Window Vista?

Can someone explain to me more about Window Vista?
What is it?
What is the difference?
Is it worth getting?
Is there any downsides to it?

 

There is quite a bit of information about Vista on the NBR forums and on technology sites. Since your question needs a very long answer, I would do a google search for more detail

Vista is the new Windows OS slated to be released in January.
The difference is mainly in the interface, new eye-candy, and some added programs and security changes.
If you can afford it, it may be worth getting, especially for DirectX10.

The downsides are that your hardware may not be suitable to run Vista. Vista is a very demanding OS.

 

Really? so, it should be a pointless OS then...

Erm, sorry but that's not true, Vista will run on almost any modern computer.

nighthawk, check out the MS site first, then anything else...
- www.microsoft.com/windowsvista
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista

 

This link might be of use to you for an introduction..

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,127629-page,1-c,vistalonghorn/article.html


There was this article saying that a lot of business machines would not run vista or vista premium without upgrades in ram and GPU cards.

http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196601990

 

I dont know why people keep going on about "all the changes being in the interface". Thats just not true. Vista is a major change in OS structure. The kernal was totally reworked and the memory management was also totally changed. Its as different from XP as NT was from 95.

 

I have been running Windows Vista for approximately 3 weeks and I have not truly explored everything that is to it. What first catches your eye is definitely the Windows Aero Interface which is like translucent menus it is definitely a nice touch. It seems to be quite stable for I have not come across any bugs or has my system crashed knock on wood. There is a lot of user intervention that is required during software install. They have added a "network map" to act kind of like "Entire Network" in Windows XP which is a nice touch. From my opinion is quite fast because I boot in shutdown windows in no time, maybe because its the specs of my laptop but it is a welcome sight. It is hard to change, there will be growing pains but once your used to it no sweat.

 

You can disabled the User Access Control by going into msconfig. It may be useful for security but I go really annoyed by it really fast lol.

 

I LIKE VISTA!!

Tried of talking about it so I'll leave it at that. LOL

 

the real question is how many people are going to cash in on the free express upgrades for a measly 32 bit version of vista...personally I stick with my xp.

/thread lol

 

Well luckily I have a MSDN subscription at work so I got Vista Ultimate 64. But why wouldn't you get the 64bit version on the Disc, is it final or do you get both 32bit/64bit on the same disc (DVD)

 

From the thread i've read the express upgrade only comes with a 32 bit version. But I'm not sure how much of that information is speculation or official facts from press releases.

 

No, not true. Functionally, all the changes are in the interface (and in enabling much more restrictive DRM and limiting what you can do with your computer)

How exactly was the memory management "totally changed"?
Tweaked, yes, but totally changed?

The jump from 95 to NT was huge because NT was an actual OS that did what an OS was supposed to do. 95 didn't and wasn't.

But from XP to Vista? A lot of code has been rewritten, but the OS still doesn't do anything radically new. The main new feature *is* the interface.

Yes, the kernel has been changed in many ways, and so what? It still does exactly the same job. It still implements the same API's and it still does everything the old one did, because it has to be backwards compatible.

Let's take their rewritten network stack as an example. Yes, it's new. And so what? Does it allow me to do anything new? Does it make a difference?
No it doesn't. Most likely it just introduces new bugs. The best we can hope for is that it does nothing. It certainly doesn't change the OS in any way.

Most of the changes that matter *to the end user* are:
1: New interface
2: Restrictions such as the UAC (Yes, it can be disabled, but the point is that it's something users didn't have to deal with at all before)
3: Restrictions in how, when and why media can be played, recorded or ripped. DRM enforcement to ensure that whoever is in charge of your OS, it certainly isn't you, the user.

 

Jalf, just keep using DOS then, I'm sure that it suits you as well as I'm sure that Microsoft doesn't care about your opinion...

And when you write an OS that does something "radically new" call me, I'll be interested to comment on it...

It's so easy to talk against something but where the point is... I guess that some people should find the bugs in themself before anything else...

Keep writing novels Jalfy, I realy enjoy reading them and don't worry about Microsoft they will survive but you may not...

 

A significant issue with Vista is money. How much bang for your buck are you getting? I have a student MSDN subscription and if i get either of the top 2 versions of Vista for free, i will try it out. Until then, im sticking with linux.

 

There's no need to be sarcastic. It's just an opinion.
Jalf has his points.
Every people have their own unique op.


Well, i will definately buy Vista someday.
I would like to have and test 64bit operating system.
(it's a pity for my 64bit proc. to use 32 bit OS )


Have you all guys seen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDNuq94Zg_8&eurl=
(this)
Watch it first. LOL!
Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J-i44eKEcc TOO!
LOL!LOL!

"Dare I say it's Mac-like? In fact, it is. Microsoft has always stolen from the best. Key to a lot of what's new in Vista is the much-anticipated Aero interface--but to use it, you'll need adequate hardware and one of the pricier versions of the OS." ( http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,127629-page,2-c,vistalonghorn/article.html)

To me (right now) Vista is like the NEW UPGRADED XP with lots of new features in it.
Features like :
- "AERO" (new looks)
- "SEARCH" (faster, smarter)
- "NETWORK MAP" (new Network and Sharing Center)
- "WIRELESS NETWORKING: Connecting to multiple wireless networks and hotspots is a simple affair."
- "SECURITY" (better protection i hope)
source- http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,127629-page,8-c,vistalonghorn/article.html
- DX 10 (new gaming engine)
- Perfect (i hope) 64bit
- etc (other extra features. You know)

I would like to try all of it.
I'll not erase XP though. Instead, i'll use both .

So, nighthawk,
I've stated it clear.
To me (right now) Vista is like the NEW UPGRADED XP with lots of new features in it. and i want to try ALL the NEW features!
And also, 64bit too!

XP-Vista is not as big jump as Dos-Windows or Windows 95-XP.

To me, it's still worth buying the 64bit ver.

 

Vista doesn't do anything new; it just has a revised GUI. Some of the management systems (ie, memory) have been changed, as well as security policy (DRM), and maybe one or two things run smoother, but the truth is this:

1) Not only is Vista expensive, but so is the hardware required to run it in order to take advantage of the only really good thing about the OS: the GUI. Without the GUI, would you buy Vista?

2) The user loses a great deal of control over the advanced OS functions. Vista literally chooses for you whether to run a buggy driver in the name of security. It even puts new licensing restrictions on certain media types.

If you really want to learn the ins-and-outs of Vista, read this article:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...vista_cost.txt