Where to go from here.

Long story short, I went into Windows 10 lock, stock and barrel with no exit plan. My intention was to make this work, period. It is quickly approaching a week fighting with it that I will never get back.

I have my own two laptops and PC on 10 right now. The PC, an old Dell C2D, is a HO track lap counter that was on Windows 7. Essentially it is just to count laps only so it is being used actually as a device. For this reason Windows 10 may make sense, with the P2P over the internet disabled that is.

My old laptop, with a C2Q, has a BR reader and capable of handling Adobe CC chores for my camera. It seems this would make sense to go back to Windows 7. I really would not be using this machine for net usage other than updates, just like the PC. In the end neither of these machines will end up showing much usage to different net share metrics.

My primary machine, the daily driver, would probably then go dedicated to Linux Mint 17.2 and ext4. I would no longer be interested in having a dual boot setup. I found that other than the importing data over it was a waste having Windows 7 and only slowed stuff down waiting for NTFS systems to mount.

Eventually all my data will go to ext4 formatted data storage. This essentially means a full migration in time from M$ all together. With 10 being such an epic failure to my workflow, usage and sanity I just do not see another choice.

I will try and hold out a bit longer but without immediate positive changes or a firm commitment with specific promises, not another we will listen but here is what we are going to do, I just have to go. Just to say, I really wanted this to work, and it did for a long time, but I am sorry but M$ we are quickly heading for a quickie and final divorce!

 

And we all thought Windows 8 was bad. Heh.

I will guarantee you one thing, use 10 for as long as you can. Then the moment you get tired of its privacy invasion and counter I tuitive UI and do return back to Windows 7 FTW, you will be so darn happy like someone who was away for years in a different planet and returned back home.

 

This is just too bad. I think I might have to gobble up some Win 7 licenses. Problem is I doubt any OEM will continue to offer Win 7 as an option or even provide drivers for Win 7 in the next year or so. It doesn't look like Microsoft learned from the Windows H8 debacle. I personally am considering Linux build of some sort. I really want SteamOS to go full steam (pun hehe) ahead and get developers on their side. So I can ditch Windows entirely. Gaming is about the only reason I stick with Windows. Well that, and Microsoft Office. I haven't found a Linux package quite a full featured or refined (believe it or not) as MS Office on the Linux platform.

 

I used to need office as well, now that I am retired Linux variants are fine.

Now with M$ sense security issues I am not sure I can leave it on the PC. It may then be a security risk sitting in the background not getting the attention it deserves. Man this just stinks.

Edit; have to love their response too, essentially we were given a choice at install time, give me a berak!

 

To answer your question "where to go from here?" the only place is Windows 7 until it is no longer supported just like people used XP for as long as possible but at least 7 is a proper 64 Bit OS.

 

My issue with doing that only is it does not further another OS development nor get developers interested in making offerings for other OS's. While yes I would use for productivity on photo and video Windows 7 for now I need to look forward. The problem is I have no hope left for M$.

The answer, we gave you an option not to use it, is typical corporate bull squat. It shows no interest in fixing this for the consumer. They have their agenda and it is not with the general consumers best interest at heart.

 

This is being called FUD, I do not think so as at the very least it is a hole waiting to be opened. And what about P2P over my network from guests too gobbling up bandwidth?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-windows-10s-wi-fi-sense-feature-is-not-a-security-risk/

 

Never trust what you read on these commercial sites bro. ZDNET, CNET, PC Magazine, all targeted towards the average Joe. You think my grandpa cares if his drivers were updated automatically in the background? Not one bit. That's who Windows 10 is good for, as much as you and I don't like it, those n00bs will tell you it's the best thing made ever since sliced bread.

 

Well, there are two ways we can look at this problem.

There is the narrow-minded old-school redneck view (my personal favorite)...


Or, the progressive "strategic" view that we should expect
from those with forward-thinking leadership traits...

 

And to prove my point to you,

Look at the difference in feedback between diff. forums..

When I posted a thread here why I don't like Windows 10, 99% of the members agreed with me or thanked me or learned something from my experience to prevent them from upgrading.

Look how the feedback was taken on these two other forums, same thread......

Anandtech - I was flamed and wronged, all the Micro$h4ft advocates jumped in.

MDL Forums - I got the most ridiculous arguments that the benchmarks are MEH because the drivers are not yet optimized for Windows 10 and it is still a new OS. I explained that even Windows 8.1 which has mature drivers and is a mature OS by now after all those updates, still loses against Windows 7 in every performance category, but it seems like I am talking to walls...

 

Yup... exactly. These are the people Ben Franklin was talking about when he said:

Or, in layman's terms, something like this...

 

@Mr. Fox @TANWare

And why you shouldn't read or listen to things on the likes of CNET, ZDNET, etc. because they are targeted towards n00bs who just want a PC to surf the net and logon to Facebook and couldn't give a rat's *** if their PC is being used to share WiFi with others, being tracked, or used as a file updates host..... these are the things that excite those kind of sites....

Acer unveils low-cost Windows 10 Cloudbooks as rival to Chromebooks

Doesn't interest me at all, I am waiting for Galaxy Fluffy Books running Windows 10

 

This is all part of their wicked plan. It's what they wanted for us, not what we wanted for us.

 

TBH, this is what I want to see for the casual users. Just not at the expense of signing their privacy away.

 

Most of the not too tech savvy users I interact with simply dunno that they are doing that.

 

I'm on the same boat as you guys, especially after upgrading from a spare 8.1 Pro license I had and finding out that telemetry and data mining from Insider builds were still included in the RTM build.
I can live with the rest, but the privacy issues are just too big. I kept avoiding Apple, Google and Facebook exactly because they do monitor (and log) every step you make on their services (particulary the later one..).
I'm thinking of switching to a dual boot setup of Linux Mint for general stuff (internet browsing, music, movies etc) and Windows 7 for gaming and Office (until games start coming natively to linux or wine makes them 99% playable).
Oh and here's two links to check out regarding Windows 10 and its privacy issues:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/30/windows-10-privacy-settings/

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/30/windows-10-and-privacy/

Edit: Here's a nicer piece of software to automate telemetry prevention:
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...ows-10-Telemetry-Destroyer!-Now-with-a-script!

 

It just seems like so much work to get the machine to a workable state to not worry about privacy, updates, start menu, local search, among many other things... I'm exhausted just thinking about having to do it.

 

Well the P79 has made it back to W7 for now. That new update failed 8 times.

 

Yep. This statement sums it best IMO.

The real question is: what for? What are we gaining?

In order to find that out I've given W10 the final benefit of a doubt which lasted about 12 hours on one of my spare systems. Never again. Done. Over and out.

 

Actually on the P79 re-upgraded and now the update stuck but other issues.

1.) Synaptic driver refused to update from the M$ update as it threw an error code. had to roll the touchpad driver back so it could get updated.
2.)Memory_Management error on reboot. Tested memory and all is fine but each shutdown it collects data and nothing gets fixed.

 

I like this: "I'm exhausted just thinking about having to do it." by HTWingNut. So I am still sitting and waiting till all the bugs are out before trying to update my P7805u. I really respect all of you for being early adopters.

 

My system game with Windows 8.1.... Where do I go now

Can I even still buy a Windows 7 License? Should I just go back to Windows 8.1?

 

If you were on 8.1 and everything was ok then go back there. About the only W7 keys out there are from system builder DVD's etc..

 

Just use the program to roll back windows 10! Simple Answer! Don't! Crippled my system! Everything I have installed since the uprade no longer works I can't uninstall it or reinstall it!

 

That's why I never trust these OS upgrades or downgrades, clean install ALWAYS. Just my 2 cents worth

 

Or at least take an image to be safe (or use a spare drive to test with).

 

I just re-imaged it. I had an Image of Windows 8.1 Just before my 10 upgrade. I just like to try these things out.

Acronis 2015. WINNING! lol

 

Hmm. This is a depressing read! Here I was hoping to upgrade to Win10 for benefits of DX12 but it seems the OS has many problems.

I guess the only possible way to be positive is that there is a 1 year window to upgrade free. If the OS still sucks 10 months from now then we have no where to turn!

Crippled, forced updates, privacy problems on a new soldered cpu/gpu laptop what is the world coming to! Pathetic...

 

IMHO M$ may be painting itself into a corner. all those new machines have no recourse of getting a new license of the older OS versions. This leaves them at either paying for a systems builder DVD or getting a free distribution such as Linux.