Windows 8 Highlights.

Windows 8 Rumor Roundup: Facial Recognition, Much Faster Startup, App Store on Tap
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Windows 8 Plans Leaked: Numerous Details Revealed | Windows 8, Windows Phone 8, Office 15 | Stephen Chapman @ MSFTKitchen

Windows 8 App store sounds nice. Faster start up(just like Vista ) But, remember some stuff may not actually get in the OS. Before Vista came, MS said that it would have NTFS replacement. Well, for those who don't know. Windows 7 still uses NTFS. I'll post more links.


**If the links don't work for you go to laptopmag.com for the first link and msftkitchen.com for the second.

 

I'm interested however the links don't work for me

 

links work ok here
interesting read.thanks for posting.

 

Nobody ever talked about a replacement for NTFS. What you may be referring to is WinFS, which would have constituted a layer on top of NTFS.

 

Sorry, I heard it called NTFS replacement once.

 

These should be taken with a grain of salt, at best...

Ignore Leaked Windows 8 slides - News - Fudzilla

 

If this is true, I am only really excited about 2 things.

Faster Startup
Reset Button

Other than that, it doesn't sound very promising (I don't like the App idea because I don't like buying things that I use for my computer except games).

 

Windows 8 in 2012, Beta as Early as 2011

 

I can't wait for the beta

 

So is Windows 8 going to be built on the NT Kernal/as an evolution of Vista again, or are they going to do something new this time, like what they were originally trying to do with Longhorn?

Sounds to me that with Windows 8, Microsoft will be nailing down the last (many) little things that'll bring it about on parity with Mac OS X. (Faster bootup times, built-in ambient light sensor support, quick and easy reinstalls, and so on). I wonder if they'll finally get rid of the registry with Windows 8? The removal of the registry system and cleaner application installing and removal are my biggest desires out of Windows 8.

 

No idea what you could be referring to with the "new" they were supposedly be doing with the Longhorn kernel but, yes, of course, Win8 will be built on an evolution of the WinNT kernel.

The chance of that happening is exactly zero. Besides, there is nothing wrong with the registry at all. The fact that some application installers make a mess of things has nothing to do with flaws in Windows, or of the registry. You cannot "remove the registry system" without completely breaking application compatibility. If this was Apple we are talking about, they wouldn't think twice about breaking all of their customers' applications but, thankfully, Microsoft tends to show some concern for their customers...

 

Well perhaps then we could see a stronger level of enforcement from Microsoft's side in what a program must comply to do when installing and uninstalling. That could potentially work just as well, right? And it wouldn't break compatibility.

Though in the days of virtualization, such breaks in compatibility may soon no longer be such a great concern.

 

I wouldn't mind (almost)instant on windows...please microsoft?

 

It's a shame that we are forced into using windows because games and apps require windows. I can almost guarantee if all software worked equally well on all OS's windows would be the lowest selling OS

 

Really? Why?

 

I'm not into software much anymore but have just gone though a refresher
course having bought a new laptop with Windows 7 on it. I've been reading
quite a bit since my knowledge stopped at XP. One thing that struck me while
browsing Microsoft's technical sites is that it's almost as though Windows was
sliding towards Unix. A lot of changes to Windows are to things that Unix has
always had. A big one that still hasn't happened, but I don't see it far away,
is concurrent multi-user (Windows may have some similar capability already
but it's not the base model as far as I can tell).

Twenty to thirty years ago I worked on Unix machines while Windows was
coming into existence, and we all hated DOS the architecture. I seem to
recall our Unix kernel was somewhere around 128 Kb. Looks like Microsoft,
and other application providers, are suddenly interested in making lean,
quick loading programs. Seems kind of ironic that Windows could come full
circle and end up running on Unix.

Paul P

 

What, exactly does Windows 8 bring to the table that a update/service pack couldn't bring to Windows 7? I mean, is 7 even a year old yet? And theyre already talking about another OS? I mean, I understand wanting to get ready and all...but I just dont feel that unless there is some astronomical reason behind it that we really NEED a new OS...ya know? Like I said, I dont see anything in Windows 8 that can't be done on Windows 7...hell, if the screen shots are real (which I doubt all of them are) it would be built off of Windows 7 anyways...so obviously theyre implementing all this stuff into the core W7 OS already...I dont know, just seems like a waste...

 

I wonder what the "version number" will be for Windows 8?
Windows 2000 = NT 5.0
Windows XP = NT 5.1
Windows Server 2003 = NT 5.2
Windows Vista, Server 2008 = NT 6.0
Windows 7, Server 2008 R2 = NT 6.1
Windows 8 = ?

 

Is Windows 8 being built by the same team as Vista and ME? Just like Windows 7 is built by the team that built XP? If so, I'm going to skip Windows 8 entirely...

 

What about hardware?

 

Windows 7 was built upon Vista. So you should go back to XP.

 

I thought there are two MS teams, and they alternatively release OSes? Perhaps I have been having the wrong impression all this while

 

Windows has had that capability for years. Since Windows XP you could have multiple users logged in and active concurrently.

Windows ME has just about nothing at all to do with the later (NT-kernel based) versions of Windows. Windows 7 is built on Vista; as a matter of fact, Windows 7 essentially is Vista, with some minor tweaks here and there.

What ever gave you that idea?

 

Yes. I like to compare Windows 7 with the Xbox 360 "slim". Both are basically the same (but tweaked) as their predecessor, but they have to market them "new" to bypass the bad reputation of the product who came before.

The X360S for instance, it is not smaller, nor does it comsume less than the original, it just has the redesigned 45nm CGPU that won't RROD. They change the case in order for people to not have the impression it will RROD.

 

That's exactly the point of Windows 7. I always emphasize that Vista's bad reputation is undeserved, and the proof of that can be seen in the success of Win7. Same OS, a bit of polish and paint, and voila, here's the greatest OS Microsoft has ever made...

 

Really?

 

Maybe it's the voices in my head

Hmm, I'll try and dig things up... else I need to see a psychiatrist

(Later): I found this on Wikipedia (ok maybe not that reliable but anyways...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows

It says that MS has two parallel tracks: a consumer and professional track. I think that's where I got my impressions from: the professional tracks are more stable. Perhaps I'm not that crazy after all

If that's true, then Windows 7 is the professional track, and Windows 8 will be the consumer track. The consumer track releases focus on new user-related stuff, which is why Windows 7's interface is very similar to Vista's: Windows 7 focuses on issues other than user-interface, which is copied from Vista.

 

Since this is a notebook forum... I for one would be pleased if Micro$oft blessed us with more than 2 power plans to choose from the quick menu on the taskbar this time. -.-

 

That's what they had when they first released Windows NT. However, the secret of obtaining useful information is to read more than just bits and pieces: Those two tracks were merged back together with the development of Windows XP, almost ten years ago. Windows XP represented a major change for consumer OSes, in that it was the first consumer OS built on the Windows NT kernel. From then on, both consumer and professional versions of Windows were built on the same kernel, and shared the exact same code base.

Not crazy, but wildly uninformed.

That's complete nonsense. You may notice that since Windows XP, all of Microsoft's OSes were released in "Home" and "Professional" versions.

That's pretty much the opposite of what really happened: Internally, Win7 is pretty much identical with Vista, but the user interface has been updated.

 

Wow, you're quite intense and insulting. I've taken the effort to look for and point out the two tracks, you've not provided any references and just stated your opinion.

I wish you well sir, in whatever you do in your future.

 

Nothing I said was insulting in any way, nor was it meant to be. All I am saying is that your wild idea, of two development teams at Microsoft alternatingly developing versions of Windows, has no basis in reality, nor does this even make the slightest amount of sense.

What I said has nothing to do with opinion, it's simple facts. Facts, moreover, that are well known. If you had indeed both read and understood the reference you yourself provided, you could have seen the very same facts right there. There is absolutely no need to provide any references beyond that.

 

It's a pass for me if 8 is based on 7 and vista. The 7 is no different from vista, file system slow and usb problem . It freak me out. Not bashing, but really got tired.

 

There must be a problem with your computer, my Windows 7 is sweet.

 

In my opinion windows should be heading more towards a browsing friendly os or at least have the choice between different ways. Im sure there are better ways but this one i can give an example.

Something like this: https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/2207/

 

Agreed, i've been running both Linux Mint 9 and Windows 7 on my Vostro 1500 and believe it or not Windows 7 screams compared to Mint 9. Linux doesn't use a registry, nor does it require defrag etc, etc. It feels slower for some reason. Granted i'm a Linux noob but I thought Linux would be sooooo much faster than a Windows OS. I guess I was mistaken.

While we find things to complain about I can say honestly that Windows 7 runs faster than Vista, Linux on my laptop. I would compare Windows 7 to XP in system response. Overall I give high marks for what they did with Windows 7.

 

I thought that too, but when files number and sizes grow in the folder, that is not the case. It crawls. USB detection is slow compared to vista. I know enough how to keep computer clean.

 

Win 8 and Office 15 been cooking for over a year.

 

Vostro 1500 T5270, 160GB HDD, 8400m GS, 3GB Corsair PC5300, 1280x800 Rez


With that sort of hardware, Windows 7 would be much faster than Linux Mint 9 and Windows XP, especially in terms of application boot time (via "RAM caching"; fetching) and overall speed increasing (due to kernel improvements).
Linux Mint 9 is a good choice for at the moment, I believe they just resolved some issues regarding display and graphics drivers. Helena had some strange quirks when dealing with my GeForce 6200.
But on the long term, consider Debian or (my favourite) Slax (Slackware based).


Having just bought Windows 7, I'm quite impressed with the added functionality, customizability and streamlining thus far... but that could be my hex-core acting up.
That having said, I'm still looking forward to Windows 8

What I was truly disappointed with is Chess Titans.
They haven't managed to improve it since Vista.
Not to be disparaging... but I've seen monkeys with more strategical coordination and squirrels with more foresight.

Watching the computer (on max difficulty) defend against any coordinated attack is like watching Superman vs Kryptonite where:
Superman - You
Kryptonite - Nowhere
Pathetic Villain - Chess Titans program

 

Why virtualize when you can run in a sandbox? No performance penalty FTW !

 

Windows 8 already?!?

I'll be using Win 7 for the first time tomorrow...

 

I'd be interested in knowing how to have multiple users active simultaneously. Having just done a bit of research on the matter it looks like Window XP SP2 had the capability but it was removed with SP3. On my XP desktop the system logs out the current user when someone else logs in. There is a patch available that may solve the problem but it doesn't look like it works in non-English Windows. And playing around with trying to do this I just picked up two viruses so I'll give up for the moment.

Windows 7 may very well have the capability but I haven't tried since I don't need it on my laptop.

Edit: It seems that there's a difference between Windows supporting multiple concurrent users
and Microsoft letting you do so.

 

Yes, that's a crucial difference. To be honest, I haven't used that capability in a long time, so I was going from my recollection and experiences back with WinXP. But, yes, this is mostly about Microsoft reserving the capability of supporting multiple active users simultaneously to their server OSes. On the other hand, I don't see too many consumers clamoring for that capability...

 

Ah, things are becoming clearer. Windows can handle things but you need
multiple licences if you're going to be more than one on the same machine.
I just looked at a licencing page at Microsoft - scary. Funny, I was just
going through the services in my XP machine seeing which ones I could
disable and there is the Terminal Server, active and running, with the
description that it offers multi-user access. Like heck...

Now that I just bought a laptop I'd like to be able to use it to log into my
XP desktop when my wife is also using it. I thought I'd be able to do that
with remote desktop but it boots her off first.

Sorry for dragging this thread off topic...

Paul P

 

quite interesting, and i will wait for a beta version to try it

 

I wonder if there will be like ~800 leaked betas again

 

Microsoft realized the importance of software (right from the very beginning, actually) and made it easy to make software on their OS, and targeted an affordable platform. Smart for business, and better for consumers than a market where it wasn't easy to make applications for any platform.

Can't say any of the leaked features sound earth-shattering. But it's a lot harder to come up with something earth-shattering when you already have a really good platform. Like blackspider, I'll be skeptical until proven otherwise as long as Windows is essentially based on Vista (kernel version 6.x).