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    Why'd Microsoft Turn It's Amazing OS X Killer Into Vista? Here's The Answer!

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by MICHAELSD01, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. MICHAELSD01

    MICHAELSD01 Apple/Alienware Master

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    I've heard from sources Microsoft's super-awesome OS concept, Longhorn, which was turned into Vista will add a lot of its features into Windows 7, which is a rewrite of the Windows OS. I've heard from one of the products managers that work at Microsoft (which I won't name) that Microsoft still has the features of Longhorn being finalized and perfected for Windows 7, and they weren't released with Vista because Microsoft didn't want to release such a major new release with Vista because of the OS rewrite they're planning for Windows 7, and are waiting to implent the features into the new code. They also believe the average user's computer won't be able to run Longhorn well and are waiting for a majority of users to have atleast have dual core processors.

    For those who don't know what the killer Longhorn concept was, here's a video:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...983&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
     
  2. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Slightly old news, but Microsoft doesn't need an OSX killer. They need an XP killer.
     
  3. Awesome laptops

    Awesome laptops Notebook Evangelist

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    agreed xp is going way better then vista especially in games
     
  4. scooberdoober

    scooberdoober Penguins FTW!

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    They've been also planing on incorporating more "Live" content, with the goal of eventually migrating most of your data to networked storage locations, likely M$ servers. Also they plan on further integrating and linking all of your communications, IM, email, phone, chat, etc. They want to have everyone everywhere, constantly connected and communicating through their network. Which all gives me the creeps to be really honest.
     
  5. own3d

    own3d Notebook Evangelist

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    Microsoft dominates the market because nearly every manufacturer preinstall a windows OS, Whats gone wrong for Vista is that everyone is sticking with XP because they know it better and that it's better performance at games. If MS released some sort of games accelerator pack for vista the die hard fans might swap :)
     
  6. icecubez189

    icecubez189 Notebook Deity

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    not all XP or Windows 2000 or even Vista users are gamers. the majority of users are huge corporations that are slowly adopting their software for Vista. and some are even going with Linux or Ubuntu for cheaper solutions. i think eventually Vista will be mainstream like XP but by that time, windows seven would have probably been released
     
  7. bmwrob

    bmwrob Notebook Virtuoso

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    Sorry, but I doubt that's so. Don't know what percentage of computer users are gamers, but it isn't anywhere near everyone. Many regular users (for the sake of this post, let's just say they're non-gamers) probably haven't a clue which is the better OS. Then, there are users of OSX and Linux, Unix, etc, etc, most of which probably couldn't care less about problems with Vista.

    Just to end this on an agreeable note: I prefer XP over Vista, too.
     
  8. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    I would say, the number one reason for consumers not to switch is because of "fear of the unknown", for companies, it's definitely compatibility.
     
  9. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    XP has die-hard fans, indeed. But, unless you're buying a new computer you don't want to spend money on a new OS.
     
  10. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Once u buy a new laptop..say HP.. u are stuck with Vista for life.... The support for XP is none..

    Hunting down drivers is too tuff for avg. user.

    Thats how MS dominates market
     
  11. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Yeah and it's better than having all sorts of OS available. For instance, x64 support is bad (compared to x86) because x86 is not being pushed out from the market.
     
  12. THAANSA3

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    I believe, or I should say know, that Vista will be mainstream long before the release of Windows 7, which is scheduled for a 2010 release. Unless they move up that tentative date, then Vista will have been mainstream for a while. Many insiders lately have been predicting that Vista will be mainstream by the beginning of next year.
     
  13. imar3l

    imar3l Notebook Evangelist

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    if they didn't release their killer features w/ vista then waht were they waiting for..5 years and no update and then this BS. thats lame..
     
  14. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Depends what you mean by mainstream. Vista currently has more market share than all Mac and Linux OSes combined.

    http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=10&qpmr=24&qpdt=1&qpct=3&qptimeframe=Y
     
  15. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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  16. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    And thus, refer to my first post.
     
  17. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    I must say; that video looked pretty impressive.

    But yeah, XP is really the only competition for Vista right now. Maybe SP1 will help change that in some respects.
     
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    JCMS Notebook Prophet

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    I followed Vista since Beta 1 and what I read was that a problem happened and they had to abbandon everything that happened in 2000-2003

    EDIT: Well, it was supposed to come in October 2003, so yeah that's the part they had to abandon. I doubt W7 will look like that, there was no GUI as of 6 months ago and the current alpha version uses AERO.
     
  19. THAANSA3

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    I used the work 'mainstream' because another poster did. What I mean, and I perhaps should have been more clear, is that Vista will completely take over in terms of support. Pretty soon, nobody will support XP and it will eventually be phased out. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
     
  20. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Oh, I just responded to you so that it would be clear what I was talking about, and not to Mr. "I publicly announce that I break the law".