Windows 10 Upgrade Poll Queston (Please Vote)

Bait, swimming towards it and suddenly breaks away, denied............

http://www.intowindows.com/get-aero-glass-in-windows-10-right-now/

 

Sorry next post I forgot the quote button

 

Were did you get that link that's from November?
look Windows Aero Is in Windows 10
I' am using it check out this
They did not add it back too 10174 I think
Anyway if you are running the preview follow these steps

Go to regedit.exe
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\themes\personalize and set blur behind to 1.

Then restart your PC

Since this is a preview everything is aero except the windows trims that are only plan white into they work those problems

You know you like windows 10 Maybe
I can send you some pics of my desktop to get you in the mood if you want

 

1. If you have ever had issues with black screens, system freezes or other adverse effects, and rolling back a specific update fixed it, it's a problem if you can't
2. It may be easier for Joe User, but why not offer choice? And wait until specific updates or drivers break the machine and Joe User can't use their machine. Then it's not easier any more is it?
3. Aero hasn't been confirmed to be included in Windows 10, but see, you used regedit to enable it in preview. The way Windows is going those "enthusiast" options are being taken away.
4. OS menu system is now a disaster. Hodge-podge of tiles. They are so insistent on tiles on a non-touch system for some reason. It's backward progress, not forward.
5. Unification of updates and drivers makes it a device.
6. How does making it a service make it better? It's just a way to rake in more cash. Singular releases have done just fine with user optional updates.

 

1: It is just a preview not RTM
2: Good Point
3: Right but since it is in regedit then its there just not in the UI yet
4: There are two modes desktop mode and tablet mode
5: I don't get that one
6: Right now it is free and you pay for office if you want

http://www.cnet.com/news/finally-windows-10-is-looking-ready-for-its-big-debut/

 

FYI, if you use media center, , you may be SOL.

 

XBMC/Kodi for the win!!

 

The idea here is not just to win over you 8.0 and above guys, the idea is to get the Windows 7 people over too Windows 10. This is one of the reasons they never grabbed them to begin with.

I too would love to see Windows 10 succeed but changes are needed for it to do so with Windows 7 users, even the older XP converts.

 

MS's issue is that the selling the OS as a product is no longer a feasible method to pull consistent, optimal revenue.

Win7 is a really great OS -- it has a nice aesthetic appearance, good performance and provides any feature most consumers may want. There isn't really a need to upgrade as long as MS continues to provide maintenance updates. To keep consumers purchasing the next windows iteration MS not only needs to create nearly flawless OSes but also incorporate substantial feature additions and aesthetic upgrades. Even if MS can pull that off only part of their consumer base will upgrade, the rest will remain on the old OS until EOL.

With win10 MS needs to create a platform in which they can sell additional products/services and pull in a consistent and adequate revenue stream that will last indefinitely. Ideally this will lead to a very well developed OS in time.

I guess my point is that if you are looking for a windows 7 2.0 + awesome you will be waiting until win7 EOL. The launch of any new MS OS is going to be rough and messy. Its going to hurt consumers more if MS cannot establish an effective revenue model and they lose interest in the consumer market.

That doesn't mean you should pretend to be satisfied with windows 10, however if you cease to be a windows OS consumer its doubtful that MS will bother listening to your voice.

/end essay
Urf. . . I had extra time and went overboard. Sorry.

 

HahA! Yeah that's a long post
I do agree with a lot of it

But sorry I think 7 was not is (as in currently) a great OS and Windows 8 was and still is terrible but Windows 10 is going to rock
as I 'am a insider believe me I know

It takes the strengths of win7 and 8 mostly 7 and rocks
It has a Tablet mode for touch and a keyboard mode for mouse so its perfect all the around

 

TBH with all this pro-W10 spam coming from you in the last little while incl. a glut of new threads and failing to address ppl's legit concerns w/W10, you come across more as a shill than anything else

 

Just about hit it, I'll agree that eventually, as hardware and usage stand, the PC OS model will not need much further optimization. Truth be told though Windows 7 could use a lot of improvement. Scaling, scheduler for non-numa, better vectoring graphics/fonts, and a host of other improvements.

Problem here is so close to release it gets hard to tell between shills and fan-boys with allot of bloat but no proof.

I digress though, as if Windows 8 delivered on its promise and left the desktop alone for KB&M like it originally was headed towards. Well right now I would have A windows PC, phone and tablet. I know quite a few people who would have done the exact same. Mt tablet and phone are about to get renewed again, guess what I will not be buying into?

 

Right on. I'm not quite sure why this clown is getting any mileage at all out of his BS threads. Pretty much all of his posts are nonsense from beginning to end. Oh well.

 

1. It has nothing to do with RTM or preview. I've had black screens and lockups in Win 7 and Win 8 due to some conflict from a security update. With Win 7 or 8 you can uninstall the problematic update, or if you get some feedback ahead of time, choose not to install it at all. But with Win10 it sounds like this isn't an option.
2. 'nuf said
3. Just because it can be activated with a regedit doesn't mean it will be in final release. Win 8 had a Start menu in pre-release, and disappeared at RTM, and it was actually in GUI, here it's a regedit.
4. There are two modes, but they still are forcing the freaking Start Screen mentality instead of offering also the tried and true legacy Start Menu option.
5. A device is a fixed set of hardware and firmware, not much to get.
6. It is free now, but in long run no. It's just a bait and switch. In a couple years everyone will start to pay a monthly charge for their OS.

 

And your source for that is...what?

http://www.winbeta.org/news/stopping-fud-there-no-yearly-subscription-fee-windows-10

You really want the Windows 7 start-menu back? Its the most horrible version ever released...and quite useless as a start-menu.

 

Still nobody knows what it means if you upgrade a component on your PC. Heck even recently, I flashed a new BIOS and Windows asked me to pony up for another key. "No subscription fee" sounds awfully like "No new taxes"...

And what do you mean Windows 7 start-menu is horrible? Where have you been the last few years that tens of millions of people were up in arms about it? That's why there's so many Classic Shell, Start is Back, among many other third party apps replicating the start menu that are making money hand over fist bringing just that type of functionality to their OS.

Having a hierarchical menu to drive through is convenient for users who like to stay organized and find their stuff quickly.

 

1: It is windows you know it Bleeps I think windows has had problems with that for like since 95 I think?
2: Don't understand that one but I do agree with the last post "2:"
3: Good point we well see I hope they keep it in they're but might not
4: Well yes and no because when in tablet mode it focuses on touch and when in keyboard mode it focuses on keyboard and mouse but right still kind or windows 8 based still
5: Right yep!
6: Yeah maybe because you pay for office per month so windows might be free

 

Alright, you got me, it Bleeps?

 

Yeah i' am talking about how Windows S***s and gets a lot error a lot of the time
I don't know how long windows has been know for blue screens
I think windows is been like that since the 95
I don't know thought
windows has got a lot better not to many errors in 8

I can only remember Windows XP very little because when windows 2000 Came out I was only 1Years old
I did not start using windows to 2008; and I did not use vista I loved 7 and now I use 8

 

That explains allot, as you are dealing with an older crowd that not only has been around through many iterations but has more experience than you can shake a stick at. Kidding aside, this does become a double edged sword.

1.) We older loyal patrons want our voices heard. This is about our only format to do exactly that. Knowledge wise it actually is a good thing to wander about here and learn.

2.) The other side of the coin is you and your ilk. TBH this is what M$ has to cater too for a future. This does show they need a grammar check much more than spell check, but I digress as this is a topic for another thread.

In the end it has to win you guys over. Here is the issue as well though, the majority of users are still on Windows 7. This goes, by personal experience at least, for the younger users as well. Windows 10, as it is, stands little chance of doing this. We here have already imparted the knowledge needed by forum and the insider program to get the OS/UI to win over not only us but IMHO the majority of Windows 7 hold outs. To date this information has been largely ignored.

I have to add an edit here; I agree with most where without the hierarchical menu/folder system it becomes laborious finding things. There is just too many disconnects in the hierarchy, at least with 8.1 and it seems further so with Windows 10 from what I remember. Now once you find what you need it is a bit more complex to get back there but it is doable. getting somewhere new can be an issue.

So a suggestion bring in a menu that is based on the Windows 7 one but even better and include a menu side option, like the "computer" one, that brings up your floating metro apps. I know I'll be the first to play with them.

 

Brilliant! Yes, it's like they're trying to revolutionize instead of just evolve. With the gargantuan user base of Windows, you can't just throw out one of the most familiar aspects of an OS and expect people to applaud you. You need to evolve it. It's almost like Win 10 should have come first before Windows 8, with an even more modest adjustment to Start Menu and do as you suggested. Then users may have been a lot more receptive.

 

Not a matter of being right or wrong. It is about having the best compromises within the UI to make it functional for the masses, not revolution that causes a revolt. Windows 8 caused a revolt that shows in market share and Windows 10 is about to do the same. Some of us care if it fails.

Edit; Oh yes, we should buy it because we read this post on a web site about how awesome it is from a person who really does not back anything up by facts but seems to be really cool and connected with us youngsters. (see how bad that actually is?)

 

At least with Win 8 you had third party options to address the whole Start Menu debacle, and in the end it is a reasonable OS. But for Win 10 I'm afraid that there will be no third party savior for offering an opt-in for updates and drivers.

 

I will not be upgrading to Win10. Heck, I can't even run my most important software on Win8. So, I will sit here with Win7 until I can't.

Some things I do require WinXP. I have another laptop for that.

 

Do the latest builds of Windows 10 provide an option to turn off Web Search when you press the Windows key and search? That's pretty much a requirement if I'm going to upgrade to it some day, if not at launch. Too much like how Ubuntu sent all their search results to Amazon for awhile for my tastes. I can't seem to find a way to do it in my freshly-updated Win10 VM.

Also, is it just me or are Metro apps consistently slower to launch than Win32 ones, on both Win8 and Win10? Maybe it's just the splash screen? Is there a way to speed them up?

 

Fed up with MS doing ridiculous things for years, and now trying again with more wrigling and waggling. Among (many) w10 detractors, the update lock-down is king.

7 & 8.1 are good for a long, long time to come.

 

No, because there's no free upgrade for Enterprise.

I will nonetheless have access to Windows 10 Enterprise on the 29th, but I'm not sure if I'll actually make use of it. Clean installing doesn't seem like fun, especially since I doubt that OEMs will have drivers this soon.

 

If WIndows gives a product delay, Gates is either going for bankruptcy or government bailout. Windows is NEVER going to be ANY better than Win 7 except things like USB 15 when vendors still cannot support USB 3 yet.

ALL Bill's ideas have fell through EXCEPT the basic Mac software design he stole from Apple and successfully translated to DOS (as of Win7.) It's all a pipe dream for anything better. All they can do at this point is reroute all your data to cloud and charge you to use your pc to do anything. Oh boy, that sounds Windows-licious!

Maybe the US Government can do what the European court did to Windows: make an eternal Windows 7 and a Window anything else for Bill Gates groupies to waste their time and money on. It's our only hope. The more twisted his scoliosis becomes, the more evil the richest man in the world becomes: nothing else matters except to make one of his ridiculous schemes work - NOTHING!

 

Hello,
This Is For Everybody In This Post
I hate windows 8.1 so much so if you guys think I bleep with PCs I don't


You know
I think windows 10 is good
and I don't have to listen to anybody but me
if I think it is good i' am upgrading
If you listen to peoples opinion's more then your own
you will wined up nowhere



Lets put it this way
Windows 10 is Free so look who cares if it is the worst OS out there which it is not
but like said who cares use it and then when and if they start charging you to use it
and you guys are to Bleeping cheap to pay then hey not my problem.

 

My time is not free, my opportunities are not forever, my life is not worth wasting on cheap fraud marketing tricks, Windows 10 is not the only game in town, Windows 10 evidently is going to make Window 8.0 look good. RIP Windows 10, RIP Microsoft (after 2020.) ymmv

If your time is free and you use Win 8.1, then we have nothing to discuss.

 

Office 365 is only a good deal if you're actually using 5 copies of it. For one person, it costs $120/year, which is like buying the Home & Student version of Office every year and then immediately having your software stop working when you stop paying every month. I'll just buy office products once and keep them until they don't work anymore, thanks. Personally, I don't see any dealbreaker improvements from Office 2007 to 2013, and I prefer the 2007 interface.

Windows as a subscription is a wonderful idea for Microsoft and the big companies that already pay for volume licensing, but it's a horrible idea for end users. I don't want anyone but me to have the ability to make my entire system stop functioning, and that's what Windows as a subscription would enable Microsoft to do.

 

Good news - msft is giving it away os to old pc users

Bad news - video cards are crashing on Win 10.

Too bad video cards ARE the technology in laptops. 5 years to catch up or amnesty for Win 7?

 

That is my trepidation about the whole subscription thing. It was a bad deal when I only wanted one license. I bought a significantly discounted copy of 2010 that went on sale before 365 was set to come out and will use that and keep hoping a better option comes along. I don't want to pay for office every year when I would have used it for 3-4 years previously.

I'm still a little torn about updating. My windows 8 is a pro copy, so that gets me around the biggest issue, but it's nice to wait and let the other big issues get partially addressed. I enjoy experimenting and will probably give it a try eventually, moreso a question of when.

 

Even with Windows 10 being free of any monetary cost whatsoever (I have nothing but Dell hardware with Windows 7 COAs so I'm covered across all of them) I won't be using Windows 10 as a daily runner. I've been part of the Insider program since before it even started officially (helps to have been a contractor for Microsoft for decades) and I swear I cannot find one single thing to like about Windows 10 - not even the fact that it's free - over Windows 7. Not one dadgummed thing that's any kind of improvement over what Windows 7 still offers to this day.

I'm pretty pissed at Microsoft for just dropping Windows 7 like the proverbial hot potato, and change just for the sake of change is never really a good thing.

I'll be running Windows 7 probably for as long as it works and I don't see that becoming an issue anytime soon.

 

Amen to that, brother...

 

I've got full partition backups upon backups daily. Why not, worst that happens is I restore my drive back to the last backup.

 

Arnold Schwarzenegger was asked if he wanted to upgrade to Windows 10.

He replied, 'I still love Vista baby'.

 

Msft straight up $1.5/share so far today (that's a lot for that behemoth.) The quiet startup has begun. How long can they string this out before users are shipped copies and the software is reviewed? The media is perplexed now as what to expect next: they have no clue.

Stay tuned to this Bat Channel. The Chinese are certainly wary investors. My hat is off to them for perfect timing before the storm. There is still not one specific word of hype except, "It's never been free before." Wow, that has me impressed so far, really.

If Mr. Gates break-danced in his virtual reality glasses, I think that would get the startup going nicely, imo.

 

Windows 10 is not *FREE*. I can't just download and install and have instant Win10 registered. You lose your previous license and it converts to the Win10 license so it cost you whatever you spent on your original license and have little recourse. Well I guess 30 days, but not sure how easy it is to revert back. And maybe your initial conversion went well, but if some updates in the next month or so break your machine you have no recourse.

 

No, thats not true. You have 30 days to roll-back easily, but then the old Windows folders are deleted. The key is not changed or lost. You just can´t use the key for an Windows 7 or 8.1 installation while using the upgraded Windows 10. Thats all.

Its merely a press of a button in the Settings app...

 

Okay guys, time to move to linux. I could have just eaten those M$ razor shards if only of dx12 in the future. But this just does it in win 10. Luckily, i started triple booting linux over 3 years ago. Mostly, only used windows for games and photoshop. Any security test or code that I had to write, I would go straight to linux. Then the debacle with the NSA leaks happened. It seems like people have totally forgotten about security these days. It's like they don't care at all, though I suspect its mostly because most users today have become average joes who know very little about computers, as evidenced by the apple philosophy. First it was google with chrome sendings tons of stats to google for no reason at all, now its M$. Even linux isn't safe with systemd trying to shoehorn stuff in, though luckily most developers hate it.

In windows 10:

1) You will have an advertisement ID that applications can use to give "suggestions" to you. i.e full blown ads on the main menu. This is inbuilt in windows. *Oh wow you can turn if off*. Very soon there will be so many privacy options that people will have more trouble disabling them in effort and choose to give up. They have a Candy Crush link on the main menu. We're doomed.

2) If you want to play Solitare, you have to pay $1.49 a month. FOR SOLITARE. !!!!! RAGE!!!!! . Oh solitare also has ads "to improve your experience".

3) M$ supplies updates to you via P2P on by default. Yes, its on by default. To turn it off you have to go into settings again. OH btw, did you know that this system that was added in by M$ was developed by a company called Pando Media Networks which was aquired by M$ some years earlier. WAIT, where have we seen this company before. Pando Media Booster was an app installed with League of Legends as a malware acting as a Botnet and caused an outrage. Here, have a biscuit:
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4017003

Wow, the same company would never do such bad things under M$ would it? M$ is doing good things for people.

4) M$ is heavily promoting dx12 adoption but dx12 isnt coming to either windows 7 or 8. Maybe windows 7 I could understand as having too different a code and its hard to directly replace WDDM 1.0 but windows 8.1 has practically the same code base as windows 10.

 

I'll stick with Windows 7x64 Ult Sp1 as my main stay until Windows 13...or 16....

 

Why do i get the feeling that you're really a troll?

I never seen anyone that defends windows 10 so hard as you do. At least explain why its so good and back it up with actual facts.

 

Gamers, don't forget about Vulkan API (aka OpenGL Next Gen). I'm finding old games look like ****e on DirectX 9 or 10 compared to OpenGL. I wager the same performance for DirectX 12 vs Vulkan.

Windows 10 comes with DirectX 12. So what? It's not like you can't get an equal or better experience using Vulkan on another OS ecosystem!

 

Yes, things like this is symptom of deep trouble.

& with this great 'free windows', they only want $15 to play dvd's >
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...t-it-makes-you-pay-to-use-its-DVD-player.html lol

 

It's really a shame that the poll closed before more people had a chance to witness the fallout of the Windoze OS X debacle. I think those numbers might look very different, and far more grim for Micro$lop, if the poll were still open.

But, man, the media sure is drinking the Redmond Kool-Aid, LOL. "Overwhelming success" they say. I wonder if they will publish any stats on the number of downgrades back to Windows 7 and 8 within the 30-day window for repentance?

 

I think the success is the amount of Windows 8.x machines that are going over. The W7 rate is probably much lower. Probability is that amount will not even make up for 8.x users that do not come over for privacy, driver or broken updates issues. You just can not listen to the hype.

What you need to listen too is the market share but even that with a grain of salt. This time M$ is being smart with the staged release as it can control market share growth a bit better. This is why it could take up to a year to start being able to accumulate the real numbers. If they let the flood gates go wide open it would be an entirely different story, why let the open market bear your future when you can control it?

As far as polls, I started a more comprehensive one. It is much more informative.