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    Windows 10 is so rude.

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by tonyr6, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. tonyr6

    tonyr6 Notebook Consultant

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    I am starting to not like Windows 10. Everything about it that I tweaked I love except the annoying rude thing it does when it updates your drivers without your user permission. I installed yet another update late night after my computer rebooted it was set to install at 5:30 AM as it woke me up. Well after it installed another update but the worse part was it updated that horrible Realtek audio driver again even though I disabled it using the Microsoft tool as it was disabled for weeks.

    I hid the driver using there tool and disabled driver updates in the Device Installation settings yet the horrible driver rudely installed itself while I was listening to music. The music crapped out and then when I restarted foobar2000 the audio was super loud and sounded crappier. I of course removed the driver and rebooted and then it did it again, installed the Realtek audio driver.

    Well I spend a good 2 hours in the middle of the night trying to fix this crap. What finally fixed it for now was running the disable driver tool and hiding the Realtek audio driver again. It seems that whenever this crappy or any other driver is updated from Microsoft it will automatically reinstall the "latest" crap driver even if you are using a perfectly fine driver which is the "HD Audio Driver" which sounds great. It does not care if you are doing something important like recording or mastering audio or video it just rudely ruins whatever it want to do.

    If this crap is not fixed by October with its next big update and I can't disable automatic driver updates. I like to use my own drivers that work. I don't give a crap if they are older than I am giving my Window computer to my grandmother and I am finally going to switch to OSX where things work right.
     
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    That tool to hide updates is useless.

    Example:

    You see a driver update for your Audio device, you hide it! Great! that goes well..........

    Problem:

    A new driver update other than the one you hid shows up, so you run the tool again, but it won't even see that new update since you hid the initial driver update

    Outcome: your system is fux0red

    Resolution: Format and go back to Windows 7
     
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  3. tonyr6

    tonyr6 Notebook Consultant

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    My computer has windows 8.1 and I might go back to this or even better get a Mac which just works.
     
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    Splintah Notebook Deity

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    Yea the way Microsoft is taking the OS is totally the wrong direction. I am hoping SteamOS really takes off and linux gets better first day big name release support.
     
  5. tonyr6

    tonyr6 Notebook Consultant

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    Or I might even switch over to a Chomebook. All I do on the computer to listen to music and watch videos and I do that mosty in Chrome already. I don't game on the PC that is why I have a big screen TV and a PS4.
     
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    That takes time but it's all heading in the right direction. I've noticed that almost every new game I click on nowadays on Steam runs in Linux. As for the AAA titles also supporting Linux Day 1 alongside Windows, that will eventually come as more games are sold on Steam and installed on a Linux computer. It will get the attention of the large publishers.
     
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    Another set of crappy Realtek drivers were pushed to me today. I hid them using the tool but I was still forced to install them first. They are a bit better but still not great. The full blast sound level is fixed but they still have no bass. They still make my $99 Bose speakers sound like a cheap $9 no name brand speakers. I removed them again. Windows update should leave me alone until the push the next crappy Realtek audio drivers. What peeves me is that it leaves all my other drivers alone it only keeps trying to install the horrible Realtek audio drivers. 90% of my computer time is listening to music. Why can't Microsoft just leave me alone and let me use my own audio driver.
     
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    .....or go back to Windows 7, where everything also works right?
     
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    Apollo13 100% 16:10 Screens

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    I see two solutions: (1) put up with it until they either get a decent driver, or your computer is old enough you don't get updates - both of which could be awhile, or (2) go back to Windows 8.1 if you're still in the 30-day free downgrade window. That does sound like a pretty annoying problem, especially if it's happening twice a week. 8.1 really isn't that bad these days, so I'd probably go with that - you can always re-upgrade until next July if Windows 10 starts knocking people's socks off.
     
  10. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Even with an older computer some updates still want to come in. This such as touchpad, video card etc..
     
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    Yep. I've been wanting that too. Valve really needs to start pushing game publishers and Intel and Nvidia and AMD to support SteamOS. But there still needs to be a DirectX equivalent. OpenGL is OK, but it still needs a lot of development.
     
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    This goes back to the device mentality. If you just use the gaming laptop for games then who cares what the telemetry etc. is? IMHO this would be fine in the home version but at least make it where the pro version is for business machines and the option to be devoid of telemetry or other privacy issues.
     
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    Well I feel my internet is slower with Windows 10, there is like a 2 sec lag before a website would start loading.......don't know if it's related to all the bandwidth been sucked by the Telemetry or not but I'm so happy I'm back to Windows 7 FTW
     
  14. TANWare

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    I did not have a perceivable lag once all was loaded. Getting it all started was a good 2 to 3 times longer overall, why I am not sure but it was much slower to boot to a usable desktop.