Windows 7 Professional boot-up times

I'm using Win7 Prof on my new Core i7 -equipped lappy, and have notice that my sister's Pentium dual core machine boots up quicker using Win7 Home Premium. I've disabled all the start-up programs not required through msconfig, but I was wondering if there are any other processes Win7P runs which may account for this strangely sluggish performance???

 

bloatware from dell?

 

No. As I said, I'd switched off any unnecessary start-up programs, and had already removed the bloatware Dell had put on the machine (which, in the UK at least, wasn't very much at all). My sister's machine had not had any of the bloatware it may have come with removes, as when I compared start up speeds it was the day after she got it, and she doesn't even know what "bloatware" means..

 

did you uninstall the bloatware or did you reformat the hard drive? if you reformatted, did you install the intel storage drivers?

 

I simply uninstalled the bloatware. Like I said, there was barely any, anyway.

 

i think it'd be better if you started a thread in the dell studio forum and ask people with similar specs to yours to report their boot times, i havent measured mine (im using 7 pro 64 bit) but it boots up really fast on my dell precision m4400

 

What are your boot times?

 

I have the same problem with my amd turion x2 rm-70 and 7600 win7. On 7200 it was Much faster and the boot time was 60 secs. Now the time is 100-120 sec (depends on AC or battery).
Yes I do have all new-win7-specified drivers. Any idea?
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Both version are ultimate x64
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Tommorow i will get the win7 prof x64 and check for these problems after clear install.

 

It boots really fast on my desktop, so so on my laptop. But anyway, the best thing is to use hibernation.

A clean install should probably fix it, historically Dell-installed Windows have crappy performances, for whatever reason.

 

Why use Hibernation when my boot time is the same as waking up from Hibernate?

Anyway, I don't understand why your boot time is so slow. My 5400RPM drive manages 32 seconds on a good day. Is that good or bad?

 

It is the same on your laptop? It isn't even the same on my desktop. My desktop, once switching to windows, takes about 5 seconds from hibernation while a good 30-40 before being usable on boot up.

 

5 seconds from Hibernation? Don't you mean Sleep? There is no way that it would be that quick from Hibernate.

If you do mean Sleep, I got you beat.

 

on my precision (specs in sig) it takes 6 seconds for POST, then 25 seconds to load windows. so all together 34 seconds.

 

My Inspiron has a 5400 drive. It takes about 30 sec to the login screen and another 30 before IE gets going.

Hibernation shouldn't take more than 15. It's usually around 10 on all my laptops. Like 5 secs on my desktops.

 

When I said I compared it to my sister's machine, her's is a Dell also, so the playing field was level when considering OEM OS installation.

 

I'm not counting POST.

 

Every now and then, Microsoft performs a boot optimizations. People feel the same thing when they re-install their Windows Vista/7 (boot is slower). It will take time. Be patient.

You can defrag your HDD, and boot sector to help.
To defrag the boot sector:
1- Hit your Win key, and type: CMD
2- On the search result, right-click on CMD, and select Run As Administrator...
3- A command prompt should open. From there type in: defrag c: -b and hit the ENTER key. Nothing will happen other than your HDD will be busy. Just wait until it's done. It may take several minutes depending on how the fragmentation is big on your system.

In the mean time, all you can do is retsrat your computer and leave it idle for very long periods of time, to allow the system to do it's thing. I was told it dopes it every 3 days... so I guess do it for 3 days.

 

Hibernate takes like 60 seconds on my notebook (too the login screen) while i boot in 30secs.. and with the ssd firefox is started 2 secs after the log in screen.

Only annoying thing about boot is: i always have 30+ tabs opened in FF.. takes ages until they load

 

Every web browser has it's up and downs. Opera web browsers is the fastest web browser you can use which also is designed to manager a huge amount of tabs. Opera's support 98-99% of all Firefox plug-ins (yes, latest Flash and Java is supported).

Firefox is all about add-on's and support same range of plug-in's as IE.

The rest of Firefox advantages are in Opera.

 

i agree with opera beeing faster. but i like alot of firefox addons. also some sites didnt work well with opera.

how ever: my hibernate is much slower than boot time :x

 

This is an anomaly.

 

also on ssd´s ?
on my hdd the hibernate mode was faster.

maybe its because i have alot of programs running ? like FF with 600MB ram usage?

 

you should not be hibernating with an SSD. Every time you hibernate it writes what is in ram (4gb) to the disk, and then goes into a low power state. writing too much = bad for SSD

 

hmm i thought it wouldnt be such a problem for an ssd (of the liftetime isnt aslong as an hdd but still long enough?).

 

yep. it will definitely kill the ssd doing so.. like, if it's the 80gb ssd, and you have 4gb ram, that means (if win7 still writes uncompressed, which i doubt from what i've seen), after 20x going to hibernation, it has written once to each cell. after 10000 writes per cell, the ssd (in average) will die.

that means after 200'000 times you went to hibernation, it killed the ssd.

or, if you go to hibernation 2 times a day, we talk about 270 years.


in short: don't ever bother about the write cycles of an ssd. they last longer than your hw anyways.

 

I'm with Dave here.

I'm tired of hearing people cite write cycles. Because people think writing to the SSD = write cycle, which isn't.

Hibernation shouldn't take longer than boot. Technically, Windows is just reading everything back into memory, so even with a 600K firefox, it should be fine. Something is fishy when your resumes take longer than your boots.

 

espencially in win7, where it looks like it just writes down the in-use ram. which is often much less than the installed ram. at least it's much faster hibernated, and restored, than my intel g1 ssd would allow, if it would write down all the ram.

hibernation save and load maximum times can easily be computed. how much ram do you have? what harddrive/ssd?

in my case, i have to write down 2.5gb of ram, and my ssd writes at 70MB/s. that means it takes 2500MB / 70MB/s = 35sec to write down my hibernation file IF MY RAM IS AT MAX USE.

starting up again takes, then, 2500MB / 250MB/s, or 10 seconds. again, that, if ram is at max usage.

but as far as i can see, win7 (finally) only writes down / loads back the used parts in ram, greatly reducing that time.

 

hmm then i wonder what is wrong with my win7 :x

could it be that it writes the ram files on the normal hdd (secondary) instatt of the ssd?

 

no. it's always where the os is, it has to.

how much ram, what ssd? (and check, if the hiberfil.sys is actually on the ssd, it's in the root folder, hidden)

 

file is on the ssd :/

4gb ram
intel postville x2 80gb

 

Should probably start another thread rather than hijacking this one.

 

true, will do so later this week