When and HOW do you expect the reign of microsoft windows to end ?

Tell us about Microsoft Unfair Business practices.

 

What would the amount of devs have to do with difficulties maintaining a *Nix system?

It can be annoying to new users, but each distro is there to facilitate a different need.

Well, you always get the insane fanboys that shout "Gentoo sucks!" Or "Ubuntu is for people who can't use a real OS!" But they are in the minority, thank Christ. I could really only see a 'war' between the FOSS community and Novell (apparently allied with 'The Devil'.)

They are free. You can go and download the source code. You pay for packaging and support. As well as closed source software in some cases.

Open Source doesnt mean you dont get paid. Many people make their living coding FOSS software.

The religious fanatics call it cheating, I call it useful. I still play games, so I have a small XP partition. Doesn't mean I like my Linux any less.

Yes, FOSS is really a campaign to subvert the hearts and minds of (particularly) Americans into Communist trends.

That's the day Linux users know they've won.

Well, you can run Photoshop CS2 under WINE. CS3, I'm not sure about.

Hai, this is mostly true.

Actually, most websites I see are run on a LAMP setup. But businesses (and governments) trust FOSS because of the nature of it's development. Bug and security patches are generally rolled out quicker. "With many eyes, all bugs are shallow."

I think the most common goal of open source software is the make the highest quality software possible. Whilst there are the fanatics, most of the devs are not amongst them. Open Source provides and alternate development model. In some cases it's better than closing your development, in others it's perhaps not.

Well, the company was done for Anti-Trust. And they're repeatedly being fined by the EU.

 

This is actually a double whammy to Microsoft.
The hardest part of linux is getting to install it, and support.
In US, it might not be economical to hire linux people for maintainence.
In developing nations, labor is cheaper, its more economical to hire a linux support staff than to pay for X microsoft licenses.

 

Most of the improvements to the MSS recently have been glitch ridden and almost irrelevant. But they could and should simply buy out their competior They appear to have reached their level of incompetence.

 

mayb. but do you believe open source are made by engineers for engineers?

hmmm.. perhaps maybe.

i see...

but still if the open source environments are so useful and such, why use XP anyhows. i thought you can emulate and run windows software by using a bridge software...

Why...

i mean when i say business, real and well known businesses using Microsoft Server tecnologies and majority of e-commerce websites... and according to survey report, ASP and ASP.Net dominated almost half of thetechnology in the fortune 1000. I guess most businesses trust Microsoft tech even if they say MS' technology is vulnerable to attacks... what can you say about this. dont tell it's the marketing strage of MS... old news.

i perhaps will agree. but do you think open source is more vulnerable to security issues because it's "open". critics say that open source is unlikely to be attacked because why will you attack an open door rather than a "closed door" with something they are hiding. And also from what i read, hackers will not mostly attack the lesser 10% below of the OS dominated distribution. I think they call it, security by means of deception.

What are the comments of the lawyers.

 

Depends on the piece of software. OpenOffice is made for the end user, Gnome and KDE the same. But things like Vi are made for the more professional user.

The only thing I use XP for is Company of Heroes. Because ATi's linux drivers suck worse than their Windows ones, and playing the game in Linux gives me some missing textures on infantry.

It was a joke.

What was the other, slightly over half, using? And not all decisions in businesses are made for purely technical reasons.

Well, I'd say that open source is more secure because of it's openness. Anyone can read your code, and shout "Hey, you left a security whole the size of my mother in this class!" And, if you are too lazy or inept to patch it, anyone else can.

I'll agree here, for the desktop space. There is more publicity in nuking millions of windows boxes than hundreds of Linux boxes.

But in the server space, the internet runs on *Nix.

I don't care for the lawyer's comments, it's the Judge and jury that I listen to.

 

yep. true. actually i have openoffice and i think other features are more powerful than MS Office like formula handling and composition.

Like best of both worlds...

LOL.

well as stated, others are mixed or hybrid setup like the front-end is Java and the backend being Microsoft IIS... still microsoft though. Others were PHP backended with IIS too.

Maybe but i think the patching will not end. Hackers always find doors or dig somewhere to penetrate the system... As always there's no perfect software. Anyhow, as you stated, some are migrating to open source like universities and governments. but the well known MIT (Massachusetts Insitute of Technology), a body of open source system has migrated to Microsoft .Net from Java J2EE... Saying that although .Net license is more expensive, it turned out to be cheaper since development and deployment is much more faster compared to labor cost in Java which took a longer period of time to deploy... Join us at Phil's blog (hes from MIT).
http://philip.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000tcP&topic_id=Ask+Philip&topic=

True. I guess most of the powerful and complicated software still run in Unix.

But isnt it that Judges draw their decision makings base from the lawyers' reasoning.

 

I think this is a very good point. I'm finding myself less reliant on laptops when I'm "on the move". I mainly use my Nokia N95 and hopefully own a Nokia E90 soon. I think smartphones are becoming so sophisticated... Why on earth do you need a laptop in about 10 years++ time? All you need is a wireless keyboard (which is already possible) and preferably a wireless large screen then all your work can be done through you mobile handset. BTW the Nokia N95 already has TV-out function. Mobile phones are becoming more computer like... So in the future just as desktop market share is giving way to laptops, laptops may have to give way to smartphones.

In this case the new King of dominance maybe Nokia/Symbian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvCY4BGhxTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXv0j6oq0NE

 

i think this will never happen. on the most part or functionalities yes. But plugging to external monitor and keyboard and such... a hasle part indeed. I might stick on my laptop still.

And come to think of it... designing webpages, architectural maps, writing software, hosting large database information and such is way imposbile with cell phone... granted the other gadgets as stated. but i guess no. not in a century.

 

A decade is a long time in terms of technology let alone a century... Laptops will probably fly by then...

 

Neither Mac or Linux have the sheer usability that Windows has. I prefer linux myself, but also realize its not for everyone.

Windows will survive until a new OS enters the market.

 

Might I ask, which distro you are using?

Because I haven't demoed Linux to anyone and have them say afterwards that it's not useable.

 

ok. i will agree. a decade is not a surprise. but after a decade laptops would be more powerful, more immersive, more engaging and technology will not ever-ever left what laptops and pcs have put up on their legacy.

 

I don't know why it always has to be Linux versus Windows. I've used both. I use Windows now on this laptop because it's the only way that everything I need on it works. I don't mind Windows, but I do use it only as an OS (basic operation of the computer and file operations). It's actually the only thing from Microsoft on my computer. Everything else I do can easily and reliably be done with open source or freeware. So, forget about the Linux vs Windows box of thought, and simply relegate Windows to its role as OS. Use other software on it. We don't have to be in any parade, or even watch the parade. Keep yourself as crossplatform as you can, so you can be independent of what the actual operating system is that happens to be on the computer you're using. Today, we can easily do that with applications, and we can do it with development tools if we aren't locked into some corporate requirement.

 

Well, there is always the possibility that Stallman would strangle Bill Gates.But I'm not sure whether it would suffice :/

 

The linux community is fine with windows & linux coexisting.
Microsoft is not. It wants complete dominance and control.