Windows 10 Preview to Upgrade

I'm buying a sager laptop but it doesn't come with an OS. I was wondering if I can out the Microsoft preview on it if it doesn't have windows 7 or 8 beforehand. Also if I do that will I get the free upgrade when it officially comes out. I currently use it on my old laptop.

 

You can install Win10 Preview Build. But you don't get free upgrade if you don't have Win7/8.

If you have never activated Windows' sticker on old laptop you could have try to install its OS on your new laptop and then update to Win10.

 

Alright makes sense. Just wanted to see what the policy was because Microsoft tweeted that those who use the technical preview on an xp computer can get the upgrade for free.

 

Hmm. Just googled what you wrote. http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-insiders-will-be-able-upgrade-windows-10-rtm-free
I seriously doubt that it means what you want it to mean. Perhaps it means that you can upgrade but can't be activated (same as what was told about pirated versions of 7/8/8.1). Perhaps not. Who knows.

 

Microsoft is pushing their malware new OS on everyone they can... They want to deploy it on as many computers as possible and then unveil their Windows as a service deal when you're locked in.

 

What does that mean? Do you have any links?

 

http://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...windows-365-building-towards-windows-service/

It isn't entirely clear yet but Microsoft has been talking about paying yearly licensing fees to use Windows for years. What better way to force this on customers than to snag up everyone into Windows 10 with the free upgrade offers for the first year and then roll out a plan to charge 50-100 a year for updates? If you remember, when Apple first rolled out OS X they charged for an upgrade every year. It isn't inconceivable that Microsoft will make such a switch.

 

Isn't that all just speculations after all? All we know is that W365 exists, nothing more. Why would any consumer pay $50 for Windows per year? It doesn't make sense, just like Apple realized ($29 in their case, IIRC), There's a reason for why they stopped.
It's not that hard to switch OS these days. Besides, no one is forcing you to upgrade, W7 is supported for 5 more years, and W8.1 for 8 years.

I call clickbait.

About the last FUD quote, this has already been debunked. The free upgrade is available for one year, after that you have to pay if you want to upgrade.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about

 

Its free for according to the link you provided. Its a free upgrade as long as you upgrade within the first year. If you do not upgrade within the first year, then you have to pay the upgrade fee.

 

There's more than one site having this debate, that was just a quick dig. The problem is that Microsoft has not released pricing details for the OS after that one year of free upgrades and every 365 product is a subscription product.

 

I recall MS approved that free upgrade means that you get Windows 10 " until your device's lifespan ends" whatever that means. As for pricing, it should be the same as in the first year who doesn't have ability to upgrade from Windows 7/8.

All else is speculation. They may ask for payment per year or per 3 years. They may sell you Win10 and in 4 years ask for annual year fee. They may give discounts if you bought enough apps. Who knows.

 

Well that's what I said.

Why is that a problem? It's a non issue. Of those who really think W10 is a MUST HAVE, how many of them will wait more than one year to upgrade?
After that first year it will probably cost the same as it does for those who upgrade from XP, sounds plausible to me.

Does anyone think MS suddenly starts raising the prices for Windows? I don't think it's possible, the world isn't that dependant on Windows.

AFAIK, W10 and W365 are two different products. I don't think MS can afford scaring consumers away with high subscription fees. $50 - 100 per year is just hilarious in a world with so many alternatives.

I don't get why people are worrying so much. As if MS will become super evil all of a sudden, just beacuse they have registered "Windows 365" as a trademark. Yeah, it's possible, but until it actually happens, why worry?

Jeez.

 

Double post.

 

Microsoft has always been evil and they've wanted a subscription plan for Windows since the early 2000s. This is nothing new and their Office 365 has been successful and they have the most installed user base of any OS. There is no alternative for most people and they know that. We will have to wait and see what happens.

 

MS has always been accused of being evil, but when it comes to Apple people tend to forgive and forget: "Well, Apple works in mysterious ways"

Of course they want a subscription plan, but the big question is if it's feasible. People aren't prepared to pay that much for it. And yes, there are alternatives.

 

Apple and Microsoft are both terrible. The only real alternative is Linux if you want to get away from them and that's not a viable option for many people. I've used Linux for 15 years off and on and it still isn't refined enough for mainstream use. If you have a decent graphics card, good luck getting hardware acceleration. Any Broadcom WiFi chip needs a proprietary driver to work and even then the performance is terrible. Lots of ethernet chips are not supported out of the box. Apt is the best package management system and it still is too difficult for the average person who is used to point and click or automatic updates to use.

Then there's the whole UEFI with secure boot locking out that option anyway.

Let's face it, for the vast majority of computer users, its Windows or nothing. Even if you are willing to go into OS X or Linux, chances are you will still have to run a VM for those Windows apps...

 

Like I said, Windows 8.1 works for 8 more years, no one is forced to upgrade.

 

Ah but driver support will be killed, DirectX 12 will not be available which means upcoming Xbox One ports will not be playable or will perform even worse than current ports, among other things.

 

Drivers is not a big issue, remember how XP drivers kept on being supported for a very long time. This will happen with W7 and maybe even W8.1 if W10 isn't well received.

We're talking about a specific case here. Someone who runs W8.1 or older and don't want to upgrade for up to eight years, maybe not even upgrading hardware.
Obviously someone who doesn't feel the need to upgrade, and probably doesn't care much about gaming performance.