Windows Vista (formally Longhorn).... coming in 2006

Hey guys, while doing a little background for another thread on Media Center Edition....... I fell upon this page with the final naming scheme. I don't know when they announced the name, but it's fairly recent and no one mentioned it before.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.mspx

 

yup, i just read it this morning. I think it was announced yesturday.

 

... Vista... just sounds like something everyone is going to run out and buy. Good thing this is *finally* a completely new OS, which what is supposed to be *no bugs*. I guess that's what they get when they have 5+ years to design it from the ground up.

 

yeah it should be really good. Microsoft has never dedicated so much effort to an OS ever. Not to mention, this is their Server, NT, and consumer group. Before there was the NT/Server and then regular version being developed. So this should be pretty good -- and still a year left before release!

 

they announced this during the morning in Atlanta. The good thing about "Vista" is that it'll include a lot of utilities for laptops as Microsoft knows by the end of 2006 that's where a majority of PC sales are going to be. For instance, making it easy to use multiple monitors/display outputs will be a built-in easy to use feature (well, so they say)

 

I was unaware that it was going to feature a lot of notebook related utilites. I don't know much about "Vista", but that is going to be very cool.

I saw something about this on TV earlier. I don't much care for the name, but that doesn't really have any effect on it. I can live with it.

 

Yeah ,heard it on TV today.

Could have been named 'Panorama'

 

Yeah, I wasn't too impressed with the name,they should have just called it Windows 2006 or something like that - continuing the tradition. But in the end its the OS that matters, hope that will be better than the name.

 

What will be the difference between Vista and XP?

 

You mean formerly longhorn? Cause formally, it's called Vista... or is it really formally called longhorn and informally called vista?

Anyways, i didn't know they actually did build it from the ground up, i thought it was just XP with more patch-up.
But anyways, this whole 64bit thing isn't going to profit notebooks much if people are just running on pentium M.

 

i heard about it yesterday...it's a diff. version of windows..like from Windows 95 to Windows 98 and so on...and i think that it's 64-bit..or sumting like that...rite??

 

Vista is supposed to represent the computer and it's relationship to all the devices that connect to it. The clutter on a desk grows:

PDA
Bluetooth Cell phone
Digital Camera
mp3 player
what's next?

 

It is a 64 bit based OS, but they are releasing a (dumbed down i think) 32 bit version. From what i've read the min requirements are like an 800 mhz processor and a 32 mb video adaptor (integrated wont cut it, unless its awesome)

 

doesn't 64bit have a backwards compatibility with 32bit, or am i just thinking of 64 bit processors being able to run 32bit programs.

 

Personally, I like the name. Way better than Longhorn in my opinion. Won't lots of people still be using 32 bit processors when this OS comes out??

 

Intel's Pentium M is still 32-bit. 32-bit processors aren't going anywhere for at least 3 years.

 

im sure 32 bit procs arent going anywhere anytime soon, but you have to remember when Windows 3.2 came out, didnt support the VERY popular 16 bit processors of the time, only the new 32 bit processors. and many people werent ready to make the change after they dumped thousands onto a spakin new 16 bit processor

 

Nice thing about AMD, their Turion, Athlon FX, Athlon 64, and Athlon 64 X2 processors can run both 64 and 32 bit applications without performance lost. As for no bugs in the OS, that is impossible. According to and interview Microsoft had with ZDNet this morning, MS is kinda rushing to get it done by next year. Rushing = bugs. In any case, I would think it would HAVE to be backwards compatable with 32 bit apps (depending on the processor) as almost all programs are 32 bit. Then again, Windows XP64 didn't do so hot on the compatablity issue, but with 5 years of development, who knows?

 

Tried to open Windows folder, it crashed. Feels more like XP tweaked to me.

 

big whoop

this is what all u guys are getting excited about?

 

do u know if you could get some of the icons for vista onto XP??...like changing the folder and stuff icons??

 

I like the change...been using it for a month now on laptop VPC and another home PC and its a nice toy. About the icons they can be found all over the web. A more complete way of getting the Vista look would be to use a Vista theme...those are all over the web as well. To use the icons or the themes your probably going to need some third party skinning software. If you don't find the icons i'll pass them over to ya.

Gluck

 

okk..kooool...thanks

 

just curious what you like about it? i ran it and thought the interface was quite clugly (clunky + ugly). is there something underneath that you like that's different than XP or was it the interface?

 

I believe the majority of the people that are currently testing Windows Vista right now are not using it because it is in any way more useful than Windows XP at this time. I think most who are testing Vista are developers who need to stay informed of future changes that could potentially have an effect on them.

Vista does offer more than just the pretty facelift. But at this time it's really only meant to be a test platform for developers. Keep in mind that this is the first beta release and that when the final OS is released, it will probably be more useful to the enduser.

I guess this is the reason why they only offer it to MSDN subscribers like you and i.

If you search the web there is a vast amount of information on Vista and it's changes that include, and go beyond the UI. Here's a good place to begin:

http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/vista.asp

 

it's based on a 64-bit architecture, so it won run on 32-bit processors.

 

Vista comes in two versions, 32 and 64.

 

i was told it won't run,
will it go slower or what?
the only reason i bought a turion was because of this.

 

It would be bad business for windows to only make a 64 bit version as many people still have the 32 bit processors. So they will have a 32 bit version. Maybe this beta version is only currently 64 bit.

 

This version, as well as all the alpha longhorn versions have always supported 32b, in fact some Longhorn versions only came in 32b. I have been using it since the last 3-5 releases, and always on a 32b cpu. Maybe i'll try my luck with the 64b version sometime, but for the time being i don't have a spare 64b pc lying around to tinker with.

 

haha i already have it the whole 2.5 gb of it

 

a lotta people already have it...and it's only the beta version right now

 

If Vista's "better" version is in a 64-bit form, then will Intel alter its Pentium-M to help futureproof it? If not, how will new notebooks be able to run the 64-bit version?

 

they are identical; the 32 bit version if for 32 bit processors and likewise for the 64 bit version... i don't understand your question

 

Sunshadow...the plan is already in the works for a 64b PM...the next version is Yonah (dual core), then followed shortly by Merom (dual or multi-core 64B)

More info relating to Merom announced at IDF day two today but the excitement is all about the P5 Conroe and Viiv machines. Hope the Conroe can give AMDs a run for there money (rooting for the underdog). I guess the PM was the ace in Intels pocket.

 

what use would u need for 64-bit technology that u can't do with the already 32-bit technology and programs around for it??

 

Due to the lack of software currently available 64b has not yet realized its full potential. I'd give it a year or two.

 

ok...but what kind of programs would need to be run in 64-bit that could not be run in 32-bit??...i still don't get the difference even if there were more programs around...is it better benchmarks??..faster PC all around..??..what/?

 

64b will basically doubling the amount of data a CPU can process per cycle and will make computing much faster. Programs that will benefit the most will be data intensive programs such as encoding, some design programs, and games. This will only be realized when 64b hardware meets 64b software.

 

and your're saying like 90% of the 64-bit tech. will be for "data intensive programs such as encoding, some design programs, and games"??

 

"and your're saying like 90% of the 64-bit tech"

Sorry don't know what your trying to say?

I guess what i am saying is that all programs will be 64b in the future, the ones that will benefit the most will be the data intensive ones that get bottlenecked by the system, and not the user. In apps like MS Office the difference will not be noticable compared to the 32b version because the bottleneck is the user.

Hope that helps.

 

ahhh....i see now...thanks for clarifying that up