The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Will XP run on an external hard drive?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by kingbob, Feb 17, 2009.

  1. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Is there any way for me to use my old hdd with XP and all the old information and programs intact? If I buy an external enclosure for the hdd and connect it via a usb port, what will I be able to do? Will I be able to access my old programs or just my documents?
     
  2. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

    Reputations:
    1,654
    Messages:
    5,955
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    205
    . You cannot boot from the external drive, others might claim otherwise, I got no luck

    . You can access the programmes from the drive, some (or many) might require a re-installation as to see the external as folders

    . You can access all your personal data

    cheers ...
     
  3. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    No... you can. I do it regularly. Not all external drives can be booted from, and not all computers can boot from USB. But to say it's impossible would be wrong.
    That said, the OP will unlikely be able to boot from an external hard drive with an old installation of Windows on a new computer, but that's because of driver issues.

    Almost all will require re-installation unless you can boot from the drive. Programs depend on too much more than just Program Files. Short answer, no.

    This is true. You may have to take ownership of the files though if you had passwords on any user accounts (see guide in my sig for details)
     
  4. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It's the same computer, 5 1/2 years old with a new hdd and a fresh install of XP from the original recovery disks. I was just curious what I would be able to access on the old hdd via usb. What if I connect it back to the computer as a slave hdd, would I be able to boot to it that way?
     
  5. Budding

    Budding Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,686
    Messages:
    3,982
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    You will be able to access the files on the old HD if you connect it to your computer using an external HD enclosure, but you will not be able to boot from it (there were no consumer laptops built 5 1/2 years ago that supported this).
     
  6. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Thank you. What if I put it back in the computer and set it up as a slave, is there any way to boot into it that way?
     
  7. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    Yes, assuming there is a place to mount the drive in the computer. Are we talking about a laptop or a desktop here? All you would have to do is press your key to bring up the boot devices selection menu, then select that other drive. Would boot no problem.
     
  8. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    agree'd


    if you put the hardrive into the desktop then you could boot off of it no problem. Heck you can even take a laptop hard drive and use it in your desktop ...... but i do not know wether we are talking about a desktop or laptop anymore
     
  9. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

    Reputations:
    1,654
    Messages:
    5,955
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Many programmes do not require reinstallations, just a call direct to the exe from the folders. Thus the remark of many apps would require a reinstallation to update the registry.

    cheers ...
     
  10. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It's a desktop, IDE, with connectors for 2 hdd. How would I select to boot into the secondary drive? Do I have to do this thru the BIOS menu? Do I still set it up as master and slave? Or cable select?
     
  11. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I am talking about a desktop, but as you said it could be a laptop hdd being used in a desktop.
     
  12. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Anyone? I am really interested in learning how to do this.
     
  13. Budding

    Budding Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,686
    Messages:
    3,982
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Setting master and slave will involve a jumper change on the back of the HD. The actual setting for the jumper will depend on the HD in question.

    To boot from a different device, you will have to change the boot device priority in the BIOS.

    Cable select is an alternative that avoids the need to change jumpers, but you will need a special jumper to enable Cable Select mode on your HDs.
     
  14. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    You'd jumper it as normal, so if it's the second drive on the channel, jumper it as slave. Then you could hit your boot menu key on startup to select the drive, or you could change the drive order in the BIOS.
     
  15. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Thank you. Would this also work if both drives were set to cable select or should it be master and slave?
     
  16. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    Jumpering drives is to get the BIOS to detect the drives, and nothing more. If the BIOS sees the drives, then you're fine with your jumper configuration.
    Personally, I'm against the use of cable select ever. The computer is stupid, and to avoid errors, I need to make sure I am telling it what to do.
    Hopefully that answers your question.
     
  17. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Thanks for the info. I won't bother with cable select. Will Linux run from a usb drive, or should I ask in the approprate forum?
     
  18. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    -Yes, it will. Installation is usually the tricky part, but some distros like GParted and DSL make it very easy.
    -Not all flash drives are bootable, not sure if you meant that when you said USB drive.
    -Not all computers can boot from USB devices.
     
  19. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I was thinking of using a flash drive or an external drive to try linux. My computer is probably too old to boot from a usb device, but how would I check to be sure?

    I have a bunch of linux questions so I need to do some research on the linux forum. Do you participate there?
     
  20. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    You can check for sure if you have a USB drive, even if you don't have an OS installed on it. Just plug it into the computer, hit the boot selection menu key, and if you see your device, you can boot from it.
    You can also check the BIOS for an "enable USB boot" option.
    What's the specific model of computer? I may even know off hand if it supports USB booting.

    I participate in almost every subforum, but I am not super knowledgeable about linux. I'm about on the level of the average user when it comes to linux, whereas I'm an extreme power user with Windows. I could try to answer your questions but offer no guarantee.
     
  21. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Thanks, I'll test it with a usb drive and see what gives. I am a total linux noob, I am considering playing around with it a bit but I don't want to mess up my XP. I just did a reinstall after 5 1/2 years and things are working good so far. It's like a new computer. Who needs an i7? LOL!
     
  22. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    I need* an i7!







    *want
     
  23. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30

    I hear you. That is my next computer. I think I will wait until Windows 7 is released and perhaps build my own this time. I'm still using a P4@ 2.8 and with the new install, it really doesn't seem that bad. I'm sure it is turtle slow compared to something modern. Sometimes it can be educational to keep an old machine running smoothly.
     
  24. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    I can't help myself, I replace my main computer no less than once a year, but usually do it more like every four or so months.
     
  25. kingbob

    kingbob Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Now I'm jealous! How soon until the i7 arrives?
     
  26. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

    Reputations:
    1,806
    Messages:
    5,921
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    i7 is out, and has been for at least a month, maybe a bit more.
    I am waiting until the second gen of them, whatever they come out. I suspect then the prices will drop too.