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    Windows 11

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 14, 2021.

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    And I thought the Win10 icons were basic... I'm already starting to dislike "Win11" already, and its not even out lol.
     
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    just looking at the left navigation pane is enough [​IMG]
     
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    Windows 11 will be built from the crap of Windows 10. Nothing exciting about it
     
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    Microsoft ain't known for building a new OS from the ground. It will be mix of all later fiasco's. And all know what Win 10X was meant to be.

    [​IMG]

    Windows 11 may be unveiled next week — Here's what we know bleepingcomputer.com

    Windows 10X features coming to Windows 10

    Microsoft has confirmed that Windows 10X is on the backburner and they'll be bringing Windows 10X technologies to Windows 10.

    Microsoft believes that the technology developed for Windows 10X can be used on Windows 10 to help more users and it doesn't make sense to limit the innovations to select customers.

    "We concluded that the 10X technology shouldn’t just be confined to a subset of customers," the company said.

    Windows Sun Valley also includes a redesigned 'Battery' settings page with detailed graphs to help users understand how their laptop/notebook uses the battery.
    [​IMG]

    Fantastic feature. They really understand what the users want.
     
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    Will it be a free upgrade like windows 10?
     
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    It's honestly horrible. It's so spaced apart to, for no reason... hopefully it's not a complete failure, still it's a long time away.
     
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    Does touchscreen compute? that's why it's spaced apart.
     
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    I never noticed a difference in older Cobalt builds. I really thought Docs, Downloads were Word and Excel file icons.

    Haha..
    Might be mobile device or touch screen UI and then it scales up.
     
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    New images added to the OP
     
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    This is looking like kiddo crap OS already, as expected massive waste of space for information denstity make up for those touch screen devices. That middle task bar is a nightmare to look at, but I think it can be changed from the leaked build screenshots. Also they are calling this Windows 11 for which reason lol, this is the literal Win10 with NTKernel on top of a new Win10X shell to appease the Touch Screen braindead masses. Also they all will have splashscreen bs too. The rounded garbage corners do not look annoying like Android 12 though I will give them that.

    Apparently they removed the Right Click menu for Taskbar which shows multiple options to simple Taskbar settings.

    So Win10 is EOLed by 2025, I guess better to get that pile of junk OS for stability. Rather than this constant barrage of perpetual alpha state of OS. I'm thinking what is their real gameplan for Win11 now, will they have Linux Kernel for Windows ARM or are they going to run the same NTKernel for ARM. And their Enterprise policy ofc we want LTSC not this, what are they going to do to the existing zombies of Win10 installations. And is their explorer.exe Win32 or UWP.

    So the LTSC 2019 - 17763.1 / 17763.316 (which fixed user data issues) have the lifecycle of 1/09/2024 being last date and for extended support until 01/09/2029. There has to be a new LTSC but I think sadly this is going to be start of new LTSC, they might not even push for new LTSC on Win10 anymore ?

    I forgot the most important thing, this is looking really damn same like Win10, and many were proved wrong (including me) that this is going to be a same update to Win10, so yeah the MAJOR thing is - Licensing. M$ is going to mint truck load of money now, OEM deals and other BS for the idiotic consumers AND corporations with Enterprise policies for support and Updates, every damn thing. PLUS use the dumb users for Beta testing.

    EDIT -

    - dxdiag exists, WDDM 2.7 is the version and DX12
    - Control Panel exists
    - Task manager exists

    EDIT 2 - To boot this leaked build on the existing HW people need to enable TPM2.0 and Secure Boot (LOL)
     
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    People with Win 10 won''t pay for this Win 10 substitute. And they know it very well. And the remaining people on Win 7/8.1 is hard to lure over if they have to pay for it. Many want to see proof that this is something to use. They don't want to jump on it freely and on top pay for it.
     
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    A super software savvy friend of mine managed to get his hands on the leaked ISO of Win 11, let me know if you all want more screenshots and what you want screenshotted.
     
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    Hmm. Windows 8.X was a sinfully ugly atrocity and Windows 10 continued the nasty pastel puke bomb theme. But, that's truly the most disgusting pile of crap user interface they have produced to date. Not only did they keep the disgusting white-out rubbish, but they've also centered everything on the taskbar. I was hoping that I might find something nice to say at the onset, but only profanity and derogatory adjectives seem appropriate. The changes are foolish and borderline offensive. It's like they thrive on making pointless and stupid changes that serve no purpose other than making people hate them and Windows more than they did before. I have more reasons to question their intelligence than I ever have had in the past.
     
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    Screw it, am posting images sent to me, he took a lot of images, so I will include the ones that seem the most important. Again, let me know if you want specific screenshots and I'll see what my friend can do :).

    upload_2021-6-15_16-25-35.png

    "The installation menu is identical to the Win10 menu, most likely because Win11 is still very new."

    upload_2021-6-15_16-33-10.png

    "The first time setup menu is basically the same as the Win10 setup, but it looks very different."

    upload_2021-6-15_16-44-53.png

    "The search bar isn't really a bar anymore, but is a menu now."

    upload_2021-6-15_16-46-22.png

    "You can move the taskbar icons to the left, so it closely resembles Win10"

    upload_2021-6-15_16-48-39.png

    "HDR seems to be added in the display settings, something Win10 doesn't have."

    I'll post more upon request as I can only do 5 at a time, but from what my friend has said, Win11 so far seems to be Win10 but with some added features. My friend also changed the date and time on purpose for anonymity.

    He also said he could put my name in and the NBR forums if you all would like for verification.
     
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    I downloaded it but I'm afraid to install it. Muh FPS....
     
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    We have no reason to doubt you, bro. No need for verification in my mind.
    Well, unless they have taken digital cancer to an unprecedented level that causes permanent damage to hardware (which honestly would not surprise me) undoing it is as simple as a Diskpart "clean" command. Spend 5 or 10 minutes making a Macrium Reflect image. If it sucks, then just blow the Windoze 11 filth off the drive and restore the Macrium Image. No fuss, no muss. With Macrium Reflect, playing the part of crash test dummy with Micro$lop cancer OS has never been easier. I do it all the time. If it sucks, I nuke it. There's only one way to find out.
     
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    I'll wait for OOSU11 before upgrading updating to this. xD
     
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    We're not even sure that is the right word for it yet. Newer version? Yes. Better? That probably depends on who is being asked and how they define the term upgrade. Newer is frequently not better, although it should be.

    What? No ShutUp 11? :vbbiggrin:
     
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    Very true! I corrected my original statement. xD
     
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    They won't release it for Win 11 now. And new version is with minor changes. But I expect ShutUp 10 will work well. Same with WUB. Win 11 isn't made up from the ground as a new OS. Its a mess of new and old.
     
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    I am going to install it because I hate it when people complain about things they have no experience with. My hope is that I will be happy and find it to be a better product overall. But, if that is not true then I will be in a position to have a legitimate basis for a negative opinion. It would be really nice to have something to be happy about. It has been a very long time where Windows is concerned. If I can fix the tacky-looking UI, then I will quickly move on to focusing on what's under the hood and determine if that works better, or not.
    This is precisely what I am expecting. But, I will wait to pass judgment until I have proof one way or the other.
     
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    Want a Local Account? That Costs Extra
    Finally, one feature that isn’t a surprise: Microsoft has been pushing Microsoft accounts on Windows 10 users for a while now. It’s hard to create a local account while installing Windows 10—you have to disconnect your PC from the internet first.

    In Windows 11, that doesn’t seem to work. With the standard Windows 11 Home, you can’t create a local account anymore. You’ll need the more expensive Windows 11 Professional edition to do that.
    https://www.howtogeek.com/734768/windows-11-confirmed-what-we-learned-from-the-leaked-build/
    Hands on With Windows 11: A Lightly Skinned Windows 10 reviewgeek.com

    Mostly the Same
    If you want to know the biggest thing I’ve noticed in my few hours with Windows 11, it’s all the things that haven’t changed. Start digging in, and you’ll see that everything is mostly the same. The settings panel is the same, and the control panel is too. Because, of course, we still have to deal with both a modern Settings UI and an aging control panel.

    File Explorer doesn’t see much of a change, nor do virtual desktops. Alas, the action notification center is exactly the same, which means it’ll be mostly useless. And desktop notifications haven’t changed either. Basically, Windows 11 feels just like Windows 10 but with a skinned desktop. Once you get past the initial shock of the Taskbar and Start menu changes, it’s hard to find any other differences.

    And maybe that’s for the best. Sure it’s tempting to want a giant overhaul; after all, it’s Windows 11, not Windows 10.5. But at the end of the day, at least a few minor changes to the main look might avoid another Windows 8 fiasco.


    Live Tiles can be re-enabled in Windows 11 if you really love them Windowslatest.com - June 16, 2021

    Like Windows 8, Windows 10 has been filled with Live Tiles since its launch in 2015. If you enable this feature in Windows Settings or Registry, you can restore the live tiles and go back to the old Start. Yep, Microsoft didnt even bother remove it.

    Same pig but with new lipstick!!
    [​IMG]


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    Windows 11 21996 shows up (not only in screenshots) deskmodder.com good Morning June 15, 2021

    It should not be believed, but miracles still happen. Because the Windows 11 21996.1 has appeared. More precisely the 10.0.21996.1.co_release from May 29th. Included Dowload links for the ISO.
     
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    Well, I would never dream of using a crappy "home" version. Shame on the uninformed that do. Only Pro and Enterprise for me. BUT, their doing this proves what absolute loser bastards they are. They deserve only horrible, tragic things to befall them as a company for repeatedly doing stuff like this. They really are Digi-Nazis. It is by no mistake I have bestowed that name upon them. It is both fitting and deserved. Evil will always be destroyed, or destroy itself.
     
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    Be forced to an M$ account because of what OS version you have is really disgusting if this will be the outcome. Imagine you get the pc with Home Edition and upgrade afterwards. Forced into this madness first is crazy.
     
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    This is why smart people buy legit keys from unintended channels for pennies on the dollar. It is planned for and expected, even by the Digi-Nazis themselves. They know that is a more accurate value for their garbage. Everyone else accepts the cards they are dealt like good little sheeple. They are OK with paying out of their Yazoo for their identities being stolen because they believe it is for a "good cause" and they want to show their support for the organized tech crime bosses, Micro$lop and crApple, LoL.
     
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    Well, I've got until 2025...
     
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    This is extremely stupid and reminds me of how I had to use my phone to set up my Oculus Quest.

    A device should not require another device to complete setup, nor should it require an internet connection to complete setup. Older systems were able do without either during setup. There's no legitimate reason to require new systems to connect to the internet to complete setup. We don't always have an internet connection.

    Yeah it doesn't require that much effort, but it's still an extra unnecessary step. Just watch more unnecessary steps be added in the future to make device setup an absolute chore. I'm not being lazy. Introducing extra steps adds up over time, so I don't want extra steps being added in the first place.

    The process of continually adding extra steps over time is the perfect recipe for making laggy, unoptimized software. Instead, you should strive to reduce the number of steps as much as possible while still returning a correct result.
     
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    Yes, now that they are going with this new BS of Windows 11 which is a dumb 10X shell and downgraded design over Win10 and imitating MacOS and Chrome OS to bone (why ? because all the fools at Surface team use iPads and Chrome Books, they are dumb. So those dumb execs force the same onto the Software they are incharge of, not Engg teams, so Apple has ruined the world computing because of their AIDS UI and OS directions) and their new madness of appeasing the normies with their braindead UI and more bloat plus the constant issues of instability of the OS due to their fragmented UI design which cannot be finalized like we had since all RTMs of Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7.

    Win10 might be a better option indeed until 2025.

    Also Windows 10 probably won't be getting anymore BS features since most of this dumb copying goes to Win11 and Win10 probably will only get minor UI changes until 2025, however they might keep updating the WDDM versions. PLUS the biggest point of all is LTSC, I believe there could be a last LTSC on Win10, if not LTSC 2019 is pretty good. However the sad part is once EOL policy of the Windows kicks in with the SAC releases, they might axe the support of 17763.x a.k.a Windows 10 1809 (questionable but I have my doubts) still the good part is core OS is Win10 and NT Kernel are same so all the programs will probably work without issues. WDDM is also 2.5 on that version. So for gaming on new HW and new releases it will be a problem. They will only update the WDDM once new LTSC launches.

    So the only viable option is LTSC 2021 Win10 if they do it OR Win11 LTSC 2021. Ofc people if they want to stay on perpetual bs of M$ Update system they can happily run Win10Pro with Auto-Updates enabled and deal with the constant ISO cleaning and other de-bloating if they do not want Win11.

    And also I think the final Win11 ISO release on June 24 will probably have even more rounded corners in the rest of the UI and the only worry I have is Disk Management, Control Panel, Task Manager, Regedit and other core functions of Win95 UI elements, basically Win32 should not be changed.
     
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    Useful video. It confirms how stinking ugly it is by default. The people that designed it have absolutely horrible, disgusting taste. So, that much remains consistent. Everything they have done post-Windows 7 has been aesthetically disappointing and extremely unattractive. It looks and feels more like an inefficient tablet or smartphone GUI than a PC UI. I am less enthusiastic to bother giving it a shot after watching this abortion on video. I could not identify anything in the video that I liked. Even their choices in wallpaper and icons are repulsive. Whenever something has to "grow on you" or "takes some getting used to" that is code word for having made bad design decisions. Success is when it is an instant hit aesthetically, everything is familiar and no time needs to we wasted getting desensitized or retrained.
     
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    So true, but wait till the next inflated BS feature, remember DX12? GPU Scheduling (which is supposed to use the dedicated GPU to reduce lag in Windows, I tried that, I felt the animations are less fluid [​IMG] ), automatically process videos (under Settings/Apps/Video playback)

    [​IMG]
     
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    What the actual Hell... "Finally, one feature that isn’t a surprise: Microsoft has been pushing Microsoft accounts on Windows 10 users for a while now. It’s hard to create a local account while installing Windows 10—you have to disconnect your PC from the internet first.

    In Windows 11, that doesn’t seem to work. With the standard Windows 11 Home, you can’t create a local account anymore. You’ll need the more expensive Windows 11 Professional edition to do that."

    Just why? They're really pushing it too far.
     
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    Whats worse is the performance degrade. New has to be better? Yeah, sure. I will put it on my test bench when I have the time. But this doesn't look promising :no:

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    Hmm I thought they said w10 was the last version just updates but looks like the marketing dept disagreed. I'm guessing it's the same crap afaik, if I'm still a pc video gamer in 5-10 years(hopefully not tbh) I'd be forced into dx13 at some point or like usually happens buy new equipment and it comes with it.
     
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    Windows 10’s Weather Widget Is a Mess. Is Windows 11 Next? howtogeek.com

    Bad News for Windows 11
    Microsoft keeps teasing amazing “Sun Valley” design coming soon. Perhaps it will even be called Windows 11!

    But why does it feel like Microsoft’s Windows interface designers have just given up?

    We’re all supposed to be excited about a new Windows user interface design from the team that brought up this blurry, buggy, lazy Weather widget?

    Say what you will about the People Bar—at least it wasn’t blurry when Microsoft released it on us. Windows 10’s new features are going downhill

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    Install Windows 11 21996 without TPM 2.0 [workaround] deskmodder.de

    Anyone who would like to have a look at the new Windows 11 in a VM or on an extra partition can be prevented from doing so because TPM 2.0 is required...
     
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    Oh yeah, I forgot to tell everyone, Secure Boot is also REQUIRED for Win11, so no more unintended MXM upgrades unless we can find a bypass.
     
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    One of the reason they let Win 10 be an option until 2025. There is no reason to upgrade to this new skinned rounded corners Win 10 version. New doesn't always mean better. You should know that. + Win 11 means it will have a performance degrade vs older Win 10.
     
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    I know that, I’m just saying IF one wanted to use Win11 with an unintended MXM GPU, that they would have a hard time, which adds to the dumpster fire that is Win11.
     
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    Now I'm more worried about soldered components on consumer electronics making it like iPads/iPhones.
    I really am finding difficult to justify the upgrade for stardock like UI or more specifically OS X like. I think they may use special OS for Surface and Xboxes different from Win 10 core and name it "Microsoft SW experience 2.x"
     
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    Their designers and staff / talent who made Windows 95, 98, 2000, XP, Vista, 7 probably left the company or are too old and only working on NT Kernel, which is the heart of the OS. Without NT Kernel the Windows and it's Win32 technically superior framework will die which will result them in a catastrophic loss. Notice how the journo shills call this Win32 as legacy. Shame on them.

    They tried this garbage with 8/8.1 (I still use it because of UEFI boot for Maxwell and up MXMs and I cannot stand Win10 and it's SAC BS) but it never took off. Apparently people were still having some brain. After 2015 and constant propaganda from M$ about Win10 and how the tech press shilled for that OS many people left to Win10, esp after that intimidation of "Support is gone" FF to 2021. Win7 Simplix pack has all the updates to 2021, and bonus you do not get infected with Bloatware / Spyware and nagware, and even get xHCI USB 3.0 drivers which M$ removed from support packs.

    On the parallel you had Apple going to sky high with profits and their iPhones, Mac OS and got away with soldering every single component on the motherboard and selling pure junk which throttled since their user base has been dumbed down hard when they abandoned Mac and put more into iOS. This caused all Silicon Valley to get infested with Apple's AIDS and slowly M$ pushed Xbox Gamepass GaaS and got away with AaS through Office / Windows and literally everything and minted money. Investors wanted more greed, so they axed Windows division and put more into Azure Cloud and other As a Service products, and they all hired incompetent hacks who use Apple and other cheap mobile garbage PLUS the OSes which do not respect User control.

    They tried through, Windows 10S to ship in dumpster BGA machines and others, failed. Windows 10X was their new project under that fool Panos. Which also got axed why ? Technical superiority / Natural Selection / Survival of the Fittest - Win32 decimated all of these cancerous ideas. Now they are going with the approach of same Win10 propaganda of Touch BS and simplify everything. Agile software development killed software quality as it generated more money.

    Their next game plan is Project Reunion, the unholy abomination of Win32+UWP, I hope that also fails again but nowadays people are even more stupid. So cannot vision what is going to be the future of Win32. But one thing is certain, a thin client will replace the OS and HW everything will move to Centralized Cloud. The Microsoft which we all knew during Win7 is gone, it's now controlled by power hungry rich Investors with the puppets to be controlled forever they will get away with this. The more Apple sees success the harder these OSes will become for User freedom / Technically going backwards into big rooms again like IBM era. Any wrong thinking if you have bam strikes the Sauron's eye which can see it all.
     
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    If that is true then I won't even be able to install if for test purposes. I do not allow Secure Boot to be enabled on any of my systems. I use Legacy BIOS or UEFI with CSM enabled exclusively and have no intent to change that, now or in the future. In fact, the primary reason I do not own a Clevo X170 is because Legacy BIOS and CSM are not fully functional and I do not have the autonomy to install any OS I feel like installing in whatever manner I feel like installing it. If a product does not allow me to make these decisions in whatever manner I choose to, as I see fit, I will have no interest in owning that product and won't spend a dime of my money on it.

    If this is true, it also means Windows 11 cannot be installed on a system that does not have a new UEFI BIOS with Secure Boot as an option even if they wanted it. If true, they are slitting their own throats by releasing an OS that can only be used on a small portion of computers in use worldwide. Many of those will not be replaced in the near future and they are limiting their profit and growth potential in a way that is foolish and short-sighted.
     
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    I think there's a way, by using WinNT setup or probably any WinPE boot and by replacing the Install.wim from the ISO with Win10 ISO. But it's not the RTM Win11 release yet. So I think we will have to wait, but they are hinting at the inevitable CSM axing which they proposed years back, 2020 was supposed to be the EOL for BIOS. And as I was always thinking about it, 2021 and up platforms will not have CSM options and go full UEFI only. Assuming all the BGA JUNK from AMD and Intel will have this garbage by default. Since they all are in bed together. I think not just BGA, their new DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 will probably abandon CSM.

    Servers are also targeted (Phoronix page), so expect next Xeon Sapphire Rapids and the upcoming Alderlake kill the whole CSM. Which is why I stress people to buy Ryzen and Intel LGA1200 platforms now, where this possibility exists today.
     
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    Yes, these imbeciles are moving in that direction and they have the Nazi power to manipulate how things are implemented with new hardware, especially where laptop trash is concerned. But, I cannot see it being a reality as a requirement for the OS because doing that would seriously hinder their obsession with growth, profit, and boasting rights for the number of systems worldwide running their latest cancer abortion OS. They will not be able to mandate hardware upgrades, so they with be slitting their own throats by limiting OS compatibility in this manner. Maybe in another 8 or 10 years, but that is a very long time to play out on systems purchased in 2019, 2020, 2021, etc. Many of them will be used by consumers and businesses until 2027-2030, or as long as they continue to function. My wife's laptop is 9 years old. It still works. It's a bit slow, but it does what she wants it to. It won't be replaced until it stops working. She doesn't care.
     
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