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    Windows 7 Activation Technologies Update

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by mooler, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    No, not at all.

    The policy is to make it so that computers without a connection to the internet can still use Windows. Windows is an operating system, and shouldn't require internet access to use. Microsoft knows this, and will not do anything to compromise this.

    It also can't just be circumvented by blocking connections to Microsoft. You're going to need to connect to get your Windows updates, and that would be the time where WAT can work. That's why I don't get why Microsoft doesn't just authenticate each time Windows Update is run. It seems silly to me to make authentication a completely separate process.
     
  2. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    I can't see Microsoft being very inflexible about this.

    For example, Microsoft will allow some flexibility for sites with hundreds of Windows installations that could wreck havoc on intranets if they all try to call in at once.
     
  3. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    You don't have to worry about Enterprise versions. Enterprise versions already require a license checkout system.
     
  4. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    No he means, that if, for some unknown reason your legit license becomes non legit, then what you do?! As I explained, this is extremely rare, and a call to Microsoft will solve the problem, as they can give you a new product key, or special code to activate your Windows, or de-ban your product key.
     
  5. CooLMinE

    CooLMinE Notebook Deity

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    Although my Windows 7 is legit i wont be installing this update. Did anyone "catch" this phrase ?

    Sure it wont, they will just be able to see the ip from where the information came from which is not used to identify you :p /sarcasm off
     
  6. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Hehe.

    To add:
    I know your being sarcastic, but for those you still worry uselessly and thinks like you showed in your sarcasm:

    Microsoft already knows this with the first activation, and all updates. Including if you visit any Microsoft website. But, that is completely useless, and they don't know your exact location with it. My IP shows that I am in Ontario, while I am in Quebec. The best accuracy they have is which country you are in, but they already know the population of each country.. soooo... useless.

    If they want to track you down, then is not simple.. they have your IP address from any Microsoft website or ad that appear on a page from them, then they have your IP address, which then they find your modem ID with it, including ISP, now they need to see with the police and investigators to build up a case and enough proof that your guilty of something, or a big suspect, and follow all regional and international laws. Then they need to see a judge for a warrant, which the police & investigator needs to physically show to your ISP, which lead them to verify all that with their own lawyer, and get your profile on their system to them, and now they can find where you live. This millions of dollars spent from Microsoft and authorities to get you. NOT WORTH IT! Microsoft is after people who sales illegal/crack version of Windows 7, not you.
     
  7. CooLMinE

    CooLMinE Notebook Deity

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    Yea i know they already have the Ip's and all but its silly that they say the info they gather cannot be used to identify you. Since if you are a suspect for something they can get a warrant and trace your ip through your ISP and get your home address.

    There was a similar incident in WoW like 1-2 months ago, when blizzard gave the information to the police of someone who was accused about something (bad memory cant quite remember the whole story :p) and helped them trace him down :)

    I just laugh when they "dress" all things up like theres no way to compromise your privacy! :p

    ps, im not saying that M$ will go into all that trouble to get the information, im just pointing out that the information will be there for "someone" to take, the least they could do is not say silly things about privacy :p
     
  8. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    All I can see is this will open the door to another exploit. Trojans and or virus and or malware will be out there to disguise your good license to look like a piracy piece and then you will get nailed at some point down the line at a later point. I think that M$ may be opening the preverbial box here............
     
  9. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Yea, lucky no one here will ever use that junk called M$ Windows, but rather Microsoft Windows.
     
  10. Padmé

    Padmé NBR Super Pink Princess

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    @Rodknee I did delete your post as it was off topic. But feel free to start a thread on that topic.
     
  11. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    OK will do. Btw I don't have a problem with a post being deleted it's just nice to know that it has been deleted and not something squirrley that's going on with the message board. :)
     
  12. norbert26

    norbert26 Notebook Enthusiast

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    years ago i had trouble with an old windows XP machine after the license somehow became corrupt. i had to buy a new XP license. My windows are legit but i will be sure to keep ubuntu copy ready to go on my HDD in case this malfunctions............when and if it does i will simply delete windows.
     
  13. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    I had a similar situation where my XP Pro OEM key which I had since 2001 and reactivated several times over 9 years by MS eventually became unauthorized or blacklisted. I did nothing out of the ordinary, never gave the key out.

    Yeah sometimes keys can accidentally get blacklisted by MS and the user is left to either call and plead their case or buy another key. For me I switched from XP once Windows 7 came out. So I didn't bother calling MS regarding my XP Pro key.
     
  14. popypopy

    popypopy Notebook Evangelist

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    I've had that happen to me, one phone call to MS fixed it in like 5 -10 minutes, though mine was a store bought XP copy, not OEM.
     
  15. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    systems are already calling home just fyi. 2 of mine did already and both passed according to the logs from wat.
     
  16. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Z where do you view the wat logs? I went to event viewer and all it showed was that winlogon passed validation after installing the patch.
     
  17. zfactor

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    you have to create a custom view for it. and select wat as the process. open event viewer. look to the right for create custom view. open that up. in the middle select by source under the by log choice. the in the drop down next to the "by source" scroll down to windows activation technologies click on it to place a check in its box. then under that give it any name you would like i call mine simply "watu" and the click ok. now if you go to custom views on the left in will be there if you pull that down.
     
  18. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Thanks Z, I called mine WAT Update, pretty unique huh? :D
     
  19. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Z I did what you said but I still haven't registered any entries in that Custom Log I created. :confused:

    What I am seeing are entries in the Event Log that refer to SPP entries that show System Protection has started and License Check has successfully taken place. Are these the same thing? :confused:
     
  20. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    if those servers don't log the people connected to it after the checks, and run fully automatic, there is no chance to compromise your privacy.

    and with this statement, they sort of guarantee this for you. to make sure it's true, you'd have to meet them, and check if they really have their servers configured well.

    but all in all, that's what they tell us. and if they would lie, they would get sued. so you can trust them. but you won't, as you prefer paranoia.
     
  21. zfactor

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    looks like its doing well for them in picking up the loaders etc a lot of reports of non genuine systems. and from my testing it is NOT easy to fix. i mean to get rid of the wat and return to genuine status before a loader was used. what i am told is if it flags the system you will have to just "wait" even if you fix the issue its supposed to call back in (from what i am being told 7 days) then repair itself if the issue has been fixed. now this may not be 100% accurate but was told to me by someone at ms
     
  22. Soldier1st

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    i will avoid this crap like the plaque.
     
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