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    Win8 or Win7

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by ChrisToePha, May 20, 2013.

  1. ChrisToePha

    ChrisToePha Notebook Consultant

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    I recently got an ASUS G75VW, and it came with Win 8. I am not sure whether I should stick with it or go back to Win 7. I am more familiar with Win 7 of course and have no experience with Win 8. I've done some research it seems like Win 8 is fast.

    So the question is, which one do I go with. I am going to be using the laptop mainly for games, and a little bit of school work, as my other laptop is meant for school work.

    Any suggestions? I do not know what to do.
     
  2. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    only you can answer that one but i know i wont be touching 8 with a barge pole (english slang for staying well clear).

    also check if your lappy is backward compatible as theres been lots of headaches for members on here unable to go back to 7
     
  3. ChrisToePha

    ChrisToePha Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, I am currently using Win7 from my SSD on the g73jh and its running fine. So I assume that it is running fine.
     
  4. HTWingNut

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    No need to spend the money for Windows 7, unless you don't like Win 8. Performance is about the same.
     
  5. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    If it has Win 8 Pro you have a free downgrade path. If not you then need to try out Win8 and see if you can take it or do you need to spend money to downgrade or return the system while you can. That is unless you have access to spare Win7 keys. That being the case then it is compatibility searching.........
     
  6. StormJumper

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    I would say if you can afford it toss W8 to the wayside and go to W7 that will better serve you in what your wanting to do "Gaming". Also check as some have UEFI bios or secure boot and you have to turn that feature off in order to format and install Windows7. Get Windows 7x64 pro IMO and get your updates as Asus probably has them on their site but do check with their support driver site to see if have them but I did a simple search and found the site not sure if it is the one but here is the link for you to look at. The drivers on that site are for x64 only that I can see. And to those that said performance is the same I would say that isn't the whole picture your looking at there are more then just one thing that makes or break a O/S and metro is a breaker....

    ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download G75VW
     
  7. Jarhead

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    Given that windows 8 is truly faster and does actually benefit the Average Joe user (though I have my doubts about this...), I'd still go for Windows 7 if you can. You're already familiar with it and Windows 7 "just works", so I don't see what technical reasons would hold you back from "downgrading". But, it's your call if you want to stay on 8 or go with 7. But just my two cents, Windows 8 is a tablet OS and has no right to stay on the desktop in its Metro form.
     
  8. FSU Logan

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    I downloaded W8 on day one of its official release and now I can't stand W7, so it really is just all opinionated BS
     
  9. ChrisToePha

    ChrisToePha Notebook Consultant

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    I guess I will stick with Win 7 then
     
  10. tijo

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    I would give Windows 8 a shot, but set it up in a way that will make the passage to 7 easy if you end up not liking it. There are quite a few vocal members here that don't like Windows 8, others like it while some simply don't care.

    Given the polarizing effect it has, trying it for yourself and seeing whether it's for you or not is what I'd do. I installed it in dual boot on my M6700 to really trying and fully expecting not to like it based on the opinions of some members here. I found that I didn't care much for it, some things are better in 8, others are better in 7 and my workload wasn't really affected so now, I tend to boot 60% in Windows 7 and the other 40% of the time in Windows 8. I got some programs on my 7 partition that aren't installed on my Windows 8 partition and I'm too lazy to install them on the Windows 8 partition, since I'd have to get the installer from the university again and it involves paperwork, hence the 60/40 usage pattern.
     
  11. merlin_72032

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    With your laptop spec, may I suggest you can install Windows 8 to take full advantage of your hardware and install Hyper-V feature. You can virtualize your Windows 7. I assume that you have either Windows 8 Professional or Enterprise edition. ;)
     
  12. Jarhead

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    Still wouldn't be as fast as a full, real installation such as a dual-boot however.
     
  13. merlin_72032

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    Don't underestimate the power of Hyper-V. Yeah, it is some what slow due to disk I/O and lack of real video driver, but it gets the job done. Your laptop should be able to handle it nicely with SSD that you have.

    I just prefer virtualization over dual boot. It seems a little old school for me.
     
  14. TANWare

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    As a gaming system he will need to stay away from virtualization, old school sometimes is the best school.................
     
  15. StormJumper

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    That is so wrong on so many levels I couldn't find where to start to tell your wrong. Alot of users and high users already tried and if you failed to read all the feedback then that is your lost. And since you don't mention for what platform and what manner it was used fails to give any good insights as to what and how your using it is "your quote".

     
  16. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    If you're in the (or believe the) group of people that can't adjust to a few changes, then stay with Windows 7, otherwise go with 8. I'm finding some of the newer features overcoming the small relearning I had to do, such as being able to pause file transfers, and having them automatically switch network interfaces if you switch to a faster one or disconnect from it, and the new task manager is useful on its own.
     
  17. OtherSongs

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    Good decision.

    Wait until Windows 8.1 actually gets released, then give it another 3-to-6 months to sort out if it (W8.1) will actually be successful.
     
  18. StormJumper

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    That's more then just a few changes and is more of a sudden break then a few changes...for on thing not allowing one to install a Desktop mode or Metro mode is far from a few changes. That's a sudden break...what is done on W8 is already capable on W7 already. Not to mention if you have more then one computer the cost for the O/S is for one not for more then one so your going to spend more money again to get the O/S for those computer and least not remember laptop and Desktop that are out there already aren't "TouchScreen" and rather then evolve and get users to come aboard they tossed aside the users which leads to dissent and refusal buy and down sale in W8 when W7 platform is only beginning to be adopted. There are cost to everything and the bigger or more equipment you have the higher your cost will be not including the training time...

    This assumes M$ actually listens and give a Metro or Desktop setup interface...and if they don't learn well then W8.1 will become the next Vista....or ME.....
     
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    Actually despite all the issues Vista seemed more accepted after 6 months. This could be as M$ was actually working on the issues of the time. While it does not appear Windows 8 has the hardware issues of Vista at first launch there apparently are some software issues. I haven't fully researched this to see how bad it is but can tell you I personally did not see any issues.

    To me with Windows 8 breaking DWM and loosing Aero Glass was the last straw. The desktop graphics now annoy me to the point I can't stand it. It just keeps gnawing at me while using it. Now I could have lived of worked around the other issues but since they messed this up I feel they have to fix it all now before I will convert.

    Now back to topic;

    If the system came with Windows 8 and you can stand using it then leave it alone. If you have Windows 8 pro there is a free downgrade path but it can be a lot of work and there can be setup issues. it is not for the faint of heart.

    If you just can not stand Windows 8 then you have to determine is that system worth the expense of Windows 7 and the trouble of downgrading. For most casual users this may not be the desired option. You may then only be left with the option to return the system and purchase one with a desired OS such as windows 7. This can be expensive though as most systems offering Windows 7 are business class meaning more expensive than a consumer class machine.

    So my advice is for the op, and others with this question, do what is best for you! We all here have our opinions as to Windows 8 so don't let those opinions color your decision. In the end you have to use the system and just as importantly literally pay for your choices.

    It is your system and your money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Edit; I forgot one point. That is with Windows 8, as is, most higher end users are not converting. This can affect casual users that come here or even locally know someone who helps them with their system. Most of us non converts may not be able to help you with certain questions. The opposite side of this is most converted systems from windows 8 to windows 7 loose support from the OEM. These can be other important considerations too.....................
     
  20. tosaytheleast

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    If I were you I would let Windows 8 stand there and learn the new OS. Most of the new users of windows 8 are having unfamiliarity with the new OS but everything will be a little easier. Give yourself a time to wander Windows 8 and you will see its advantages over Windows 7. Since you're saying that you'll use the laptop mostly on games then you would never really have that many problem. Dealing with the office and some system files and commands will be more of a pain in the a**(sorry for this) in windows 8 than gaming.
     
  21. StormJumper

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    This assumes they link tapping a non touch screen for all their movements and commands. This laptop isn't a touch screen and you can guess a touchscreen on a Asus that isn't one doesn't make much sense. Just the looks of it is trying to emulate a ipad of which it isn't and something M$ shouldn't try unless they up to the task of Apple of which they aren't currently at right now. I am not sure how one can be said it will be easier with time when their game most likely is designed for a Desktop interface not a Metro. If the Asus came with a touchscreen that would be good but I doubt this Asus for what they spent on it didn't have a touch screen. There isn't much of advantage over W7 from what I could see or use. I can get to desktop right away and start using my program from the Icons not click on tiles that doesn't show my icon or programs I use. That is the test of how useful a O/S is and sometimes I am not connected to the internet so those tiles on W8 will just be sold colors nothing of useful to me so that would in itself make it unproductive for me. I doubt most games where written for W8 and I find the shortcuts I create in W7 Desktop works when I needed and how I like to use it. IMO W8 isn't ready for prime time and I highly doubt W8.1 Blue (BSOD) will do much to fix their debacle they created.
     
  22. rahul.kapoor

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    I think Windows 8 is slightly better then Windows 7

    No doubt windows 7 is also very good but in speed performance Win 8 beat win 7
     
  23. Pirx

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    There is no difference in "speed performance" between the two.
     
  24. StormJumper

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    Indeed-they talk about speed but will the user really notice it not really in everyday usage probably mostly likely no. A SSD compared to HDD they most likely will see the difference there. But load either O/S onto a HDD or SSD and compared to vise versa that would be a better performance test but either O/S will load and you will not best either one either. So all this speed comparisons does much "A do nothing".
     
  25. djembe

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    Most of the comparisons I've seen show an aggregate (overall) speed boost to Windows 8 with the same hardware and applications. So while the increase may not be a lot (no software changes are going to replicate going from spinning storage to solid-state, as noted by the above poster), it is there. Whether it's noticeable will depend on the individual and their computer usage.
     
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    I've never owned Win 7 on a good system, but Windows 8 boots up after shutdown in 6 seconds on my laptop.
     
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    So does Windows 7 on modern hardware.
     
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    I can boot Windows 7 pretty damn fast on a SSD too... And once you boot up to windows 8, you still have the "what kind of BS is this?" UI to deal with. I'd rather spend that time actually using my computer in a productive manner.
     
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    Windows 8 here running fine, performance is little bit better then windows 7, especially in surfing the internet goes faster.
    I dislike metro and uninstalled every app.
    I would install windows 7 almost back but, when knowing that windows 8.1 will be soon released and fixes all of my discomforts, I dont need windows 7 then, i can wait.
     
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    That is exactly what M$ wants, people to stay with Win8 based on only their promise(s). Personally I do not trust them after the windows 8 release. At this point I will never trust them until I see the end product. I will never help them with a beta or RC or whatever. They are on their own and they did this too themselves.

    As a side note the less Windows 8 users market share and the slower we buy into win8 non touch systems, the more likely the faster it will come out and the better the fix! Do you think 8.1 would be rushed as quickly as it is now, or all the leaks about improvements, if it were not in dire trouble?
     
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    I'm still trying to get the hang of Windows 8, but I'm leaning more towards favoring Windows 7. There's a lot of pointless things on Windows 8 and I have a lot of trouble keeping my file folders from freezing, which is a problem I've never had with any other Windows. I'm going to stick with Windows 8 for a year just to see if it grows on me.
     
  32. StormJumper

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    My sentimental exactly I like to get booted up and start using not having to find where is my program or UI that doesn't related to my needs or wants.

    That is hard to take it up the )(*&(& after their debacle not listening. Release a fix they should just release full version of 8.1 that allows users to either go full desktop with start menu or Metro interface and not a fix cause they obviously didn't understand what the user really wanted a windows interface not a tablet interface-stop trying to compete with Apple your not Apple and you should focus on your core business Windows. If they had gone that way W8 would've been received alot better then it has gone so far right down the toilet.....and don't get me started on performance is a little bit better then W7 that has no real bases to go on as everything is affected by CPU,GPU, motherboard and other hardware installed that runs-it can give anyone the results they are looking for.