Windows 10 automatic updates ruins Twitch feed

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/04/windows-10-updates-ruining-pro-gaming-streams

I would seriously throw something if that happened to me. If Microsoft is going to force updates down our throats, they should at least have an update blacklist when the system is running 3D applications. That's common sense and easy to implement just looking for directx hooks...

Here's a 20 second cut of the video

http://oddshot.tv/shot/fl0m-2016050255729957

 

Pure and Simple, you are not in control of your PC, Microsoft is. They install what they want, when they want. Windows 10 behaves just like Malware behaves, and I treat it as such. Friends don't let friends run it, either. Only difference between Windows 10 and a virus, viruses are efficiently written and actually work.

 

See here's the problem though... I've never had Windows 10 do this to me. My desktop is a Home license and my laptop is a Pro license and I've always had it prompt me to reboot after installing updates, it has never done it automatically and the guy says that he had it set up to prompt him as well. As much hate as Windows 10 gets, I'm running it on my desktop 24/7 because I just frankly don't want to buy another 7 or 8.1 license and it has had no issues other than nVidia drivers misbehaving which happens in Windows 7 on my laptop as well.

 

I think this has been posted, but kind of funny..

 

Yeah there's actually a link to that in the article haha. She handled it pretty well though lol

 

Exactly this, i haven't had any issues with it for the past year or so since it came out and i upgraded. Never had any issues on my desktop nor on my 2 Laptops. Other than lower bench scores, it has been working just fine for me.
But i did have to spend a good amount of time, getting rid of a lot of crap that MS enables by default and of course the tracking crap.

 

Unless you have ENTERPRISE, you'll at some time get this crap. And it will interrupt or ruin what you're doing. I don't have to put up with this crap whatsover, as I run Linux now.

 

It's because they changed the way the forced W10 update works. I'm actually gonna make a thread about that now.

 

That's for the forced upgrade pop-up which has done that for some time now. This particular feed was interrupted by Windows 10 updating itself on a machine already running it. Every time my machine updates, I get a pop-up that says that a restart has been scheduled and I can decide what to do with it from there.

 

Oh, okay.

Well you gotta remember that windows 10 resets lots of its options on update/restart rather often, and it might've simply reset his settings.

 

Only does it when there is a major milestone update - who knows if he was running the Insider Preview?

 

I have had Windows 10 and it's updates installed behind my back, which made critical functions go down when needed. My applications go beyond playing Games, when these applications go down, revenue and income decrease, money is lost. Overtime gets paid. It is called WORK. It is called music, liners and commercials must play on time. Satellite feeds must be recorded on time, As they don't always get emergency feeds on demand. It is called working for a living. And is why Microsoft will be defunct soon unless these shenanigans GO AWAY FOR GOOD! Otherwise, LINUX will take over in CRITICAL functions which must be reliable most of the time. If I CAN NOT REMOTELY LOG IN SECURELY, and my staffers do so, I don't need that OS. DIE Windows 10, DIE, And eliminate ALL TELEMETRY and forced automatic updates which behave like all MALWARE. This practice is how BUSINESS CUSTOMERS who get WORK DONE go elsewhere. DIE YOU POS, DIE! And it's all BUSINESS, all who GET WORK DONE, we don't play GAMES. We need reliable, stable, no MALWARE from Windows 10. And unlike MAC OSX, we need tools, not YUPPIE CHIC TOYS!

 

If you're a business customer, you should be using Pro which doesn't suffer from this issue anyway.

Start Menu, search for 'gpedit' and run the Group Policy Editor. Expand Computer Configuration in the left-hand pane, and navigate to Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update. Double-click Configure Automatic Updates in the list, select the Enabled radio button, and in the left-hand box select 2 - Notify for download and notify for install. Now click OK, and you'll be notified whenever there are updates

http://www.itpro.co.uk/operating-systems/25802/fourteen-windows-10-problems-and-how-to-fix-them-3

Disable Windows Defender as well and no more automatic updates at all.

If you're using the home version for running a business then you're on the wrong edition for your needs.

I don't like Microsoft shoving updates down my throat either but I have Pro so I can wrest control from Microsoft - Home is meant for grandma who would never install any updates and for other users that don't have computer skills. 10 Home was built with the everyday user in mind, Pro for power users, and Enterprise for big businesses. In all actuality, having a system that is out of date is a security risk, this is the same reason iOS, OSX, and Linux will all constantly bug you to update by default as well (Linux just shoves a notification on the desktop but the behavior depends on the distro).

 

That's all helpful info, but I think you are glossing over the fact that now people need to have Windows Professional at home, which is a waste of money for everyone that doesn't need to connect to a Domain Server.

Few small businesses need a Domain Server

That's really the cut-off for deciding what version of Windows to purchase. If you are in a corporate environment, or working from home connecting to a corporate VPN, you should have Enterprise / Professional depending on the company.

But, for the most part noone needs Professional, which costs 2x+ buying it - which everyone will need to purchase it moving forward even after the GWX crap is disabled - we still need control over the other data gathering processes and telemetry connections back to MS.

That's all BS. Noone should need to spend more to get the privacy we already had with previous releases.

So, in summary, it's a huge problem that isn't solved by making everyone run Windows Professional.

 

Windows home editions have always been meant for home users, its not my fault that people are too cheap to buy what they need.

The point is moot anyway - http://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

Most everyone got the OS for free and don't have the right to complain. If you want to upgrade your free version of Home to Pro through normal channels, you pay 99 dollars (less than the 119 retail for home) to upgrade to pro. There are a lot of strategies Microsoft has employed with 10 that I don't agree with but Home vs Pro isn't one of them, especially since the operating system was offered as a free upgrade.

 

Ethrem I hate to keep disagreeing with you. but you just keep saying some really off base stuff about this subject.

Everyone paid for the OS that was upgraded "for free" - for those that had Pro it was a heavy investment, for those that had other other versions it was still a cost they incurred, including MS hijacking their hardware with Windows 10.

They could have all kept going with their Windows 7/8 installations without wasting time on Windows 10, and it would have cost them a lot less time and money (an upgrade to Windows 10 Pro), and a lot less trouble and disappointment.

Instead MS sold everyone they could on dedicating their hardware and OS - which cost them hundreds or thousands of dollars, to allow MS complete control over their computers.

Not only sold everyone, hard court press forced people to upgrade day after day, month after month, going through many shady methods - including the recent non-terminating dialog that quitting meant "go ahead with a scheduled install".

Noone knew that at the beginning of course. Everyone expected the usual MS crappy software problems, but they didn't count on having their privacy invaded, or a constant parade of UI, advertising, and malware installations from MS.

They didn't expect computer software forced on them - upgrade after upgrade bringing more useless UI changes every time - and now with FREE ADVERTISING right in their face whenever they go into the Start Menu.

With the latest Update everyone gets 10 Program Icons in their Start Menu, 5 complete applications downloaded and installed without permission or consultation, 1 already confirmed with a Malware payload - from the MS Store. And you have to BUY IT TO GET RID OF IT. Classic Ransomware tactics.

It is your fault for trying to excuse your support of Windows 10, telling people how wonderful it is, and then having disaster after disaster continue throughout the last year, and you still make excuses and sell Windows 10 as a good thing to install.

You even just posted a shady Windows 10 license source, how is that legal?

Why not post legit downgrade instructions for Windows 7 and Windows 8 license sources so people can downgrade their Windows 10 install on new machines?

You keep pushing Windows 10. Now you suggest people pay $100+ for a Windows 10 Pro Upgrade, so their "Free" OS will stop screwing with them.

You keep sending innocent people into the snarling maw of Microsoft and the Windows 10 nightmare... why?

So take some responsibility, don't blame people for not understanding just how screwed they are with Windows 10 without Windows 10 Pro, come to that realization yourself, get rid of Windows 10, and really help people the best way we can with Windows 10 problems, get rid of Windows 10!!

You're a good guy, and you have been messed with by MS with Windows 10 just like everybody else. Why keep putting up with it?

Windows 10 is going to get worse and worse, it's not going to get better until people start dropping it and complaining, that's the only way to fix this, without government intervention.

Friends don't let Friends install Windows 10

 

My computer issues weren't Windows 10 related. My laptop was using 7 and my PC I never bothered to do a clean install after upgrading to Windows 10 which was my fault.

Windows 10 is a good OS. People have been turned off because of the GWX campaign but the OS itself is fantastic.

As for posting a link to OEM keys, its not illegal at all and its something Microsoft would have put a stop to years ago if they really had a problem with it. You can go on Newegg and buy OEM copies.

My suggestion to upgrade to Pro is because obviously Home isn't the right version.

I personally wouldn't bother downgrading back to 7/8.1 until after July 29th when the GWX campaign will go away. You could wake up to Windows 10 again. I don't like Microsoft's tactics with Windows 10 but if you are using Windows 10 and have an issue with automatic updates, I'm obviously going to point to the obvious solution and recommend you shell out for Pro. Microsoft is well within their rights to force updates on a free upgrade. Your point about people paying for the old OS? Guess what, they can remove the free upgrade and their old OS will install and activate just like it did before the Windows 10 upgrade (whether it be an OEM BIOS key or a regular key). Microsoft is trusting that people will not take advantage and run both their 10 digital entitlement and their original OS at the same time rather than invalidating their product keys.

Again, I like Windows 10. It's especially nice that a full 10 install doesn't involve hours installing updates and other than some early teething issues, my experience and the experience of others who don't have a chip on their shoulder or hardware that never should have been running it (this part is Microsoft's fault without a doubt) has been largely positive. So no, I won't recommend everyone running 10 in its current state to downgrade anymore because Microsoft has been hard at work polishing the OS. The feedback hub is something Microsoft actually listens to and the more people on Windows 10, the more resources they can dedicate to continuing to improve the operating system.

Like it or not, everyone will be forced to use 10 with new machines as companies drop support for legacy operating systems so get used to the idea of Windows 10 because it's not going anywhere.

Every time there is a major Windows release, there is always a major uproar that coincides with that release - it happened with 3.1 to 95, 95 to 98, 98 to XP, even more uproar than we are seeing with 10 when Vista came out, again with XP to 7, and 7 to 8. Considering how supremely dominant Windows is and always has been, that's to be expected. At the end of the day though, it will become a moot point very quickly and with the massive adoption (and the general public actually liking the OS), good luck with driver support in the very near future. Better hold on to your machine tight because Windows 10 will soon be the only option for new ones.

 

My issue

This happened due to Windows 7 Pro being force updated to Windows 10 Pro. That is still a problem. If we can''t patch our systems without worry about drive by crap installed, all trust is lost. Also bear in mind, our broadcast station software is NOT SUPPORTED BY WINDOWS 10 PERIOD! My issue is with Windows 7 Pro telemetry backdoors. This is a Business. Interrupting that business costs revenue. Malware techniques used to push upgrades (free and unwanted) is MALWARE. This very practice is Ransomware. It is not acceptable. Our Windows 7 Pro must be used until we get the software we use supported by an alternative OS and not interrupted by this crap. This hardware and software investment, the investment in training from engineering to operations staff was costly. P.S. This operation is and will be converted to Linux, and software packages to Rivendell and AV Linux very, very soon.

 

Windows 10 upgrades have been causing hell for businesses, I won't deny that. In my opinion, Pro versions should have been left out of it. GWX should have offered and then gone away for good when told no. I can see Microsoft landing in court for this push they did on business customers. Whether they'll actually face any substantial damages in the US is another story altogether.