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    Windows 10 upgrade. Yes no Maybe so

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Player2, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. Player2

    Player2 Notebook Evangelist

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    I know some of you guys are already using windows 10 or at least test driving it.
    For those that aren't using it do you plan on upgrading to 10 when it becomes available.?
    Do you plan on waiting a while to see how it works out first.?
    Do you plan on sticking with your windows 7 or 8 .?
    The reason I ask is if nvidia can screw up driver updates so bad can you amagin a whole operating system update.
    Just seams like a recipe for disaster for those who decide to jump on it right away.
    I know the early adopters are the ones that are going to help fix the bugs and issues.
    But are you willing to take that chance.
    I plan on waiting until bugs are fixed and it seams to be stable before making the move.
    What's everyone else thinking.?
     
  2. Cakefish

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    Yes.
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  3. seamon

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    Yes.
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  4. killkenny1

    killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    I'm already using 10 on my T100 and once it comes out I'm gonna upgrade from Windows 8 to 10, but my lappy with Windows 7 will stay 7.
     
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  5. tijo

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    I plan to upgrade all my Windows 8.1 rigs, but not as soon as it comes out, I'll wait a little to see if there are any issues. For my Windows 7 rigs, I haven't decided yet.

    As far as OS'es being extremely mangled at launch, I'd expect most things to be stable with third party software causing most of the issues. Still I don't expect everything to be smooth at launch, hence why I'll wait it out a couple of months before upgrade. It'll also give me time to decde how I want to go about the upgrading. Whether I'll do the in place upgrade or find some way to clean install the upgrade.
     
  6. Player2

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    I agree with you on that one.
    Windows 7 is going to be a hard one to beat.
    I think they should of stuck with windows 7 and just improved on it with Dx12 and all the other enhancements that windows 10 will bring to the table. Mankind has been pretty good throughout history of taking something that works great and instead of simply improving on original design they change everything and make it more complicated and in some cases function worse than it did before.
    Example: alienware.
    By that I mean what alienware has done with there lineup after the 2013 models.

    These are just my opinions.
     
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  7. thegh0sts

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    i'm holding out till drivers are available for the AW17...even if it's from the component manufacturer.
     
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    I am definitely upgrading to 10, but I might not do it day 1, I might wait to make sure gaming is stable.
     
  10. hfm

    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    Grrr... dupe.. site has been responding erratically lately.
     
  11. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

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    Yes.
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    No.

    I'll update the minute the final version is available.... no worries, expect it to work great, and excited to try it!

    I'd try out an early version but I know some drivers still need a bit more time.
     
  12. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Yes.
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    Windows 10 is Windows 7 "flattened", but not in a bad way, like how Apple messed up OS X Yosemite and a large population doesn't want to upgrade. (Helvetica Neue as a UI font? Seriously, Apple?) The new icons are refreshing, but still nicely detailed instead of just being lifeless.

    There is nearly nothing left of Windows 8's useless Start Screen. M$ is apparently even bringing Aero back, and there's this new feature called Task View that shows you an overview of all your open windows. If any of you have used OS X's Mission Control/Exposé, you'll know what I mean. That's very useful and makes live very easy when you have ten or more windows open and want to switch quickly instead of Alt+Tabbing up to nine times.

    The only irritating thing is that M$ still has two settings menu - one Modern UI, and one still as the older Control Panel. However, several options have been moved off the latter into the former.

    As for gaming performance, I've only tried to run TW3, and for some reason it does not work. I can launch the game and click "Continue", but the cutscene does not play and I cannot play the game at all. I'll try it with other games and report back.

    As far as stability issues go, the only gripe was upgrading from build 10074 to 10130 - the upgrade stalled, and I had to download the whole thing again.

    Now, if only Synaptics made a decent multi-touch driver so that three fingers up would open Task View. The surprising thing? There's an OS X driver for hackintosh-ed laptops that has better scrolling and multi-touch support for up to three fingers (except pinch to zoom). See here.
     
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  13. KING19

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    I really dont see a good reason for me to update when my current laptop with windows 8.1 (with Classic Shell) has been completely stable since day 1, even after a couple of reformats due to HP repairs. I might try it on my old laptop with windows 7 and see how it is
     
  14. Cakefish

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    It's the primary reason why I am reluctant to replace my Nexus 5, despite the camera and battery leaving much to be desired. I just can't stand to be running an older version of an OS, knowing that there is a more recent version available.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  15. baii

    baii Sone

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    Yes for my own machine, unless it is infested with bugs. Though I don't know how they can f up something that is essentially just a upgraded win 8.1.

    No, maybe never, for my family's machines.

    P.S I see many comments of driver, but other than video driver/touchpad/touch w.e (which no reason 8.1 ones wont work), MS OS driver is almost da best.
     
  16. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    Yes.
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    It's free, so why not? Microsoft cannot afford to fail this time.
     
  17. Cakefish

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    Windows 10 is just an improved version of 8.1 which I already get along with fine. There is no reason whatsoever for me to put off updating!

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  18. Player2

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    I was wondering how would upgrading to windows 10 affect my warranty on my windows 8 laptop.?
    Warranty is pretty much just for hardware right.? It shouldn't really matter what software I'm using.
    I know some companies will use whatever they can to get out of honoring warranty.
     
  19. Ionising_Radiation

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    Shouldn't affect the warranty at all. If they do get out of honouring the warranty by citing that you upgraded your Windows, you can file for liability... You should have some sort of Lemon Law.
     
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  20. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    if there's a modded inf for the latest driver then i am literally ALL IN!
     
  21. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Windows 7 for the primary machine for now. I will backup and upgrade my P79 C2Q machine just too try it out. I am not one of those that will just say no too say no on the upgrade. So it will get its chance to impress.

    My biggest concern is since there is no more primary release versions as they decide to change the UI we will be forced into the changes with no say at all. It will be no longer where we can just not purchase into the change/upgrade.
     
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  22. karasahin

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    This.
     
  23. Ethrem

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    Yes.
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    My reasoning though is that I have Windows 8.1 Pro licenses so I'll be able to control what updates get installed and when. If I had purchased home editions, I would not be upgrading until Microsoft either back tracked on forced updates or someone found a way around it.
     
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  24. Hidef1080

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    My 8.1 Pro will be updated as soon as I get Win 10 Pro.
    My 7 Pro will more than likely stay Win 7. I use Media Center on that machine and Win 10 Pro will not have Media Center anymore.
     
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  25. thegh0sts

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    the only thing that's stopping me is as modded inf for the latest win 10 nvidia driver.
     
  26. Ethrem

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    I don't really get why nVidia doesn't just do like they do with OS X and try to initialize anything with their vendor ID 10de as a video card...
     
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  28. Delta_V

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    Same here, although I might end up waiting a few weeks to see if there are any serious bugs, and then go from there (I need my laptop for work, so I'd rather wait for any major issues to be dealt with)

    If I was stuck with the Home edition, I would not be upgrading either. Absolutely would not deal with any forced-upgrade BS. Fortunately, my university participates in the DreamSpark program, and I got a free copy of 8.1 Pro when I got my new notebook.
     
  29. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    No
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    One thing for certain is that I will need to have a machine for school by the fall (Calculus course is ENTIRELY electronic). So by September I will have either a Surface Pro 3 or Surface Pro 4.

    How Windows 10 performs on said machine will determine if I leave Windows 7 on the 2 laptops and 2 desktops I manage, or jump them up to Windows 10.
     
  30. thegh0sts

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    I'm running the insider preview and i am wondering if i can get a full upgrade to RTM? maybe...
     
  31. Ethrem

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    No. It will stop functioning when RTM launches. You will have to install 7 or 8.1 and do the upgrade like everyone else or purchase the retail version.
     
  32. alexhawker

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    Already answered in another thread...
     
  33. Pirx

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    No upgrades of any of my machines (which are all at Windows 7, of course). If I get a new laptop/DTR, it will be ordered and configured with Windows 7 as well, of course. If I decide to get a tablet (Microsoft Surface Pro 4, potentially), then that one will come with Windows 10.
     
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    I have to try it out on at least one machine. There is just no way for me to give honest opinions on something I have not at least tried. My reservations here lean much more towards whatever they see the future holds for both the OS and UI. It will all just get crammed down our throats period.
     
  35. thegh0sts

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    the insider preview booting to a black screen with no backlight so i have reverted to windows 8.1.
     
  36. Alex1933

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    Well personally can't wait for it. I mainly hope that DX12 is all its cranked up to be . Guess we will just have to wait and see and hope for immediate support from manufacturers .
     
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    Yes.
    Yes.
    No.

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    You will have a long wait to find out. I am sure it will be a while before games support DX12 and if all goes as usual DX12.1 will be well out before the first version gains any major traction. Just the nature of the beast. It also tends to work in their favor as then all the synthetics and specialized situations can be touted.
     
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    For those that aren't using it do you plan on upgrading to 10 when it becomes available.? - No
    Do you plan on waiting a while to see how it works out first.? - Yes
    Do you plan on sticking with your windows 7 or 8 .? - No, because my Windows 8 expires and I don't have Windows 7. Might get a new license of those, or might go to 10, not sure.

    I plan to wait awhile, read a John Siracusa style review or two (yeah, I know he did OS X reviews, but that style), and make a decision later. If it's a free upgrade from 7/8 for a year, no need to jump on the bandwagon right away. That will also give time to see if DX 12 is worth caring about in the near future.

    Basically, if it's a clear upgrade for desktop power users with no touchscreens from 7/8, then sure. If it's a downgrade, nope. If it's a sidegrade, it's hard to say.
     
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    I'll probably image onto a spare ssd and "upgrade" that to 10. If it's not broken, I'll try it out and make a decision then. Either way, I'll be able to roll back if needed by wiping that ssd, and in theory that should let me clean install with an ISO if I end up liking it.


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  41. Splintah

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    If only for directx 12 I will do it and also Microsoft seems to be doing something weird with the oculus rift compatibility which might necessitate it as well
     
  42. Player2

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    For what it's worth I emailed exotic pc and asked them how upgrading my clevo from 8.1 to 10 would affect my warranty. And they emailed me back rather quickly saying that upgrading to 10 would in no way affect my warranty what so ever.
    Just for those that were curious.
     
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    Hello! Can windows 7 be freely upgraded to win 10?
     
  44. ajkula66

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    Presuming one owns a legal copy, yes.
     
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    ok thanks! I wouldnt worry anymore if i go for win 7. Thanks again!
     
  46. Raidriar

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    Nope. Tried the preview, didn't like it. Still not as great as 7, so I went back.
     
  47. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    I guess that you've never heard of Windows ME, Vista...or Windows 8 for that fact... I could also think of a couple of *nix distros where the newer version was...not really an upgrade, let's say...
     
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    Windows ME was trash, Windows Vista was trash, Windows 8 is trash. Windows 7 has better CPU utilization than Windows 8 does, which may or may not spillover into windows 10. I know the a 4.4Ghz 3920XM in Windows 7 performs the same as a 4.6Ghz 3920XM in Windows 8. Newer is not always better.
     
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