As Tanware wrote he missed this, I thought other users have probably missed this too:
If you are still running Win 7 or 8 Home, buy yourself an Upgrade to the Pro version before you upgrade to Windows 10. The difference is simply, that the upgrade of Win 7 Home to Win 7 Pro to Win 10 Pro costs 15€, while an upgrade from Win 10 Home to Pro costs 50-100€ more (don't know exact numbers) .
This is really very easy, you buy the code on eBay, get it per mail on the same day, type it in the upgrade-task in the system-control-menu, verify per telephone (you don't have to speak to anyone, this is fully automatized) , and instantly you own the Pro version that saves you many nerves and also has some nice extra-features.
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The advantages of the pro version of W7 is the 16GB ram limit primarily. That and the pro upgrade to W10, I however want to see the Enterprise version offered to casual users to avoid the forced hardware upgrades. I would also hope this version has much better privacy safety as well, but we have yet to see this on either front.
Edit; As it was pointed out to me though, buyer beware. these sales are littered with fraud and piracy.Last edited: Oct 30, 2015 -
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Also I got some land in USSR I want to sell you as well. Anyone buying into this is a scam that are used and blacklisted keys and MS will find out and blacklist. You want a legit Product Key buy it from Microsoft.Seraiel likes this. -
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I choose Pro usually just for the sake of having access to Group Policy Editor.
And like you said, I wouldn't ever buy a key from fleabay who knows who else they sold that same key to.
I upgraded all my laptops at home to Win 10 Pro for free, just slap in the Dell Win 7 Pro OEM DVD, the OS would be activated automatically since they are all DELL motherboards/laptops, then do the upgrade and they are all on Pro now.toughasnails and alexhawker like this. -
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These cheap code sales are people subscribed to MSDN selling their extra keys, which is not allowed, and will eventually get you blacklisted. And on fleBay, there is no buyer protection for the purchase of digital goods that were not listed in their classified section.
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I usually will just get an OEM install disc.
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BTW, after upgrading my previous Alienware 18 and my wife's Dell Vostro 5470, what I noticed is the product key for both is the same. Maybe this is like some sort of OEM product key that is tied to the hardware heh? -
The person I bought the key from had over 100 positive ratings and 0 negative, and the key he sold afaik was an OEM-key. Do I really have to be worried? I got the tip for the 15€ eBay Pro-keys from a good site as far as I can tell. Maybe there is just a lot of junk on eBay and I had luck?
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32bit are limited to max 3.5gig of RAM access never heard of 16gig limit before? 64bit Windows 7 blows past it by way margins but limited by chipset is the only other factor Windows 64bit has to content with. To access RAM above 2.5gig for older hardware or 3.5gig for newer hardware you need a 64bit O/S to do that 32bit O/S will not.
Good luck with that...If the user can't educate themselves about their O/S no amount of Windows update will stop malware/virus.
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Called SCAM.....you can't have the same Product Key on more then "ONE" computer anymore and it will get blacklisted by MS servers when you Window Update. OEM keys don't give out to more then "ONE" computer. I seen this and it is called illegit Product Keys that will get Blacklisted-Don't think it they won't catch it.
Called "JUNK" you buy those Product Keys from Microsoft and no one else...unless they are a RETAILER selling Retail Product Key that is the only exception but then the product is Sealed Factory. That way no one has used or registered the Product key. If it isn't then report them to Microsoft and give MS the Product Key and they will most likely report back that is a Blacklisted Product Key. I see where the Seller reports the FeedBack as SPAM and it gets removed so you never hear the real feedback. Also the seller can find and post Fake Review to give them higher reviews. I never buy Operating Software from eBay only licensed Online Retailer and then your paying alot for it not pennies on the dollar on eBay.Last edited by a moderator: Oct 31, 2015 -
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How is this scam when I used a genuine Windows 7 Pro disc provided by DELL to install Windows 7 on my wife's Vostro, and on my previous Alienware 18 I used the Windows 7 Pro (Alienware Edition) disc to install winodws 7 o it, then upgraded both laptops, both have the same product keys when I use Produkey Viewer to see what is the currently installed key.
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You can't use Product Key on more then one computer MS will find out when it goes to do a Windows Update it will report the Product Key and then two different system will come up and Microsoft will flag this Product Key and the next time you Windows update it will be blacklisted. Microsoft doesn't give out more then one Product Key per computer to enduser unless you buy a 3 install Product Key package in Retail. Unless your a Enterprise user then that is different. It might not be SCAM but your avoiding to pay the required cost to use the Product Key on more then one computer unless you bought a Retail Windows 7 - 3 license Product Key then you can install it on three computers with just One Product Key. I know Newegg in the past with Windows 7 did sell the License for Windows 7 for 3 computers usage but I don't see it anymore. If one has this then they can install on 3 computers and no more. What your doing will be eventually caught by MS so trying to delay the inevitable won't work fly under the MS radar. No one likes this but a Single Product Key is for a Single Computer unless you bought a 3 install license version of Windows 7 if they still exists. -
I bought a Windows 7 Pro key for the equivalent of $20 recently from Amazon - upgraded to Windows 10 Pro and had no problems. It's an OEM key but works fine.
Obviously, if you buy direct from MS then you're guaranteed to get a working key. I only include this as an example that not all online keys are outright scams.Seraiel likes this. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Yes I can! Like it or not.
I didn't realize you have a pHD in Micro$h4ft Licensing
I suggest you read about OEM/SLP Key Certificates / SLP Activation
The machines were both activated and each one was previously on Windows 7 and activated using the OEM/SLP Key method and each one of those machines has its own discs, one is a normal Dell Windows 7 Pro disc (Arabic Language) and the 2nd for the Alienware is the Alienware Edition of Windows 7 Pro with all the Alienware icons and customizations.l
Go figure! If you can't sleep over it, I'm sorry, I'm adding you to my ignore list so don't bother ever quoting me or replying to my threads coz I won't see them. but stop being a stubborn bull! I have both systems legally activated! That's the whole idea of Micro$h4ft offering Windows 10 as a free upgrade. Don't like it? Call Microsoft and complain to them!
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You can also read this yourself....believe what they say or not it's up to you..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Locked_Pre-installation
I suggest you read about OEM/SLP Key Certificates / SLP Activation[/QUOTE]
Here something else...to your reply..you can take what you want from it.
nah, I loose no sleep over-if one think hackers aren't doing this then they are behind the times and thinking. I also got a program that I experiment with and it more or less wipe clean COA activation becoming Windows activated and works fine and with Windows Updates no problem whatsoever. So to say it's not possible to do is keep one's head in the sand. If one wants to think it's not possible otherwise their wrong.Last edited: Oct 31, 2015 -
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Same here too. I have 2 laptops this way and I know other members are that way too. This was discussed on another forum I am a member of a few years ago ànd it's not blacklisted yet.Spartan@HIDevolution likes this. -
The big brands sell more than 300 million computers every year. ALL OF THEM use SLP keys. They cannot be blacklisted (exception being the Lenovo one that leaked before Win7 was released and got replaced). Because how it works and how easy it was to make a grub loader to fake slic in bios system was totally changed for Windows 8 and newer.
There is nothing unique in windows 7 activation. Nothing. They are all the same within same brand of computer and os version.alexhawker, toughasnails, Seraiel and 1 other person like this. -
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Here's more read why the John/Jane Doe doesn't have access to SLP....
So to think other people haven't circumvented this is ludicrous. And finding sites to help bypass wasn't that hard to find.
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I also should add the COA on the bottom is not the one laptop is using too. My guess you new this anyways. I bought this néw from manufacturer 2 years ago.Spartan@HIDevolution likes this.
Windows Pro upgrade for 15€ on eBay
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