Windows 7 with Multiple browsers

Now that MS is to offer the EU the choice of no browser or many browsers are they still going to be full retail copies or?

Was it another EU requirement that the copies were full and not upgrades as i can't fine the info.

I'd be gutted if we end up with crappy upgrade copies after all this.

 

If you mean, if Windows 7 is the same in the US as it is for EU countries (minus IE8), then yes.

Here's a link that I found helpful.

 

What i meant is that in the US the upgrade IS an upgrade.

In Europe MS are providing/were providing a full retail version as an upgrade, i thnk due to some EU stuff.. Just wondering if now that they have added other browsers does that mean it will still be the full retail version as upgrade or?

Or maybe that was ANOTHER condition of selling set by the EU

 

Its a freak'n joke, all notebooks come with Windows 7 w/out IE8 in Europe, but they do come with an IE8 install disc so you can install IE8 when you buy your notebook.

 

That is better than to run around yourself and try to get a browser. Not many users are that savvy. I know for fact my mum is not.

Next round - Opera will now sue the notebook manufacturers for unfair practice

cheers ...

 

Microsoft is looking into (if everyone is happy), to have a panel of sorts, somewhere, where the user can pick a web browser of choice which will be downloaded and installed. Microsoft will try to include all web browsers with 0.5% or higher of market share for Windows OS.

 

Without being able to install IE8, how would you go online on your freshly installed OS and download a new browser to use?

 

It's going to be a ballot box type screen, with the OEMs getting a chance to pre-install a browser during build. More than likely, the pre-install will be the norm. Only the niche tech saavy people give a crap about what browser they use.

And most businesses will continue to use IE due to it's ease of mass installation, Group Policy Integration, etc etc.

This is the Netscape vs IE issue all over again. Back then, I actually though Microsoft was doing all of us a favor by bundling IE, since few people even knew what the Internet was back then. Of course, it crushed Netscape, but overall, it gave instant legitimacy to the internet and accelerated its mainstream adoption rate.

 

This is exactly what Microsoft is hoping for

cheers ...

 

Indrek

You got me spot on.

Personally I want a full retail version at upgrade prices and don't care if i have no browser,400 browsers etc. I just want to keep the retail version rather than get a crappy upgrade. A clean install is always the best way to install in any case

 

All that will end up happening is the Opera will file another complaint to the EU as it's not what they wanted to see happen. I've been playing around with Opera 10 Beta for a couple of weeks and find it to be about the same. I do however prefer IE8 as my online bank doesn't like firefox, opera, or google chrome. don't know why just it never displays the login correctly.
As for MS giving this crap that they can't remove IE when you do an update and as such they will require you to do a full install with the update disks (you need a valid XP or Vista disk to use it) why? Why can't they just remove it or at least cripple it when you upgrade. It's not like you actually need it for Windows to run and you can remove it if you want to with Win7 anyway.

 

Probably by IP address. Kinda surprised they're pushing it to XP users, too, as they weren't planning to give XP any non-security updates after April, and we all know IE8 is the most secure browser... right? Even Vista is a bit surprisingly, seeing as with Win7 right over the horizon it doesn't seem like it would be necessary to do this with Vista. Then again, this is the EC we're talking about, so maybe Microsoft figured they'd be extra-safe.

 

I won't be surprised if the EC bring to court Microsoft because it was not adapted to Win95, 98, CE, NT3 and NT4.x. I mean EC needs money.

 

Good news for preorders

http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/news/2009/08/04/Microsoft-Answers-Our-Windows-7-E-Queries/p1

 

Also good news for those who wanted in-place upgrades.