Windows 10 to force UEFI and Secure Boot on laptops?

6/9/16 - the mobile part most likely refers to Windows 10 Mobile, the replacement for Windows Phone, not laptops.

Does anyone have any more information on this? If this slide is correct, laptops shipping with the Anniversary Update will be required to have UEFI with Secure Boot enabled AND unable to be turned off?



http://www.extremetech.com/computin...re-requirements-for-the-first-time-since-2009

Its not surprising if it's true but I'm having a hard time verifying it elsewhere. A number of us have seen this coming for a long time where Secure Boot is forced down our throats but if this is true, its the kiss of death for Windows 7, OS X, and the vast majority of Linux distributions on laptops in the coming months.

@Mr. Fox you have any info on this?

I thought this died back in 2015 but maybe Microsoft was waiting to spring it until the free upgrade period was over?

Either way, my P377SM-A shipped without a Windows 8 sticker and with Secure Boot completely disabled so obviously not all manufacturers care about the certification sticker but mainstream ones like Dell, HP, etc certainly prominently display them.

 

Well, secure boot is supported on most linux distro for about a few years now.
I have no problems installing them with secure boot enabled.
With some exception with a few older systems, but they have been resolved.

But that requirement looks like they trying to encourage others to support/standardize full hardware encryption. (cough bitlocker cough)

 

Win10 mobile means Phones I suppose. 99% sure.

 

If so, may Microsoft get forced into "Secure Boot" of their market share, their wealth, and their CEO's golden parachute.

 

I'll agree on the first two points but the executives will still get their bailouts. It's happened before at other companies and it will happen again.


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W10 mobile requires the manufacturer to not make it possible to turn secure boot off.
With W10 desktop it's up to manufacturers if they want to allow secure boot to turn off.

I don't see why you should be worried. It has been like this for a while now.

 

Those who want to install Linux or alternative operating systems will disagree, some of these OS options do not play nice with secure boot, though many distros don't have a problem with running one.

 

Which manufacturers disallow secure boot to be turned off?

 

Soon there won't be any who will on laptops. Some manufacturers have allowed secure boot to be turned off, Asus one of them. Many of the business brands also do.

 

I think you should edit your post, given that it's not what the quote says. No need to scare people..

 

What are you talking about? The image clearly shows that secure boot must not be able to be disabled on mobile.

 

I'm talking about Windows 10 Desktop, as in what you use in a notebook. You can't run Windows 7 or OS X on a Windows 10 Mobile device.

 

It doesn't specific windows phone, it says windows mobile without any quantification. There would be no reason to bloat up a handheld device with UEFI since the hardware is handled by the kernel. I guess we will see when the anniversary update comes out and the new machines follow.

 

It's not called Windows Phone anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_Mobile

 

Okay you're right, it's such an insignificant mobile OS I don't follow anything about it. Still seems odd to use UEFI on a mobile device though but I do see that ARM support was added to the specification back in 2009 so who am I to argue.