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    Windows 10 Briefing

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Pirx, Jan 21, 2015.

  1. Pirx

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    Just watching the briefing. So far it looks like they have completely abandoned the professional community now. The vast majority of the presentation is about gimmicky Cortana stuff, and gaming. Oh, and the UI now looks even more crappy than before, but that was to be expected.

    Alright, now they start talking about their new Surface Hub. Well, that one might actually be interesting. The "whiteboarding" capabilities look good. Let's see what else they have.

    O.k., that was a brief interlude. We're back to gaming now, apparently. Oh well...

    Windows HoloGraphic, eh? Cutesy SciFi stuff. Will be awesome, some day. Nevertheless, building that into the Windows platform is a very smart idea. Excellent move. I will admit, that one, if done well, for the first time gives a convincing reason to up the version number to a 10. High praise from me...

    Microsoft HoloLens is a Google Glass on steroids. They say it's going to be available "in the Windows 10" time frame. Fascinating. Now I'm starting to be impressed. They're leap-frogging everybody else out there, if they can really pull this off. They may in fact be doing what they have to be doing to stay relevant. Not bad at all. It's about 1:30 into their online recording, and well worth watching.

    Their HoloStudio is impressive as well. Well, well, looks like Microsoft has something on their hands here.
     
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  2. Jarhead

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    Looks like Windows 7 will be going strong for the next fews years then. Might end up being Windows XP 2.0.

    Nice to see that 10 is being offered for free for a bit of time, though.
     
  3. Pirx

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    No. Like I said, there's a bit of a question mark as to whether they can really pull off the stuff they have shown today, but if they do, then lots of people will want to go to that platform. If that happens, it's a new morning for Microsoft Windows. Yep, good old Pirx is almost getting excited about this here... ;)

    Windows 10 could become a game changer.

    By the way, there's a lot of talk about "Windows as a Service"; sounds like a profound change of their licensing model.
     
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    If Windows is going the way of Adobe CC, just... no thanks. I don't want my computer to cease functioning because I forgot a payment.
     
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  5. Rodster

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    From the few screenshots i've seen, it looks like they've added transparency into the menus. :)
     
  6. killkenny1

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    Whaaaaaaat? Really. Hmmm, Windows 10 doesn't sound that bad all of the sudden. Now I'm curious about how it looks, considering MS made windows pretty much borderless.
     
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    Looks nice !

    win10-across-devices-960.jpg
     
  8. killkenny1

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    Oh, Start menu transparency... Can't say that's what I was expecting for, but I guess it's start...
     
  9. Pirx

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    On the other hand, it looks like the transparency is gone from the taskbar (and window top bars, of course).
     
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    No it's not. Footsteps are clearly visible through the taskbar :D.
     
  11. Pirx

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    Ahh, I didn't see that; that's excellent news. Give us the window top bar transparency back, too, and we're in business...
     
  12. SL2

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    Why isn't this thread called "Windows 10 - FUD thread"? :p

    Get your facts straight before posting.

    From Microsoft:


    Todays briefing would be targeting consumers, it's been known since the media event back in September:

     
  13. Pirx

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    Why didn't you read my original post, all of it, and some of the others, before asking a silly question like that?

    P.S.: Some more material on HoloLens here. Like I said, this has the potential to be a game changer.
     
  14. killkenny1

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    However if we look at pictures from this article taskbar appears to be not transparent anymore. Also it has today's date (21.01.2015). Can't say that this doesn't bother me...
     
  15. octiceps

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    Theme change? Maybe Windows 10 brought back the option to disable Aero. Yay!
     
  16. Pirx

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    You mean the option to enable Aero? ;)
     
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    [​IMG]
     
  18. Mitlov

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    Win10 looks a lot more KB&M-friendly than Win 8.x, and I personally like the new aesthetic (totally subjective of course). I'll probably be buying a desktop later this year, and for a traditional desktop setup, my personal preference would be Win10 > Win7 > Win8.x.

    The holographic and HoloLens stuff is cool in theory, but the devil is in the details, and I suspect it'll be years before those details are sorted for it to actually be a good user experience. Still, you gotta start somewhere.
     
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    Oh, the answer is in my last post.
     
  20. octiceps

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    You know what I mean (DWM = Aero). ;)
     
  21. Pirx

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    Well, they say they will start selling it this year, and the report in Wired I linked to earlier sounds quite positive. But you are right, of course, that there's probably still a lot to do, and beyond this year. Eventually, you'd like the hardware to become more compact and lightweight as well, but given the amount and capability of the hardware they say is in there, what they have is impressive already. Nevertheless, this does look promising. And of course, this will offer entirely new experiences to our gamer friends, too.
     
  22. killkenny1

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    I can dig it for stuff like CAD, for which I think it could be quite useful, especially when working on a multi part assembly and looking how it well it works together before even making a prototype.
    For everyday use though, not so much. Call me old fashioned, but I don't want virtual stuff popping up on wall/fridge/etc.
     
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    I bet nobody is still asking anymore why Microsoft would buy Minecraft...

    [​IMG]

    Get A Load Of Microsoft's Holographic Vision For Minecraft's Future
     
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    ^^^I just had a sudden realization - if this thing could project a functional virtual cockpit (obviously while using hardware yoke/pedals/levers) for FSX, I might be interested in it :D.
     
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    It can, in principle. You way want to watch the video on Microsoft's HoloLens site.
     
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    And, like I said in my OP, Microsoft has some intriguing hardware for us professionals on an executive/management track, and knowledge workers as well. The new Surface Hub they have announced seems to answer a lot of the requirements we had for digitally-assisted meetings. We would have to actually be able to use it to see how well it works, but this one could really go a long way towards making meetings more productive in many ways, and go far beyond those primitive, stale PowerPoint fests we have to suffer through.
     
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    As I mentioned, quite a while back, we need something to use all this more powerful hardware. This will not only drive the hardware industry further along but also the OS side to keep up with the new capabilities. All of this holo stuff will definitely be a game changer down the line. This is the infancy, essentially Atari's Pong compared to where it could be a few more years down the line.
     
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    Yeah I already saw it.
    If it works as advertised, cool! But at this phase, well, maybe not skeptical, but I think I will wait and see what really comes out.
    But if it turns out to be a real deal, man oh man! The thing that is absent in Oculus Rift - interacting in virtual reality and in...real reality both at the same time, and is kinda big OR minus for me will be present in MS HoloLens then I'm sold!
     
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    I want a Surface Hub to replace the whiteboard in our main conference room.

    I won't get one, because I work with a bunch of dinosaurs, but I want one...
     
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    Get one ($$$), show it off to your coworkers, and who knows, maybe they like it and...pat you on the back :D.
     
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    I'd rather work with a whiteboard than buy my office something that expensive out of my own pocket ;)
     
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    Someone has to break the ice you know :D.
     
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    Write it off as "business expenses." ;)

    You know it's true.
     
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    The sarcasm :)
     
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    It seems to me that the 10th version looks like 8.1. Up to this moment I didn't test it, but I hope Microsoft present something extraordinary.