Windows 9 Release Date Sept 30th?

Microsoft's Windows 9: Much ado about little, given cloud shift | ZDNet

"Microsoft will reportedly launch Windows 9 on September 30 and could ultimately be known as the last of the software giant's big bang operating system releases."

 

No, that's just exceedingly poor phrasing in this article. Right now, as written a couple of lines below the ones you quoted, release is scheduled for spring '15. As always, this date can be expected to slip some.

 

September 30th is when they release the Beta on msdn.com.
Maybe I finally can leave this Win 7 to rest?

 

I'm baffled by the argument that an increased emphasis on cloud computing means that operating systems don't matter as much anymore. It doesn't matter if all your data is in the cloud instead of in on-device storage; you're still going to be using a physical device with an operating system to access and work on that data.

 

Yeah. There's a strong suspicion here that the author of this piece simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

I have to agree, these are total dumbfounded comments. About the only truism is getting something out to get over windows 8.x as the recent scuttlebutt.

 

I hope this answers your question. Actually a bunch of people seem to be getting confusing expectations from various posts on the internet, so I think everyone's just feeding off one bad set of words from Microsoft or whoever.

 

That about sums up M$ brain drain....right down the toilet...yeah like how will I get my Cloud O/S in the boondocks without any internet makes the computer pretty worthless to use as a boat anchor.

That about sums up the M$ mindset not real expectations of listening to what the consumer market wants a Windows like 7 O/S but with Metro and let them customize it how they want it UI or W7 desktop. This can't be so hard they can't figure this out? This should be the thinking at M$ but nope they think where the SUN don't shine right now.

 

The assertion that OSes don't matter with cloud computing came from ZDnet, not from Microsoft.

That's EXACTLY what the next version of Windows is going to be according to all leaks and teaser images to date. Tiles can be pinned to either the desktop's start menu or a full-screen start screen, and metro apps can be displayed in windows on the desktop, or full-screen or split-screened in the metro UI. Non-touchscreen machines will never have to see the start screen and will never have to launch a metro app unless the user wants to (conversely, 8"-10" slate users will never have to dip into the desktop unless they choose to).

 

And this is how it should have been from day one release for Windows 8. If they do this right, they will have won many users' faith back I'm sure.

 

possibly a bit more clarity?

Windows 9 ‘Technical Preview’ may have click-to-upgrade system | Gearburn

 

My frustration is that all of this "cloud-based" computing is not taking into account that the US is a 3rd-world country when it comes to Internet connections for the general public.

Having moved to MS lately... you get to see just how bad it is. Most families here do without. Seriously, unlimited 28.8 dial-up is actually superior to what they have.
Many entire communities huddle around 1.44Mbit leased lines run to libraries.

All of this isn't because we don't have the technology to upgrade, or even that no one can make a profit by putting in the technology and reselling; it's because its actually more profitable for government-enabled monopolies to block progress and force-feed outdated service and archaic limitations on people than to let the technology naturally grow.

There is a company who wants to build a 1Gbit fiber network being repeatedly held up by political red tape. Meanwhile people not 5 minutes drive from campus get to deal with heavily-limited satellite or cell-tower 3G (at 1 bar or less) Internet. Sadly, this is typical.

With this kind of epic feet-dragging, how are we expected to become this cloud-based computing model?
Kinda how we were expected to love Windows 8's new interface.

The devil is in the details gentlemen.

/sigh

 

That a understatement....they could care less now if they got regulated and said if you don't fix someone else will come and fix they will wake up....meaning True "Free market" if you can't do it and someone can they will get the money and support not you. That will not only force them to do it but will also break them should they refuse to do it.

They know it and could care less....want real change get those lazy bums out of Congress and get people in that will do serious damage to those Lobbyists entrenched BUMS and willing to do the hard work and address the elephant the room and you will see real progress not talking progress or no work progress.

No this is called entrenched Lobbyists and Stone Age Incumbents that can't see past their fat pork bellies to see their feets. What we need is a dissolvment of Congress on a National Scale and that will make them really wake and smell the roses and the smells aren't roses they are smelling.

 

So far I have read windows 9 is windows 8.2-code name threshold and I would not hold my breathe that it will be a revelation in Ose's

Cheers
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will this release be free like Apples Maverick?

 

You must be new to M$. :laugh:

This is Windows 9, not a Windows 8 service pack. It's gonna be a full-priced OS.

 

Actually, there has been speculation that indeed Microsoft may provide this as a free upgrade. Those are just rumors, of course, but who knows. Certainly anyone suffering through the Win8.x interregnum would deserve to have that POS replaced with a real OS for free...

Seriously, though: I'll believe that rumor when I see the announcement from Microsoft. It is not impossible, however. Microsoft needs to put up a fight against the advent of those Chromebooks, and they are already providing Win8 for free to OEMs for certain (low-end) classes of PCs.

 

Well Win 7 sure wasn't free after the stillborn child known as Vista. I doubt it will be free. Perhaps a limited time discount for Win 8 owners.

 

Like I said, I doubt it myself. But, keep in mind, compared to the utter disaster that is Windows 8.x, Windows Vista was a runaway success.

 

The market has changed somewhat since Vista and Windows 8 has demonstrated that users no longer have to swallow whatever comes out of M$.

John

 

I do hope you wrong when they release W9...if it still has Metro forced onto users...then it will be more disaster after another.

 

I'm still using Windows 7, just have to ask: how bad was windows 8? Memory leaks? BSoDs?

 

As far as an OS the system had no more issues for memory leaks that Windows 7, both are pretty solid.

Windows 8.0 and then 8.1 have both had more than their fair share of driver issues. This can of course cause BSOD's. So needless to say YMMV as far as having a system that has those pesky blue screens.

 

For most people (including myself), the bad of Windows 8 is the user interface. While there have been some compatability issues, the biggest issue has been the learning curve needed to use it well and how switching between Modern/Metro and desktop modes is required for regular use. The interface changes make the operating system considerably more difficult to use, which hurts productivity.

 

I wouldn't say it's required for regular use. I never use or see metro apps, period.


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What are some "regular use" scenarios that require switching between Modern and Desktop modes?

 

Click the start menu icon...

 

Windows 95: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows 98: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows NT4: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows 2000: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows Me: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows XP: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows Vista: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows 7: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows 8: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Windows 8.1: Click Start, click the thing you want to run.
Probablt Win9: : Click Start, click the thing you want to run.

"learning curve?"

 

^You don't get it...

 

You asked:

I said:

Question answered. No learning curve required.

 

Searching for programs, virtually anything to do with settings, and yes, clicking the start menu icon

The issue is in consistency in look and expectations. Windows 8 was a radical overhaul of the user interface and, for most computer users, different = hard to learn and therefore bad. Or to put it another way, for those who are used to previous Windows versions or even Mac OS versions, Windows 8 is unintuitive. Sure, people can learn how to use it, and some even prefer it. But most don't want an operating system with a learning curve, in a similar fashion to how it's disconcerting to drive somewhere in a country where they drive on the opposite side of the street.

 

It's not even the learning curve really. It's just the disconnect from one gui to another.

 

It's not even a disconnect going from one GUI to the other, IMO. The entire design lacks proper flow and consistency. How about this for starters. Windows 8 was supposed to do things automatically, right?

1) Why is it on a fresh install, I enable "LOCATION" and it always defaults to the Left Coast when i'm on the East Coast?

2) Windows Defender is supposed to do things automatically including scans along with the annoying "Daily Maintenance Task" which includes a WD Scan but prompts you annoyingly that YOU HAVEN'T PERFORMED A SCAN in X number of Days?

3) The Charms Menu is just a duplicate of the same functions in the GUI. I guess MS loves there "auto hide" menu bars. Someone must have thought this looks cool.

4) Flipping thru open tasks is pure headache inducing when the screen zooms out and zooms in.

5) The "auto DPI scaling" stinks when you install an Nvidia driver in W 8.1 as it auto scales to the highest DPI and you have to set it back to "smallest" but now your Charms Menu and Wifi Menu's have gotten noticeably larger in a permanent way.

I however do like the Menu shortcuts from the Start Button. I still say at the core Windows 8/8.1 improves the OS at it's core in stability and in most cases performance but it dies a horrible death with the GUI.

 

I have to give my son a bit of a hard time because he just got a job at Microsoft. He is assigned to one of the many teams involved with cloud computing. More specifically, his team deals with a singular function of a cloud page GUI such as the implementing of a button to make a selection. It's good for him to make such a good living right out of college but I have no use for the cloud or for most of the things that have changed in windows 8. I really hope windows 9 will be the "oops, we messed up with 8 and are correcting it with 9" operating system.

My laptop is not a tablet or phone so I have no use for a forced app type interface. I can afford plenty of hard drive so I have no desire to have a cloud or anyone else to store my information.

I am looking forward to w9 and hope it will correct what I don't like about w8, otherwise I may simply revert back to windows 7. If MS would just realize everyone doesn't want or need apps, cloud, MS account etc. in their OS and make future OS's with the ability to easily retain classic functionality within the GUI they would have a more acceptable OS.

 

I haven't seen it be wrong for me in Win8 specifically, but I've had other locational things (not Win8) get the location wrong due to the IP I was being assigned. Some ISPs just use totally random IP ranges over multiple geographical locations. VPN also confuses the heck out of it.

I've only had that on computers I have not actually turned on in X number of days. On my three daily drivers, they have never done this.

There are things that cannot be changed from desktop mode. The logon and lock screen wallpapers, for example, have no direct desktop controls. Things that are only accessible or applicable to Win8 mode don't tend to have desktop tweaks. The charms menu is weird for people who avoid Win8 styled apps, but I run a few and the charms menu now seems natural for me in those apps.

I guess there's an animation? I've been disabling animations OS-wise since as long as I can remember so I don't know. With Win8.1, like Win8 and Win7 and Vista, this is done through Control Panel > Ease of Access > Make it easier to focus on tasks > disable all unnecessary animation.

The DPI stuff is still having personality disorder issues but it's better than Win7 which is just goofy on HiDPI. HiDPI is "broken in Windows" and is not restricted to a particular version.

 

According to Microsoft, Windows 9 will be even more aggressive in it's sleep wake cycles. I referenced an article in another post which basically says you can expect W9 to idle the CPU far more like 100x p/s (W8) vs 1000x p/s (W9)