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    Windows 7 Patch Tuesday

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by 3Fees, Jul 12, 2011.

  1. 3Fees

    3Fees Notebook Deity

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    Windows 7 Home Premium SP1

    5 updates
    9.5 MB

    All installed.

    Cheers
    3Fees :)
     
  2. fred2028

    fred2028 Sexy member

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    Is this gonna be a trend when we all report what we updated with?
     
  3. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    Windows 7 Professional AMD-64 with SP1

    0 Updates
    0 MB
    Not checked for updates yet!
     
  4. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    Has been for about a year now......
     
  5. Hungry Man

    Hungry Man Notebook Virtuoso

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    Serves as a reminder to people. It's been a trend for quite some time.
     
  6. JOSEA

    JOSEA NONE

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    Ditto, but hung on shutdown screen, came back 10 minutes later had to hold power switch to shut off. Windows UUUGGGGGHHH!
     
  7. 3Fees

    3Fees Notebook Deity

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    :)


    Cheers
    3Fees :)
     
  8. atbnet

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    Thanks, I had another recommended update to install as well. I hate these ones that require reboot.
     
  9. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    I must have missed some before :/
    5 important - 14.8MB
    1 optional - 2.1MB
     
  10. Steven

    Steven God Amongst Mere Mortals

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    7 important
    0 optional
    Already installed so I do not remember how much MB they were.
     
  11. alvinkhorfire

    alvinkhorfire Notebook Consultant

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    Once it has been confirmed, I will report a list of the older Windows Updates that can be uninstalled from our computer.
     
  12. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    What, precisely, do you think that will accomplish?

    Please research how WU works before you do this........
     
  13. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Huh? What makes you think this is either necessary or wise to do?

    Gary
     
  14. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    He's probably obsessed with storage space or some jazz.
     
  15. vaio.phil

    vaio.phil Notebook Evangelist

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    hmm... only received 5 important and 1 optional (all ~small files) looks like the developers are all out on vacation :)
     
  16. alvinkhorfire

    alvinkhorfire Notebook Consultant

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    Chill down, guys. :) If I have said anything wrong, feel free to correct my mistake. Okay?

    The outdated update is KB2525694 ( MS11-041: Vulnerabilities in Windows kernel-mode drivers could allow elevation of privilege: June 14, 2011). Win32k.sys: 6.1.7601.17622

    It is replaced by KB2555917 ( MS11-054: Vulnerabilities in Windows kernel-mode drivers could allow elevation of privilege: July 12, 2011). Win32k.sys: 6.1.7601.17630

    Thus, it is advisable to uninstall KB2525694.

    Look, guys, assume that you reformat your computer now and subsequently install Windows 7 SP1. Then, you connect to Windows Update. Between the 2 aforementioned updates, you will see only KB2555917. Yes, Windows Update will not offer you KB2525694, thus KB2525694 is redundant.

    As of now, if you choose to leave it installed, its files will not be used by Windows, thus enlarging winsxs and increase disk fragmentation.

    I do exaggerate things a bit since there is only 1 outdated update for this month, but I am sure that you may have a lot of outdated updates installed. I am not talking primarily about hard disk usage since the size of hard disk nowadays is almost big enough to contain everything. It is more about hard disk performance, since the accumulation of older updates slows down your hard disk, which is the slowest component in the laptop.

    Even if you are using SSD, you will not want want those outdated updates waste your precious SSD space, right?

    Again, if I have said anything wrong, feel free to correct my mistake. No need for any harsh comment, okay? :)

    Not really, a month of huge numbers of updates (June 2011) alternates with another month with far fewer updates (July 2011). This is how Microsoft schedules the updates, unless there are unusual circumstances. Thus, you can expect Patch Tuesday for August 2011 will bring more updates, compared to this month.
     
  17. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you note they take space in winsxs. hint: they don't. winsxs is virtual. not even windows reports the correct filesize in there.

    and i would never uninstall replaced updates. i just let microsoft do it's job, and do it well. that 1mb might save me .. uhm .. 0.00009% of the space my ssd has (and it's a small one). why should i even move my finger one millimeter for that amount of gain? same for the fragmentation (when on a hdd). it simply doesn't matter.
     
  18. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    What he said ^^^.

    Gary
     
  19. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    Whaaaaa???
     
  20. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    people still think filling a harddrive means it gets slower, like filling a car makes it slower. a harddrive has the same speed, no matter the data that is on it.

    and care about gigabytes, never about megabytes. we're in near/post terabyte era, megabytes just don't matter AT ALL anymore. do you care on a one kilometer way you have to walk if it's one millimeter longer, or shorter?
    so why do you care about a megabyte, or think it has any impact, again?
     
  21. alvinkhorfire

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    Okay, I understand what you guys mean. Sorry that I have misunderstood some concepts.

    Let me get this straight. I do not think you guys reinstall Windows on regular basis, say every 2 months the least? Even if you do reinstall Windows, you would use Windows Update to download and install tons of updates, right?

    I see that as the common method being practised. What I am trying to say is about another different method of installing most up-to-date Windows, which is to create a customized Windows, as shown in the first link in my signature. I am not saying my method is better, but I am trying to bring the awareness of this method.

    Windows updates are slipstreamed into Windows image, before Windows is installed. For this method (customized Windows) to work, you need to keep track of latest updates. That is why I am posting a list of superseeded updates. Yes, not many will find it useful, but it may be some significance to someone like me.