Windows 7 weird Score for 9500 m GS

My gaming score is 6.1 while Areo score is 4.9?

My 9500 m GS:

Core: 600 Mhz
Shader: 1300 Mhz
Memory Speed: 400Mhz
Memory: 512 Mb DDR2

 

I have the same "problem" here with my Mobility HD3470. For gaming graphics, it lists 5.7 and for Aero it lists 4.7. In Vista, I had 4.7 for Aero and 4.8 for gaming graphics. Nothing you can really do about it.

 

I wonder if this happens only to Mobile GPU's. I even overclocked my card and it only uped my rating .4. I still find it perplexing.

 

Windows 7 WEI is calculated WAY different then Vista's. It's more accurate and realistic in Win7, however, it still isn't very useful as a real benchmark.

 

Yet, many laymen thought that it's true and believe it.
I would say this feature is not for benchmarking due poor accuracy, wrong informations, non-precise and illogic(sometime), it's generally marketing strategic.

 

I have the same thing happening. My 3650 gets a 6.1, and my Aero is something like a 5.3.

What's even more weird though is that my 3650 actually gets a better gaming score than a 9800M GS, when any 9800M card would slap mine silly.

 

the reason, i guess, is, the gaming bench checks for shader availability and performance, for triangle draw capabilities, and such.

for aero, you don't need any of those (there is a shader for the glass effect, but it's a simple shader). what it measures there is raw pixel fillrate (as you might have to draw quite some high res big windows), and maybe memory bandwith for quickly transferring from gpu to main memory (as the window gets rendered on cpu/mainmem and has to quickly get transferred over.

in short, requirements for aero are completely different than requirements for games. it's much more about memory bandwith than games ever are. and nothing about 3d capabilities.


just consider it. on a full hd screen, aero has to handle several "full hd textures", that's 1920x1080 textures. and each app has an own one. and it has to get updates from main memory to video memory very fast.

that is a workload no game ever has.

if you can overclock or underclock gpu speed and gpu memory speed individually, you can try out if that affects the numbers. i haven't tried that yet, could be interesting.

 

I already have, it increased by 0.4.

 

For such a "high" workload Aero still isn't that impressive.

 

actually, it is.

and i don't say it's a high workload. i say it's a completely different workload.

and a gpu can well be designed for games, and more than good enough for aero. but that doesn't mean it's designed with aero's bottlenecks in mind, and thus doesn't get a such a high ranking.



what is aero? a glitch free windowing system that finally removes apps from the need to care about the drawing of other windows, shifting all that to a central place: the gpu. where it fits best. by doing so, it enables a lot of interesting side effects, including better visuals.


but in the end, it's just a windowing system. so the amount of impressive parts it can do can only go so far..

 

On my HDX18, without overclocking the 9600M GT, Aero's score is a 4.8 at 1920x1080.
Overclocking it to 685MHz Core, 1760MHz Shader and 565MHz Memory gave me a 5.6; the gaming score went from 6.1 o 6.4.

My old GeForce 6200 with 256MB dedicated DDR2 only gets a 2.5 in 7, but i remember it getting around a 4 or something when I used it with Vista.

 

Drivers can make a difference with WEI scores, getting 6.8 with notebook drivers and 7.1 with the desktop ones.

 

Of course, you could manually lower your score so that it doesn't seem so unusual, by editing the file that it reads from.

 

I think it has something to with mobile cards throttling down when they arent rendering 3d graphics, my 2900 Pro scores 6.7 for both in my desktop.

 

right. i forgot that one.

workload is completely different, requiring different parts of the gpu to work hard, and yeah, in aero, gpu's should be throttled down.

yeah. i just checked. i have the same numbers on the desktop for aero and gaming. (but the gpu in my desktop actually does throttle down.. one can hear it if it goes "to work" ueeeehhhhhhhhh-fan-alert )

 

yea I notice on riva tuner there are 3 main settings for my GPU's core, shader and memory clock.

2D, and low power 3D and performance 3D.

At 2D my speeds are: 169 core, 338 shader, and 168 mem.
At lower power 3D: 275 core, 550 shader, and 200 mem.
At Performance 3D: 550 core, 1250 shader, and 400 mem.

 

Wow, this has been a great thread. I didn't know much of this about aero, to be honest.

Thanks for sharing guys!