Will hibernate/sleep be fixed in SP1?

Vista despite what others might say runs perfectly for me apart from the HUGE hibernate/sleep issues.

If any usb hub, removable hard drive etc...is plugged into my laptop, then there is a HIGH chance the laptop will either not go to sleep, or sleep and not respond when I try and wake it up.

In both cases, I have to restart the laptop by hard resetting it. The sleep function is extremely useful when it does work. However since I always have USB devices plugged in, it fails most of the time to my annoyance.

This would be my number one fix in SP1.

 

Have you installed the various Vista patches which are not part of the normal updates but, nonetheless, fix various serious bugs.

Start with the patches here, then go to Microsoft and look for a bunch of patches issued on 1st October.

John

 

there were 2 important updates released last saturday or sunday regarding sleep issues with usb and BT; i have not experienced any sleep issues since then
prior to this...1/10 or so sleeps, my computer would not sleep and i would have to manually shut it down or it would not wake up from sleep, no problems since and I must have sleeped and resumed at lest 20-30 times since

 

Been there done that. It was working better before.

 

The "huge hibernate and sleep issues" are very specific to certain makes, models and "tweak" settings of various users. For others there are no issues at all. This would seem to point to drivers and tweaks rather than Vista itself.

Gary

 

I'm hurtin'. My m1330 opens to a black screen every time

I tried all the tweaks on Flemenko's Vista tweak thread but still black.

 

100% agree.
I got 3 things plugged into my computer at most times:
1- Wireless mouse reciver
2- An USB hub with the following stuff hooked up to it: 1 external hard drive, 1 joystick, 1 ipod, 1 game controller.
3- An USB flash drive.

I can go to sleep, or hibernate with no problems, even while sleeping/hibernating I can remove, or add a new devices, with no problems.

 

I don't think so...

if you have read into it properly, you would notice that it is spread out to through the entire spectrum of notebook makers. For most, these sleep/hibernate issues are out of the box without any 'tweaking.'

Your statement also contradicts MSFT, who acknowledged these sleep/hibernate issues and as recently as last Saturday, and released a hotfix for them.

Hotfix for Windows (KB929734)

Installation date: ‎10/‎13/‎2007 4:07 PM

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Important

Fix for KB929734

More information:
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=929734

Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com


Update for Windows (KB929577)

Installation date: ‎10/‎13/‎2007 4:06 PM

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Important

Fix for KB929577

More information:
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=929577

Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com

 

Not really, if you read the stuff on the links you posted, you would find this:

I bet they meant 'rare condition', and not 'race condition'.
Anyway, as you can see it's a driver issue. If a notebook manufacturer includes their own driver versions, then there is no problem, and also, if it's 'rare', that means it doesn't affect everyone.

 

We already know that it does not affect every person; most computer problems are rare and you only see them exacerbated on the forums because that is where people go to complain and find a resolution to their problem.

Most usb drivers are not manufacturer based and are generic usb hub driver, therefore, it being a vista issue, not manufacturer. try reading into it a little bit further please

 

No, I read everything properly.
I never denied that it was a Vista driver issue, I merely pointed out that it doesn't affect the entire spectrum of notebook makers, as you had stated.

Furthermore, the problems described on the links you gave us are not the same that the OP described, so Gary's statement is still valid.

 

Really? I think I did read it properly. Hotfix #1 above lists a long list of .SYS files which by the way are USB driver files aren't they. But it states this is a fix for a limited number of devices. The second one is for certain BlueTooth devices and again the files are DRIVERS.

And I reject the notion that MOST of these sleep and hibernate issues are with pure out of the box installs. I am not denying there are some in that category, but certainly not MOST.

Gary

 

Try doing a sleep/hibernate problem search in each manufacturer forum on this site and you will see that the problem is, in fact, spread out through the entire spectrum of manufacturers

limited devices= not every device has a problem; notice how they didn't say limited manufacturers

driver issues, none the less, are a vista problem; the usb drivers and bt drivers are generic meaning they apply to all manufacturers. Even if you have a IBM laptop, it does not mean you have an IBM usb hub. More likely than not, yours and mine USB hardware is from the same manufacturer.

So, you are still failing to explain yourself properly

Not most, but a good portion of BSOD's and freezes are out of the box. They have to do with the intel turbo memory driver and it's corresponding vista incompatibility. Even though the drivers are the culprit, the finger gets pointed to Vista