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    Why does MS want to quash nLite and vLite?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Kyle, Sep 4, 2010.

  1. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    From nLite and vLite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    So, how do nLite,vLite harm MS' $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ stream?
     
  2. Kocane

    Kocane Notebook Deity

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    Is it against Microsoft's EULA? Probably not, i don't know. It's weird because it's not like it does any sort of cracking or such.
     
  3. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    Maybe they wanted to make sure that his time and effort would be directed at MS assignments and not personal projects.
     
  4. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Standard company policy.
    I have a tool called Nv GPU Pro, if I work for Nvidia, I'll have to shut it down, or at least, if they are really nice, ask me to remove "Nv" from the the name.
    The reason for this is that you you don't take insider information to your advantage.

    Imagine if I work at Microsoft on Windows 8, and I purposely add a security hole to explorer or something, slip in added features that are were not planed, and then make a free or paying tool that allow you to fully tweak explorer thanks to the slip in features.

    Same for banks, if you are at the bank, you can't do stuff for yourself (it's illegal too), you have to see someone else.

    If I ran a business I would apply the very same policy.
     
  5. timtravel42

    timtravel42 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I thought he made the apps and then later was hired by microsoft.

    EDIT: ok lol it makes sense now - he was hired, and then because of what GoodBytes said he couldn't make the apps anymore
     
  6. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    Ah, or course, makes sense!
     
  7. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Hmmm, what about all the SysInternals stuff? Those folks went to work for MS and now their programs are available from Microsoft's own website.

    Gary
     
  8. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    These are approved programs. Microsoft test them and make sure it's:
    - Interesting enough to be hosted
    - Is of good quality
    - Solid and reliable
    - And doesn't do the above.
    - Also there is no donation or payment. These are free software.
     
  9. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    I know, but I am just saying the model DOES exist for apps to continue to be promoted AFTER folks go to work for Microsoft.

    Gary
     
  10. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    I guess he will have to submit it for validation and see if it's approved. But I don't think it will get approved. As, probably, Microsoft will consider it as being an experience breaker as you can remove features (and that is part of the Windows experience). The Legal dept. side of Microsoft will consider that hacking, or modifying the product which the user agree to not too in the License Agreement. If they do this, it will open a gray area in the license agreement, which can be exploited. Lawers that a company hires are there to ensure to the least gray areas as possible to keep control on their software.

    In the old says, because this whole License agreement, back to even arcade games, some people where hacking or adding new circuit board enhancing a game and selling it as their own game. Plus you had game copies going everywhere freely. Because of this, copyright laws were put into place, and the license agreement concept came in.

    Know you can say that it sucks, and that it's not the way to go, and that they can keep it in control and so on and so forth. But your thinking as a developer and not a lawyer perspective. You see the lawyers of a company, is at their responsibility to ensure that it doesn't' go out of control. They are the ones that go to people and sue (not Bill Gates or Balmer himself). Together they represent the the company image, so every department.


    Let's put it into a different perspective, imagine you have a software company, like Microsoft. You want your software to be protected form people selling "enhancement version" of you product, whether it's good or packed with viruses and malware, or add/remove components. You want that everyone that uses your product, get the same great experience, you also want to avoid these hacks above, and that you have revenue from your software, and you have shareholders who invest in your company, to get money (and not for the greater good). So, you need to maximize profits. So you have your legal team assembled and their job is to ensure the above requirements.

    Look on how Microsoft already has a hard time with OEMs already, that put 20 anti-virus and manages to fill that 1TB HDD that you have with junk to a point that your fancy Core i7 975, 12GB of RAM, Quad SLI Geforce GTX 480, is slower than your old computer. JUST because the consumer wants to pay the least for their laptop (all this junk cuts the price of the machine. They are either """value added""" software (some company don't get it or go to way far), or advertisements.
     
  11. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Oh Hey!! It's this guy again posting his 2nd Microsoft bashing thread.
     
  12. KLF

    KLF NBR Super Modernator Super Moderator

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    Indeed. Bashing MS for hiring the developer for his skills :)
     
  13. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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