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    Which do you do? Shut Down, Hibernate, Sleep or Nothing

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by allan_huang, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. sweetStyles

    sweetStyles Notebook Consultant

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    So, in terms of wear and tear, convenience and stuff like that, sleep would be the way to go? I always used shutdown, but after reading this, and a couple other articles, I think I'm going to turn the other cheek.

    Here's my current... schedule.

    It's always on when I'm awake, and shutdown when I shutdown.
    I sleep for about 6 - 8 hours, so in that time, would the shutdown/boot produce more wear? or putting it to sleep for that 6 - 8 hours. This is my ultimate question xD
     
  2. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    On the road - Shut Down

    At home - Sleep
     
  3. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    When attached to AC power - sleep.

    When not attached to AC power - hibernate.

    I almost never shutdown.

    Gary
     
  4. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    its only on when im using otherwise is switched off, unplugged and up out of the way of my cat :D she loved climbing all over my 360 and PS3 and she aint getting ANYWHERE near this.
     
  5. orev

    orev Notebook Virtuoso

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    Don't worry about wear and tear unless you are starting/shutting down 30 times a day. It makes no difference at all. Either way (sleep, shutdown), your drives will be starting/stopping.
     
  6. TeeJay 44

    TeeJay 44 Notebook Deity

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    I use both Hibenate and Sleep. Shut down about once a month.

    The XP install on my Acer handles both Sleep and Hibernate properly.

    This is the way I do it:

    1. Sleep time (programmed via Acer ePower Management) = 20 Mins.
    2. Hibernate (programmed via Acer ePower Management) = 5 Houirs.

    Comp is always safe.

    No stress. No worries.

    Quick booting too. Just me though. Suits me.

    Cheers,
    Theo
     
  7. luee

    luee Notebook Deity

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    I used to hibernate because rebooting and start-up took so long. I installed a stick of RAM and now I shutdown because the time difference is minimal.
     
  8. Forced

    Forced Notebook Geek

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    So, I think mine somehow goes to hibernate after it's left to sleep for a length of time.... because if it's been asleep for a little while it comes right back on by hitting a key or flicking the mouse. But after a long time I have to press the power button to get it back on, and it shows the windows boot screen saying Resuming Windows.

    What's up with that? I looked through the power settings and ePower Management settings on my Acer, but there isn't an option for hibernate.
     
  9. sweetStyles

    sweetStyles Notebook Consultant

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    You've disabled hibernate? Since Vista has the Hybrid Sleep, your situation kinda sounds like a hybrid o_o Just guessing though, I really don't know how it works.
     
  10. Crimson Roses

    Crimson Roses Notebook Evangelist

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    If I know I'm coming back withing an hour or less...leave it on.

    If it's going to be awhile... shut down.
     
  11. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Many machines are configured via the power management to sleep for x number of minutes of inactivity or until power drops below a certain level and then it awakes and goes into hibernate.

    Or as someone else suggested you may have "hybrid sleep" turned on. It creates a hibernate file and then goes to sleep, again waiting for x number of minutes or a certain power level and then the power is shut off, effectively leaving the machine in hibernation mode.

    Gary
     
  12. Wirelessman

    Wirelessman Monkeymod

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    I shut down the laptop at night.
     
  13. pixelot

    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    In XP I used Hibernate quite a bit. Over the school year, I used Stand By during the day and Shut Down for night. Now I just leave it running...
     
  14. fred2028

    fred2028 Sexy member

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    Sleep for most nights, leave on if downloading.
    Hibernate if unplugging (I remove my battery)
    Shut down weekly or more to get rid of random stuff.
     
  15. scott.ager

    scott.ager Notebook Evangelist

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    If I could find a devce to wake up my Fujitsu A6120, I would use standby all the time. Seems like the BIOS programmers thought it would be cute to enable the modem and lan cards for wake-from-standby but nothing else.
    I guess that Fujitsu A6120 owners using XP will have call up a friend by phone and have them transmit a "magic packet" instead using those old fashioned methods like rub the touchpad or hit any key. Guess I'm getting old.
     
  16. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Shutdown when I'm done; otherwise, nothing - when I first got the thing it would run very sluggishly after being woken from hibernate, so I finally just turned off all of the lesser power states so that now it's either on...or off.
     
  17. usair

    usair Notebook Guru

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    coolguy is right / restart is a +

    24/7 torrent ... GB of torrent -
     
  18. dbam987

    dbam987 wicked-poster

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    During the day my computer is either on or asleep. At night when I want to go to bed, I turn it off (unless I have a large download in progress, virus-scan, or backup job).
     
  19. razorjack

    razorjack Notebook Consultant

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    I use Hibernate the most, then upon returning my work is right as i left it.
     
  20. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I voted sleep, but its a difficutl question.
    Now at home in the holidays, I will use shut down the most, normally at university I use sleep all day.
    (so in the end, sleep & waking more than 5 times per day - I used that more often than shut down)
     
  21. killeraardvark

    killeraardvark Notebook Evangelist

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    I shut my PC down once a month if I am lucky. Sleep has worked great on my two systems. Vista has really worked well for me with putting it to sleep.
     
  22. Guntraitor Sagara

    Guntraitor Sagara Notebook Evangelist

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    Lol @ nothing option :D
     
  23. arktrance

    arktrance Notebook Guru

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    I usually shut down my laptops but when I'm at school and in between breaks or classes I hibernate.
     
  24. blksnake

    blksnake Notebook Consultant

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    Sleep all the time. It's a waste of time IMHO to use anything else.
     
  25. MisterQ

    MisterQ Notebook Consultant

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    Shut Down. Sometimes I hibernate, espcially during trips.
     
  26. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Nothing. My primary computer (desktop) stays on 24/7/365. I rarely restart it; current up time is 128h.

    For my laptop, I always shut down. Something always seems out of whack when I use sleep/hibernate.
     
  27. grbac

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    Depending on the situation, but I use sleep during the day. When I sleep, then I shut it off.
     
  28. Snowm0bile

    Snowm0bile Starcraftologist

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    Wow this is so awesome, I was just about to start a thread about this topic but there already is one! great.

    So its ok to shutdown ur laptop every night? Or just leave it on? I always have left my desktops on, and for my laptops, I just shut them... good or bad?
     
  29. mtness

    mtness loitering

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    Generally i shut my notebook down after every use, im a student in rural india and power is a issue( 12hrs a day), so i got into the habit of shutting down.
     
  30. built

    built Notebook Deity

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    When I'm home...

    Desktop...Always on...
    Laptops...Shut down when done using/updating, etc.

    When I'm not home...

    Desktop...Shut down...
    Laptops...Shut down...

    When I'm on the road with one of my laptops, I always shut it down between uses...
     
  31. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    I always shut down my laptop for a few reasons.

    1. I've got an SSD so it takes less than 25 seconds to boot up.
    2. I don't want any of the components powered up to increase longevity.
    3. I don't always have a good surge protector at hand.
     
  32. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I always used hibernate in xp days. it was very fast, 1gb of memory gets loaded quickly. now i have (sometimes) 4gb in my notebook. thus hibernate takes too long to load. booting the os is much quicker (having an ssd).

    for a normal notebook, i'd disable superfetch, remove the ram, and use 1.5gb or so with vista. together with an ssd, that works great, and would allow wake-up-from-hibernate in about 6 seconds.

    but i need more ram in some of my tasks... :)
     
  33. SDreamer

    SDreamer Notebook Consultant

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    Shut down, just to save electricity. Boot up for me takes like 30 seconds (never timed, but it feels shorter than that).
     
  34. decaPODA

    decaPODA Notebook Evangelist

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    same here..SHUTDOWN .. hibernate takes really long time on my XPS..
     
  35. aussiek2000

    aussiek2000 Notebook Consultant

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    hibernate. It takes my computer a couple minuted to get to the logon screen. 15 seconds to log on after that.
     
  36. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    shouldn't be that slow?!

    but yes, that's basically it: what ever's faster get used.

    i really love hibernate technically, it's more the way that allows you to not think about anything. but it really needs some optimisations for big ram systems. (like only writing down a compressed version of the real-used data. no cacheed data, etc..)
     
  37. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    I am curious, how long does it take for you to hibernate and re-awaken the machine using an SSD. Also re: item #2, I assume you do realize that when hibernated nothing is powered up at all.

    Gary
     
  38. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Plus hibernation allows you to leave applications open and ready to go. Of course I always save any open documents before I hibernate, just to be safe. There are times at the end of the day when I am working on something with Word, Excel and MS Project open. I save all the documents, hibernate and head home. Power up later and everything is exactly where I left off.

    Gary
     
  39. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Two minutes to a logon screen is REALLY slow. Two things to look for. First do you have any network locations mapped to drive letters? Second, look at my signature line below and click on the defrag boot files link. Defragging and re-sequencing the boot files can make a significant difference in boot time.

    Gary
     
  40. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    I was actually referring ti "sleep" on #2. I disabled hibernation. I don't like having hibernation mode writing a file to my hard drive every time.
     
  41. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Still curious, before you disabled it did you happen to try it out and have any recollection of how long it took?

    Anyone else here with an SSD have any timing on hibernation speed versus a cold boot speed?

    Gary
     
  42. davepermen

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    depends on the ssd. if you have an ssd with 250MB/s read speed, it takes 4 sec/gb to load. if you have 4gb ram, that's 16sec. and yes, it really is that simple, i measured quite some configs :)

    sadly, on an intel mlc disk with 70MB/s write speed, this means much longer to actually hibernate.

    i'd love a hibernate that could "cancel". means if it takes a minute to write to disk (which would fit 4gb ram on an intel ssd), and you suddenly notice oh crap, i forgot, and want to turn back on, yuo have to wait the resting minute + 16 sec to boot back up (+bios post).

    it would be great if it would stay at "standby" during that minute writing down, and could directly turn back on. sadly, during hibernation, there is no cancel possible.

    have to test if hibrid sleep can wake up while writing down.. haven't actually tested.

    can't wait for pcie based notebooks that can even have ssd's kicking sata3 :) 1GB/s performance would be great for hibernation :) standy, what's that? :) (i'd move back to 2gb ram by then, just for the fun :))

    when will hibernate finally have a compressed disk write? win7? win8? that would be a reason for me to move :) desprite ugly-nonuseful taskbar :)
     
  43. Rob41

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    Sorry I can't say. I never used it before I disabled it.
     
  44. EnterKnight

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    Sleep. But off most of the time. Starts up real fast anyway.
     
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