed my laptop on battery without turning it off.
     
  15. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Nope, that is just the simple sleep option. It should give you a very fast shutdown and a very quick wake up. Your power settings on battery will also force your machine to automatically wake from this sleep mode if the battery drops below a certain level. It will then hibernate which puts the machine into a complete power off state (after storing the memory contents to the hiberfil.sys file).

    Gary
     
  16. vaio2k7

    vaio2k7 Notebook Evangelist

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    So then if this button is a simple sleep option.... [​IMG]

    Then when you click the right arrow for more options(Switch User, Log Off, Lock, Restart, Sleep, Shut Down),why does Sleep come up there as well?

    What is the difference between these two options for Sleep?
     
  17. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    What's the difference? Nothing. The button you are showing is actually "programable". You can decide which of the options it will envoke. All of the options are always listed when you right click the arrow, regardless of which one is currently assigned to the red button.

    Gary
     
  18. eyecon82

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    That is correct VAIO2k7...that button..even though it looks like shutdown, is programmable to make it do any action you want....

    also the default setting is just 'simple sleep' not hybrid or anything else.
     
  19. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    Right. Because hybrid sleep doesn't make sense on a laptop. If you sleep the machine with it attached to AC power and the AC power fails the machine should revert to a battery profile. The battery profiles are typically set to come out of sleep mode and enter hibernation after a preset time or preset battery level is reached.

    I believe, as I said before, that by jumping through some hoops you CAN enable hybrid sleep on a laptop. All of this laptop related discussion of hybrid sleep only came about because vaio2k7 described a mode of shutdown and start up that took a bit of time to shutdown but had virtually instantaneous startup. The only powerdown mode that meets that description is hybrid sleep.

    Gary
     
  20. vaio2k7

    vaio2k7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the clarification. Seems like Microsoft just put a shortcut way to opt for sleep mode.
     
  21. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    No, they put a shortcut way to opt for which mode YOU want it to be. It just happens to default to sleep mode. You can change it to whichever mode you want it to be.

    Gary