Windows 7 Service Pack 1

I am not sure if this can be asked here.
I saw a lot of stuffs regarding this Windows 7 Service Pack 1 recently.
Some said it's RTM-ed, some said it's BETA only.
So, actually, which 1 was true? When might the Windows 7 SP1 will be released?

Also, I heard that Windows 7 SP1 have some improvements on gaming due to better DirectX patches. Is this true?

In addition, Windows 7 SP1 can be downloaded via Windows Update(can upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 directly under Original Windows 7?)?
Would it be free?

By the way, anyone here tested the Windows 7 SP1 Beta?

My questions might be lame. LOL. But, I hope someone can clear me out from these sh!ts.

 

SP1 is still in beta. This SP is different from previous ones as it is much smaller. It's not really a drastic upgrade.

 

considering the number of updates that have come out AFTER the current SP1 beta was released, it's probably not worth your time.

 

Yup, as SP1 will be similar to SP3 for XP (a bunch of previously released updates all rolled into one).

 

I think service pack 1 may soon launch.
Remember a few months back there was a KB article that was to get the system ready for further updates.
Well I never installed i, and it vanished a day or so later for me.
Now it is back, along with a few other KB articles

Don't ask me how soon though, I may just be wishing

 

I just received a new update on several computers that has to do with the future delivery of SP1 so we are getting closer. I hope the DX upgrade/optimization for gaming is true but as others have said i'm not getting my hopes up.

 

BTW. Whats every ones plans for the service pack?
Clean install, then install just the service pack?

 

^^^ This

There should be no need for a clean install unless you are having other issues.

 

This.

People on this site love formatting their drives lol I can't even believe that some people do it monthly...

 

God almighty, yes, why in all the world?

 

Well pretty simple, they have a friend who's brother-in-law's sister's boyfriend's uncle's ex-wife's son is an "expert" and he says you need to reformat, dfrag and run cCleaner once a week or else your hard drive will die and a permanent virus will be stored in RAM, the BIOS will reset and your power supply will fail. He has been doing this every week without issues and has never had a virus even though he doesn't run any antivirus software because he is smart and knows exactly how to avoid bad web sites.

Gary

 

That describes 99% of computer techs in Montgomery AL.

 

you're AWESOME

don't forget that they don't install the new operating system because it sucks and is bloated and all and the old one is much better and they know what they do and actually they would install win2000 on their pc if they could. doesn't matter if the os won't support any hw features, they know better and all.

correct it to "worldwide".


i personally can't wait to not even notice the sp1 most likely when it auto installs..

 

"legacy people" who insist on holding on to "legacy knowledge" at the exclusion of anything new..........

Taking major steps at work to solve this problem and will probably upset about 200 people in the process. Either maintain and refresh your knowledge base or be left behind and be shut out.

 

tell that to the world.. can't find anyone who does not prefer his legacy knowledge over realizing how wrong he is and relearning stuff. (but it makes perfect sence, who likes to be embarassed to be wrong. once people got adult they reach the "i've learned everything level". teaching them new stuff is only to show them how they're stupid, and thus, not acceptable. block everything new)

problem is, those olders with the old knowledge that (especially in the computer business) is not true anymore get your boss, and their boss, and their boss.. result: stagnation in progress.

 

"legacy people" has not a thing to do with age or 'oldsters'. Some of the most inflexible people I know are 30 years old and some of the most flexible, adaptable, and valuable people I know are in their 50s+.

It's everything about attitude and suitability for a profession.

 

but the older you get, the more moments of "stopping to advance" you get. but yeah, you find them in all ages and scenes. still, most stop at some point in their life, considering their knowledge to be "good enough" and won't really learn much new by then. the older, the more.

and the higher on a companies ladder, the more they "forget their roots", another feature that lets them stop advance in knowledge.

but those are just tendencies, doesn't mean they fit to everyone.

 

where is this conversation going?

 

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Heheh, love it...

Hey, now, wait a minute! Win2K is awesome... :tongue:

 

Appeared to start with Pirx finding religion then turned into some sort of rant which seemed a little demeaning but maybe I see it that way because I'm an old fart who still uses some of the legacy stuff.

I haven't had a close look at the W7 service pack but IIRC it does come with a warning that the update could possible take up to an hour or more to complete and I believe there is a bit more to it than just a rollup. For instance if you just bought a system with one of the new Sandy Bridge processors then AFAIK SP1 brings support for the new AVX (256bit registers) which W7 and earlier versions of Windows don't have.

 

it WAS. except for where it wasn't and xp, vista, win7 all improved on. but it was nice for it's time.

i guess it won't take that long to install on my systems. sandy bridge support? is there any documentation about this? haven't yet read that one, now i'm curious

 

Well i'll be getting the MSDN ISO with it already integrated and installing from that. I always hated doing "upgrades" so i format whenever there's a major service pack (or a virus gets onto the machine). The data is already on another location so i just blow off Windows partition and install again and then install apps again too. Most of my stuff is in the cloud so i don't need many actual apps on this system.

 

I assume you speak/understand german, here's a link with additional information(in german)
heise online - Microsoft bereitet Windows 7 auf das Service Pack 1 vor

 

So do I. The updates and the service pack only blow up the OS partition.
I hope I will get an image with integrated service pack from somewhere, maybe from here.

 

You missed the link below the article
--> Microsoft prepares for SP1 for Windows 7? - The H Security: News and Features for those who do not speak german

Michael

 

that's why the service packs by now bring a cleaner utility with it, that you can run after you tested that the service pack works as you want. after the cleaning, the os is like fresh installed with service pack.

 

I installed SP1 over a fresh install only because with the various MS updates it broke a few things wrt certain programs. So far so good, everything is working 100%. One of my problems prior to SP1 was when entering into sleep mode it would take 10-15 secs. This also became a problem as coming out of sleep mode I was intermittently greeted with a BSOD or the cursor on my touchpad would not move for the first 5 secs.

This is the only laptop ThinkPad T60 I did a fresh install. The other laptop I tried it on was just an update to SP1. That is working just fine.

 

You success is to be expected.

An SP is not just a collection of previous fixes with some kind of wrapper around them. An SP is unit-tested for compatibility and install 'smoothness'.

 

Did you install the RC or RTM? I searched and it doesnt look like it has even been RTM'd yet?

 

Leaked RTM.

 

Oh ok thanks. I found some sites with that but I'm going to wait for it to go on MSDN/technet before I do it. I'm estimating it will be there by Tuesday of next week....hopefully! Don't ask me why, just a feeling

 

Yeah I understand

 

Just thought I'd share my experience... Installed the leaked "RTM" the other day. Nothing mind blowing (so much the better), but I have noticed 1 change I didn't expect.
My RAM usage has gone up about 256 MB from the vanilla W7 (x64) average (no big deal, I've got plenty), but I am happy to see that SP1 is also caching my RAM a little more agressively, to the tune of an additional 1.5-2GB when I'm putting the normal workload on my 'puter (8GB installed).
Dunno if I can see that it's making a real world difference yet, but nice to see that it's trying.

 

I've noticed the same thing, no biggie. I think WAT update is enabled with SP1 so it could be sitting in the background as well as a few other tasks. Not bothered by the RAM usage as the system is just as fast prior to SP1.

Oh and RTM FTW

 

FYI - installing the leaked SP1 RTM on Win7 Ultimate will result in the optional language packs no longer showing in Windows Update. This *should* be normal behavior, as in Vista this happened as well, since the language packs need to be updated to SP1 level too. Until MS has SP1 versions of the languages on WU they won't appear.

 

That's good news.

I have a i2500/8GB desktop with 64-bit 7 ( great combo BTW) and I haven't seen any aggressive usage of the RAM by Win7. I'd like to see most of the 8GB being used productively even for daily usage...hate to think that the RAM's being underutilized especially since I paid good money for it

 

That initial extra RAM usage was, in my case, the .NET Optimization Service running. It seems to run a loooong time, I rebooted well over an hour later and it was still going. After the reboot it went away and my RAM usage is where it was before on two machines. This service seems to kick in after certain updates, with this same behavior.

SP1 isn't supposed to do anything special for caching.

 

Yeah, at first there was a lot of RAM and CPU usage going on as a result of the Indexing Service and .NET processes "reinitializing" I guess would be the best term... After the dust had cleared I am still seeing close to a consistent 250MB (or so) additional RAM usage.

I agree that I haven't seen any documentation showing that SP1 would be caching RAM more aggressively (and I have no empirical evidence to prove otherwise), but I haven't changed my user habits in any way in the past 5 days and I have seen my "cached RAM" go from an average of 1.5-1.7GB to 3.5-3.6GB. YMMV (of course).

 

My ram usage went back to normal after reboot. My CPU is getting spiked less often at the 10-15% level so I run 1-2c cooler. The RC install was painless after DL it was less than 20 minutes too complete the install............