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    Windows 7 installation help for Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake laptops

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Atom Ant, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. alexhawker

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    Nope, I'm pretty sure that made it exclusive to Win10 for exactly this reason...
     
    alexhawker, Oct 19, 2017
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    Yea, I used rufus.
     
    Dantei, Oct 19, 2017
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  3. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    The easiest and best way to force people over on Win 10.
     
    Papusan, Oct 19, 2017
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What was the partition layout of USB MBR or GPT?
     
    Vasudev, Oct 20, 2017
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    I forced Rufus to use UEFI GPT but honestly, I didn't check what was after.
     
    Dantei, Oct 23, 2017
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    Just checked it with Diskpart - it's GPT partition.
     
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    Windows installed but after installation getting 0xc000000d error with bcd. Tried plenty of guides with repairing bcd like bootrec scanos etc. Still not working.
     
    Dantei, Oct 23, 2017
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  8. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Too sad you cannot manage to install Win 7 on your computer. Unfortunately I do not have Acer laptop to check if the same problem would occur also to me. Maybe check some Dell laptops or you have to go with Win 10...
     
    Atom Ant, Oct 23, 2017
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    @Dantei could also try Windows 8.1, at least it's stable, even though Windows 7 is preferred at least Windows 8.1 isn't Windows 10 :)
     
    hmscott, Oct 23, 2017
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    Anybody could mod the latest Intel driver for me? I mean the April month version works fine, but , because I going to reinstall the Windows, I'd like the newest drivers.
     
    HutchMcKinney, Oct 25, 2017
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  11. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    Check post #28 in this thread, very good youtube clip on how to do it.
     
    steberg, Oct 25, 2017
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  12. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    That is very nice guide there indeed and so simply. I guess this trick will also work for 8th Gen CPUs, since they use the same HD graphics as the 7th gens.
    Now I just wait for the I7-8700HQ Dell XPS 15...
     
    Atom Ant, Oct 26, 2017
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    Thanks for the info!

    Seems
    is the last driver which can be hacked.
     
    HutchMcKinney, Oct 29, 2017
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    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, it seems Intel found out about the hack, so all later versions are Win 10 only...
     
    steberg, Oct 29, 2017
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    kazafar Newbie

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    I found a newer driver on forums.laptopvideo2go.com and it's still mod-able (21.20.16.4821)
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c..._da2fefd2f6d1dbb9402ca12826058a93dd9777bf.cab (untouched, so you still need to mod it)
    edit: ah yes, and it doesn't include .exe files so you need to use the "have disk" way or as vasudev say use winaero tweaker.
     
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    kazafar, Nov 20, 2017
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    Vasudev, Nov 20, 2017
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    Cool! I didn't know that.
     
    kazafar, Nov 20, 2017
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    Yepp, this driver works great once modded, I used the have disk options, and all ok! Good find!
     
    steberg, Nov 20, 2017
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    kazafar Newbie

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    I'm glad it helped, but did you manage to install display audio driver? Because I can't seem to install it.
    edit: nvm, all you need is to mod it too.
     
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    I recently purchased an HP EliteBook 820 G4 configured with FreeDOS (no Windows OS). Windows 7 is no longer an option at the point of purchase for these PCs (it's either Windows 10 or FreeDOS), but I wanted to install Windows 7 on it because my computers at work all use Windows 7.

    I purchased Windows 7 retail DVD from a third party and after installation I was given an alert that the processor was unsupported. After doing some research, I discovered that Microsoft is blocking new (7th gen Intel and later) processors from support for Windows 7. This doesn't make sense to me, because Windows 7 is still officially supported until 2020, and my new computer obviously meets the system requirements for Windows 7.

    I want to say that I am pretty angry, I think that blocking support from newer processors just to get more people on-board with Windows 10 is a very user-hostile move. I can't return Windows 7 to the retailer since I've opened it, so I don't know what to do at this point.
     
    wiivile, Nov 26, 2017
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    Installing Windows 7 on Kaby Lake, Skylake, Coffee Lake and NVME - LIVE
     
    hmscott, Nov 26, 2017
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    You could run W7 in a VM with a license key.
     
    Vasudev, Nov 27, 2017
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    For those of you who have installed Windows 7 on Kaby Lake, are you using WSUS Offline to get updates? Or ziffy's patch?
     
    wiivile, Nov 28, 2017
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    I install Simplix Pack from time to time. It is the best and easiest. Otherwise by me Windows 7 automatic update is disabled. Probably would work with some hack, but i like to keep everything under my control.
     
    JKnows, Nov 28, 2017
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Seems like Windows 10 - Bloatware Free Edition has just failed. One more reason to stick with Windows 7. As I mentioned before, no matter what we do with Win 10 won't be like Win 7. And when so many tweaks are done to Win 10, it will malfunction, certain things won't work correctly or at all, or use intense CPU power.
    So much better to figure out how to install Windows 7, after just drivers (and Simplix Pack) needed!
     
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    Atak_Snajpera, Dec 5, 2017
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Thanks for posting. I've added your tool to the guide as an alternative option!
     
    Atom Ant, Dec 9, 2017
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    A nice tool but only for people needing proper drivers. In my case it wouldn't work cause my laptop doesn't provide any Legacy/CSM options, so any Windows 7 installation will result in BSODs.
     
    Dantei, Dec 10, 2017
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  29. Atak_Snajpera

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    Did you disable SECURE BOOT? When did you get BSOD? At the very beginning of installation process or after first reboot? What error message did you get?
     
    Atak_Snajpera, Dec 10, 2017
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    Secure Boot disabled.

    The first boot after the installation process. It seems the error has something to do with the missing boot manager. Already tried plenty of solutions but none of them actually fixed the problem. I assume that not all laptops with 7th generation CPU can have Windows 7 installed properly. Most likely the laptop's manufacturer didn't include Legacy Mode with my laptop. We're speaking about Acer VN7-793G. Using NVMe protocol instead of SATA.
     
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    Which NVMe SSD are you using? If its Samsung then download the driver only version from win-raid.com and upon installing W7 use browse driver and give the samsung driver secnvme.inf
     
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    The one from Samsung. I also tried installing using SSD SATA drive and still got BSOD.

    I forgot to mention. I'm using Samsung 960 EVO drive on M.2 NVMe.
     
    Dantei, Dec 10, 2017
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    Download the drivers from this link and Use Browse driver option and choose the inf file in the folder.
    https://mega.nz/#!sEMWRb7B!GzE-nT5VRM3xyjsRaPzRbbi4qVp7MQ8OSLrX1cJSXhM
     
    Vasudev, Dec 11, 2017
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    @Dantei
    It would be much helpful if you took a picture of BSOD. I'm really curious what went wrong there.
    Few months ago one user successfully installed win 7 x64 after using my app on kabylake desktop pc.
    He was also using Samsung NVMve SSD as bootable drive so this means that he was also forced to use non legacy mode. He said that everything went smoothly without any issues.

    https://tinyurl.com/ycpzjvzc
     
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    I managed to install Windows 7 on my 2nd HDD. Used the tool delivered from Atak_Snajpera which seems to helped alot. But now after the installation and the first boot I get the booting logo and it stops. Doesn't go any further.

    [​IMG]
     
    Dantei, Dec 11, 2017
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    Does safe mode work?
     
    Atak_Snajpera, Dec 11, 2017
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    Just tried using it. It stops at ahcix64.sys.
    I'll try reinstalling Windows with Intel Rapid Storage drivers instead of the one integrated.
     
    Dantei, Dec 11, 2017
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    kazafar, Dec 12, 2017
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    I'm afraid that even the Intel RST drivers didn't help. Still won't go any further than the boot screen.
     
    Dantei, Dec 12, 2017
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    Atak_Snajpera, Dec 12, 2017
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    I took the latest official. Used the Load driver option.

    When using Safe Mode it stops at ahcix64.sys.
     
    Dantei, Dec 12, 2017
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    It's weird because I don't even have that file on my two Windows 7 x64 PC. I've scanned whole Windows folder and zero results. Are you 100% sure that you didn't mean ahcix64s.sys ?
     
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    I made a typo. Yes, it's with ahcix64s.sys.
     
    Dantei, Dec 13, 2017
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    Ok. It looks like windows decided for some unknown reason to install ahci driver for AMD Chipset on Intel platform !!! Very bizarre!
    Try this.
    1) Delete whole folder in my app Drivers\x64\Others\AMD Chipset
    2) Update again whole image using clean untouched win7 image.
     
    Atak_Snajpera, Dec 13, 2017
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    Deleted the folder, burned a new ISO into USB drive. Installed Windows 7 and now it stops at asstor64.sys. It has to do something with SATA controller AFAIK, at least according to google.
     
    Dantei, Dec 14, 2017
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    The same as above.
    Let's do something radical.
    This time go to x64\Storage controllers
    and delete everything except Intel AHCI and Samsung NVMe folder.
     
    Atak_Snajpera, Dec 15, 2017
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    Will do. Pff, the price of freedom is really high :)
     
    Dantei, Dec 15, 2017
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    I hope we will learn something valuable form these tests ;)
     
    Atak_Snajpera, Dec 15, 2017
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    At first I thought it might have something to do with my NVMe drive (Samsung). It would have Windows 7 installed on it but I don't want to lose all my data. First I have to be sure it's gonna work on my 2nd HDD.

    BTW@Pozdrowienia dla rodaka :)
     
    Dantei, Dec 15, 2017
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    What if we have an old laptop (late 2012) to install Windows 7 on where we load up the extra drivers necessary for the new machine (late 2017) and then swap the drive to the new machine?

    The late 2012 machine actually has a hybrid BIOS/UEFI but I've never even used the UEFI since the first thing I did was rip Windows 8 out and install Windows 7 when I got it.

    Would there be anything to gain from trying to go that route or would it be an equal **** show?
     
    Maleko48, Dec 15, 2017
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