Windows 7 endless checking for updates cycle after SP1

It was time to do clean install of windows 7 and oh boy I was wrong to get it done without problems.

I had some problems with installing windows, but managed to short it out quite quickly thanks to my friend google.

I hit the wall each time with windows updater. First time I just installed all updates recommended and important updates. After SP1 was installed and action center showed me to do update check immediately. I did it and let it roll over and over and over, nothing changed.

Fresh install and second try. I looked help from google this time:
Do disk cleanup. Done
scan windows files for possible corrupted files. Done
WSUS. Done
Even used lan cable over wlan, since someone told that it helped him.

For my surprise none of those worked and still my windows updater hangs on endless checking for updates cycle. And yes I have given the machine time to get his **** together, but it just can't do anything. That try ended with rage deleting all files or at least most of them.

Now I'm again with fresh install of windows. Installed only my important drivers chipset and wlan with windows updater haunting me at right bottom corner.

After SP1 was installed in both cases it updated windows updater and after that I was stuck (and believe me I knew I fcked it up)

Thank you if you find time to help me out

 

If i am right there is a windows update to fix that. What i used was "WSUS Offline Update" You can find it here...its #2 https://www.raymond.cc/blog/offline-windows-update/ . The first time i have ever used it was last week and it worked great. it downloaded all the updates and then you just let the program run . Before my laptop went all night to update and nothing. It's very easy to do. I used a thumb drive.

 

They way I did my Win7 install was to download the offline update and install each of them and reboot in order to keep Win7 from taking off the deep end. Doing this helps so if you do a reinstall you already have the updates after Sp1 and just install them at your leisure.

 

Windows6.1-KB3102810-x64 (Fix Windows Updates for Win 7)

 

YAY! Finally got it working Decided to let you guys know how:



Got helping solution from here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.co...date-scan-high-memory-usage?forum=w7itproperf

Thanks for help Phoenix, thou I get it done by myself. It seems that your tip might have worked aswell. (I used the latest fix).

 

Funny fact when you really try to solve something. (if someone are interested in my "troubleshooting" skills)

1. Tried deleting cache multiple times.
2. Stopped and restarted services.
3. Used safe mode.
4. Once I looked Process tab I noticed there was svchost using ~2gb- 4gb ram. -> must be problem with that.
5. Googled up with svchost windows update high ram memory leak.
6. Got in right place apparently.
7. Run the hotfix.
8. Boom windows update works again.

 

which hotfix? the one I posted?

 

Update (4/21/16): Latest release:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3138612
source

 

About to rip the hair out of my head if this doesn't work...

 

This was the only thing that worked. I even tried the Microsoft rollup and that got me to April but windows update still hung. Worst. Program. Ever.

 

I created an install.wim with updates up to April, using the Simplix program. Next time I do a clean install, then I have an updated ISO image. Then I will wait for an update to simplix, and do it again.

 

Right but updating to April using the roll up still left me with a broken Windows Update. It didn't get fixed until I was about halfway through the updates using the update tool when suddenly it popped up with updates.

 

That is why I quit using WUS altogether. After so many years, you would think that they would fix that garbage.

 

Even with Simplix, it still takes a good hour and a half to install all of the updates. That is MS, and its infinite wisdom, where windows 7 is on 50% of desktops worldwide, and cannot create an updated ISO image. They did it with every other OS.

 

Best to check here for info on how to resolve slow update searching each month. This site is really good with updating the solutions quickly after each Patch Tuesday.

Also highly recommend following Woody Leonhard's blog via RSS/email to stay in the loop with updates, security holes, bugs, and all things related.

 

No problems here with Windows 7 doing it regular updates. It's far easier to download the updates and install them at a later time unless you stop what you doing after each Windows update to reboot to insure the updates are correctly updated. Windows Update is plenty good to check on your updates and updates aren't going to be the same for every computer so giving people sites to update that don't work doesn't help them fix their problems. Turn on your Windows Update and let it do it's job is far better then one trying to manage it. You an read blogs about the updates but leave the actually updates to Windows Updater that is a better way to manage you updates. Those having endless cycle checks for update means one thing...corrupted Windows files or installed wrong updates or deleted files one shouldn't delete. But my money is on constant checks are signs of corrupted Windows system files causing endless checks or reboot.

 

No it's a Microsoft issue. Do a clean install of Windows 7 and see how long it takes to show you updates. It immediately installs the patch for the new version of Windows Update but then it spends hours checking for updates unless you just bypass it.

 

Yup, this always happens to me during my latest Windows 7 clean installs.
During a recent clean install WU didn't manage to find any updates. It would search for an entire day, and wouldn't find anything.
For me step 4 in this guide fixed it (Minor Reset):
https://blog.krissmilne.tech/windows/windows-7/windows-7-stuck-on-checking-for-updates

 

I really like the offline updater, it works faster than Windows Update does all the way around and it's dead simple to use but no matter the fix, we never should have had to use it in the first place. Microsoft always breaks things and then doesn't fix them because there is no accountability for them. It's ridiculous.

 

hmm, every point you made is really wrong. Not trying to be an arse, but they are. Windows update tool on Windows 7 is crap, and if you are trying to avoid windows 10 telemetry, is not advisable to use. There is a KB download that fixes the hanging problem with a clean install, but still takes forever and a day to install them. The Simplix update tool is far better. After my clean install of 7, I have something like 224 updates. Simplix installs 80 at a time, then requires a reboot. I am awaiting the time when I screw up a registry setting, so I can try out my updated install.wim to see how it works.

 

One can not be so wrong....one never reads up about the MS Windows 7 cumulative April 2016 update package does one. I have yet to see Windows Update tool as crap only from your opinion only so far. It's worked so far for most even if MS has update issues it more or less is better then anything out there. Being a "Notebook Consultant" and not knowing about the MS April cumulative 2016 updates doesn't fit that title. As before user doing wrong updates is the majority of the constant restarts and recycle and checks.

 

If Microsoft coded Windows Update correctly, patches would check dependencies and there wouldn't be room for user error. Windows Update sucks, stop defending it or blaming it on user error when it really comes down to lazy coding.

 

Really? You seem unable to read what I posted. Obviously you know nothing about Simplix, and how it has the April cumulative update package integrated? Since a moderator started this thread, I will be kind, and refrain from calling someone childish, for suggesting a post count determines their knowledge.

 

I should point out that Linux manages packages just fine and it has a MUCH larger pool of potential issues due to the insane amount of packages available for installation. Linux has had the ability to prevent user error since at least 1998 via apt which prevents dpkg from installing something it didn't have the dependencies for. Also despite the sheer size of the catalog, Linux still manages to check for updates to all packages in the system faster than Windows can just for system updates. Again, lazy coding.

 

Both posters seem to have disdain for MS but still use it? Why, cause nothing else can do any better. If there is one tell me? MS Windows update was there for a reason so unless one can do better coding for MS update please show me?? I've already tried AutoUpdate a windows updater and found it will install Windows update that isn't needed and worse install wrong one and instead of helping caused more problems. And this was one of the better Windows Updater software that was to work better. Not all Windows installed computers use the same update something for x86 isn't the same for x64 O/S of Windows or within the O/S version not every computer uses the same updates. That is why using the Windows Update and you can choose to Auto update and Install or inform the user what to install then choose which to install or in inform user wait until another time to install knowing that the update won't change later. @Raiderman actually you did by using the word "childish" you did make the call. If that wasn't the case then why use that word - that to me is basically implying it already. It is up to the user to inform themselves and read-up about MS updates especially the April 2016 update that covers from Windows 7 sp1.

 

As I said in my post, Linux has done it better since at least 1998. If I wasn't a gamer, I would be on Linux exclusively but since I'm forced to use MS, I've found the Offline Updater to be an acceptable fix to all of MS' issues.

 

I have no disdain for MS, pre windows 8, but it has been well documented about the issues of WUS in windows 7. If you have a modicum of intelligence, you can figure which updates are needed for your particular system, and for what version of Windows you are running. Most people in this forum cherry pick the updates they want or do not want. So seemingly you have become the all knowing, all seeing Windows update "expert", yet have zero knowledge of anything that I have mentioned. You say you used autoupdate? What the hell is that? I am referring to an updater that has been in development for over 3 years, and is still being supported now. So you still do not know what you are talking about. You can continue to download a KB to fix a KB to fix Windows Update Service, on a fresh install if you wish.

As far as the childish comment, I was not the one whom suggested that a post count determined the amount of intelligence one has in a particular subject.

 

Autoupdater is pretty old ... it used to be our goto updater for 98/ME/2000/XP machines back when Windows Update was ran really slow when their successor was released. (It was slow to begin with, much slower than the current W7 WS state)

Their implementation doesn't translate well in the Vista or later. Plus It did too much as it did office, adobe ... and tried to be customizable that you can add other repos to it.

It was abandoned but it tried to reboot recently I think.

 

Microsoft admits to distributing Windows printing bugs in KB 3177725 and KB 3176493

tl;dr - speedup patch KB3177725 for Win 7 causes printer problems. Uninstall it after you've done your other updates if you run into printing issues.

 

Even better news - starting in October MS is going to take away Win 7/8.1 users' control over which updates they install.

https://www.askwoody.com/2016/win7-and-8-1-to-get-cumulative-updates/

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com...ervicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/

Time to start backing up drive images of current installs as well as securing copies of the Simplix packs or other bootable isos with incorporated updates.

 

Well that's a bunch of bull. Guess Windows Update is getting permanently disabled on my machine. They'll definitely use this roll up to break 7 and 8.1 to push people to 10 and it's not happening in its current state.

 

Ya, good luck pushing an update on me, when I dont even use Windows Update Service. I will just completely remove the whole shebang. More scare tactics from the Redmond Gestapo.

 

For an OS that supposedly is out of main stream support and into extended minimal support we get allot of changes. Wish they would just stick to the extended support for security issues etc..

 

Given the timing of when Windows Update went schizo, I would say this was Microsoft's plan all along to force everyone onto Windows 10.

Ingenious, but flawed. We can all disable Windows Update in Services.

 

Which is exactly why I said what I said lol