Will Vista ever get stable

Do u think that Vista will ever be as stable as XP sp1 or is Vista being abandoned by Microsoft because its a hopeless piece of **** OS?

 

I don't have any problems with stability.

 

What are the issues your having with Vista? I've had vista on one computer since the day after it came out with 0 issues.

 

Vista is quite stable. The only problem I have with vista is the incompatibility with some older software. Vista is also a tad slower than XP.

 

Vista IS more stable than XP SP1, and is certainly not a 'hopeless piece of ****'. A better question is, will you ever grow up and stop making pointless, retarded threads such as this one?

 

vista is actually stable. it is the things the users do that make it unstable.

 

Understatement of the Year.

Vista is like a Honda Civic trying to tow a 40' boat. I ordered a Vostro 1700 with
Vista Premium and the CPU fan was constantly running. I installed Windows XP and the system is zippy and running great.

To the OP, wait for Windows 7 to be the real successor to Windows XP.

 

Yes, well said. The OP probably undervolted/Oc'ed too much and blamed Vista for the BSOD's he saw.

 

I'm running Vista HP on a T7200 (probably slower than your Vostro), and after a week of use, it works faster than XP, except in gaming, where it's a little slower.

 

Well, xp is quite a bit faster. better?

 

Unless you know that for sure you are making big assumptions. Some of us actually still have problems with the OS, which is why we regularly have to answer threads about this or that and downgrading back to XP or installing XP on a new notebook.

 

SP1 is stable for me. Every OS mucks up somewhere.

 

ok Greg, but not all of those downgraders' problems have to do with stability. Some do, but not all.

I've seen four common reasons people on these forums go back to XP (on a machine that came with Vista):
- performance and resource consumption
- compatibility with their programs
- stability
- preference (familiarity with XP, didn't like UI changes in Vista, etc.)

I don't actually know how many of the downgraders' problems are related to system stability. I'm kind of curious though.

 

I think shadowfate said it best. I think I've done at least four complete reinstalls of Vista since I bought my Laptop in January. Why? Because I like ti dick around, which in turn causes problems. Needless to say, playing with it is the best way to learn. I'm actually thinking about doing another clean install after work in the morning.

I think the majority of complaints come from those that give up to soon, as I did on Vista x64, only to reinstall it and learn the ins and outs of the operating system.

Rob

 

It really depends on your system to comment about being stable (mainly ram IMHO). On my old desktop config, Vista came alive when I upgraded to 4gb of ram from 2gb. That was with a Pentium D 940@4ghz.

 

Never had any problems either.

 

Why don't you just create an image of a clean installation?

 

nVidia drivers cause the majority of Vista crashes (somewhere like 60%, I can't remember the exact number).

I've counted a total of 2 BSODs with Vista, 1 was my fault, 1 was random. 1 required restore from a restore point - some driver f-ed up the system. And that's about all I can remember.

My system is very fast, partly because of maintenance, partly because I don't download random crap.



I can confidently say that at least 50% of problems, not just with Vista, but overall, are user created.

 

Sorry, but that has nothing to do with Vista.

See this:


A sanpshot of my computer, home premium. What you see means no CPU activity, and if it wasn't because I started task manager it would be 100% System idle, in other words, no CPU fan unless the user does poor manteinance and keeps bloatware running at all times.

Stability? My Up Time averages 400 hours, only reseting computer after updating it. With XP there is no way in the world I could get close to that.

Wouldn't roll back to XP is I was paid to do so... (actually, for $1500 I might do it, so I could get another computer with Vista and dump this one after rolling back)

 

Thnaks, I agree with robcope. The first time I had Vista I was Playing aroung with it Installing lots of software that are not comaptible, using registry cleaners, Updating to SP1 the first time. Most of this reasons are what makes Vista unstable. But after a few reformat, my laptop right now is very stable no more random crashes.

After several reformats you will learn what not to install and play with in Vista.

Nvidia Drivers take 30% of the errors

 

as above poster said. remove the bloatware, and you may actually get somewhere. what i hate is people that blame something else for there own inadequencies.

i have had 2 BSOD's. both while over clocking my ram.

 

All the ones I've had where

A) Faulty HDD in my deskop
B) C90S-related

 

Clean install mate with or without ACHI or Turbo Boost the OS is pants. HDD sits and thrashes for 10-15 minutes even with 2GB of ram and a 160GB HDD with a T7250 and a 6800M GT.

I took care of the problem with XP.

 

My HDD used to thrash a lot with Vista (on 2 gb ram), but installing SP1 fixed that... it's fine for me now.

 

I just created a poll in this forum... so hopefully now we'll find out what fraction of people downgraded due to stability in particular, rather than other reasons.

 

The HDD "thrashes" because of indexing, creating restore points, and shadow volume files.

 

I have 2 vista machine and know of many that work very well, including my 2. I would say it is a fairly stable OS.

 

That would be to easy. Don't I feel like a bone head.

Rob

 

I have never had any problems with vista. I have to had to work a bit to get some drivers to play well. I agree with the other posters that it is slower than XP. With each windows version that comes out, it gets larger and runs slower. This has been overshadowed by the new technology that has also came out at or near the same time as each new release. I run Ultimate Dell OEM with aero enabled) on my xps200. It was originally shipped with XP Home. I upgraded the ram to 1.5g. And still no issues.

 

I disagree... at least about SR and volume shadow copy. Shadow copy including system restore only runs for about one minute once a day according to my system logs (in Event Viewer). And unless you're adding tons of new files all the time, indexing shouldn't be much. (Although maybe it was anyway, I don't know.) So... I don't know what it was doing in my case that was causing the thrashing... I just know that when I upgraded to SP1, it stopped.

 

Vista is much more stable than XP EVER was. I really don't understand the XP love and the Vista hate.

 

Vista is stable for me...

 

I think that the stability of Vista is directly correllated with the stability of the user; hence your issues?

 

i agree i thought i would hate vista and have had 0 issues if anything ive noticed much better performance although super long startup i have core 2 duo 2.4 4 gigs ram dual 160 7200 rpm and a 256 video running on vista ultimate 64

 

People forget how XP was when it first came out....I didnt bother getting it until XP SP1 came out.

 

EVERY user is going to have a different experience. Different hardware, different software, different drivers, different patterns of usage.

I am definitely not an amateur when it comes to computers, and to this day I just cannot stick with Vista. There are issues for me, several of them, that cannot yet be solved. I'd love it if I could actually use the OS, but it is...limited...compared to XP if you consider exactly what I need from an OS.

 

People hate change...

I have vista ultimate, but can't seem to be xp to bed... xp is a good OS... I've never had any issues with it... both are stable and reliable OSs IMO. Guess I stick with xp since it is already installed on my main laptop and desktop.... dunno, guess I'll switch to vista one day... maybe if I ever jump to 64-bit.

 

I have to agree with the first few replies of this thread. I have hardly experienced any issues with Vista. After the brief adjustment period, I found that I actually prefer Vista over XP (I hope this doesn't open a can of worms). I seriously enjoy my experiences with Vista and I plan on using it until Windows 7 is released.

On another note, I really have hope for Windows 7, for some odd reason. I think that M$, with reports of their marketshare dwindling and general uneasiness in the consumer market, are beginning to realize that they cannot continue releasing somewhat inferior, buggy products. Apple's OS has garnered much positive attention and feedback and M$ has to be feeling the pressure right now. We'll see what happens, though.

 

Well MSFT knows its going to have most of the customers when it comes to OS. I don't think they are too worried if Apple gets good reviews and positive feedback from their products. The world just isn't going to change over to Apple just like that.

 

Like I've said before, Microsoft is not facing tough competition from Apple/Linux. Microsoft's real competition is themselves. Too many people are sticking with XP. Their biggest mistake was allowing XP to have such a long life.

2006:



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Source: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=10&qpmr=24&qpdt=1&qpct=3&qptimeframe=Y#

 

I agree that Apple isn't going to take over the market overnight. I never said they would. I'm just saying that you take notice when your closest competitor is making news. The only analogy I can think of is when I played ball. I always paid attention to the player(s) that I thought was my closest competition. That's not to say that I thought that the person would take the number 1 spot all of a sudden, but I kept it in the back of my mind that I needed to continue to improve and get better, so as not to let the people chasing me catch up. I like to be proactive about things and not wait until the damage is done, and I would hope that a multi-billion dollar corporation would take the same approach.

 

You should pay attention to me then. I'll tear you up. Lol. AI. WEAK.
Of course they'll take notice and step it up. Just look at Vista and Mac os leopard or w/e version(not too good with apple). Vista was a complete bite as far as the widgets and stuff. ;p

 

My point exactly.

P.S. AI has at least been to the finals. McGrady has yet to make it out of the first round.

 

Apple is always going to make the news because of Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field.

The guy is a freaking amazing presenter.

 

That multi billion dollar corporation you are talking about are lazy. Rarely do they stay on schedule and personally I don't think they care about their competition enough to a point where they feel threatened or uneasy. Yes, Apple has continued to grow in computer sales, but it hardly makes a dent.

Psh. AI won't even make the playoffs this year. GSW will take 8th ;]
Tmac will get out this year. Don't you worry. TMAC 4 MVP.

EDIT: Yeah, I always enjoy watching Apple keynotes. lol

 

Not really... it was a bite, but not from apple.... and apple did not create the widget idea anyway.... they took it from someplace else. I often get a small laugh to myself when people start saying ms did this or that.... like browser tabs... lol

 

It's funny how you can seem to agree with my point in one post and then refute it in another. Anyway, I'll say again that I know Apple is not making enough noise to really threaten M$, but given enough time, your competitor can catch up if you don't pay attention and take them lightly. M$ has been extremely lazy, but I have a feeling that Windows 7 will be different. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but we'll see.

P.S. I'm not talking about this year. McGrady's body of work is nowhere near what Iverson has done in the league man (get real). There is no comparison. TMac is good, but injury prone. They had a 3-1 lead on Utah last year and lost the series. That's bad. Anyway, this isn't a b-ball forum or thread. We'll have to debate sports someplace else. I do have love for TMac, though.

 

XP is harder, faster, better, stronger

 

Yeah I remember reading IIRC that the guys from Stardock "Windowblinds" fame said they took the idea from them.

 

Vista for me is just as fast and even faster than XP, its also 100% stable, and infact more stable!

The only part its slower in is that some games lose a few frames per second, nothing to cry over tho. I have a triple boot setup on both my laptop and desktop, XP is on there and I have not booted into XP for over a year now.