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    Windows Vista - Good Or another lame program?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Lil Mayz, Jan 5, 2006.

  1. mbrandall

    mbrandall Notebook Guru NBR Reviewer

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    The gap between Windows XP and Windows Vista is a huge gap compared to the time difference between other earlier releases of Windows.

    First Note: I really dont know why most of you are like "Vista is just a rip off of MacOS X" because as someone said earlier, MacOS X is just a rip off of a whole bunch of other things too.

    Sure, MacOS X may have done it first on a mainstream operating system, but that doesnt mean Microsoft can't take a great idea and make it better. Besides, there are hundreds of things in Vista that are different, if not better than their respective equivilents in MacOS X.

    Second Note: Alot of you guys are saying its simply a facelift from Windows XP and not worth the cost of upgrade. Windows Vista is much more than just a facelift. Apart from the entire core of the OS practically being re-written and changed, at the user interface level - the OS is more reliant on the graphics card, freeing up the CPU for more important tasks. The security in Vista, yes, in part based on Unix/Linux is also a huge change to what was in XP. The inbuilt features make Vista far more secure, system friendly and more visually tasteful.

    I'm sure alot of you will notice that this post shows me as a bit of a Microsoft fan, but after everything that company has done, they are finally listening to users and making an operating system that does what we need it to do, with the features it needs to have.
     
  2. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    MSFT is moving too quickly? I thought that was a joke at first, but I think you're serious. XP has been out for 5 years. Just because people haven't upgraded from 95 98 and Me, doesn't mean MSFT should wait another 5 years for them to catch up.
     
  3. MysticGolem

    MysticGolem Asus MVP + NBR Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    I agree with mbrandball.

    Also my friend has been using the beta version for like 6 months, unfortunately i din't get to see Vista, but here's the major things he told me.

    Vista:
    - more GPU intensive, frees up the CPU
    - Re-coded OS, more efficient and more stable
    - able to resize icons

    And an example my friend use to explain this:
    My friend plays City of Heros (MMORPG), with the XP OS he got about 30-40 fps. But when he changed to Vista he was getting 50-60 fps, and he said, because of the Vista OS being well coded and efficient it allows for games and other programs to run faster. (sry i don't know his computer's specs)

    Also many of us are like forget Vista for now, we'll wait for several service packs to be released before we make the switch to Vista.
    Well being optimistic, Vista could be very productive right off the shelfs and without service packs at the beginning. But who knows.

    So be patient guys, wait for its release and let others, who have the ability to test it and then see whether the benefits are worth shelling out the Cost for Vista :D

    Thanks,

    MysticGolem
     
  4. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    I assume you mean "there is" instead of "thats a". But yes I know there is the Winows X64 but I have been advised to stay away from that for now. Many software developers havn't released programs that can run the the x64, because it wasn't all that big of a deal (not like Vista is going to be). The releasing of Vista is going to be huge. And by the time it is realeased all software companies should have there programs compatable with it. But right now X64 has some compatability issues.... so I will wait for vista ;)
     
  5. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    FYI - we'll be posting an article on Vista SideShow. We're going to try to profile several of these new features so people have a better idea about what Vista can bring to the table.
     
  6. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah like deeper DRM integration :rolleyes:
     
  7. Bootstrap

    Bootstrap Notebook Guru

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    Unless they change things from the way they've always done, you can still do a clean system install if you buy an upgrade version. The "upgrade" version is simply a discount for people who already own an earlier version of windows. If you do a full install on an upgrade CD, it will ask you to insert a CD from a previous version of Windows to verify that you're eligible. At least, this was the way things were for XP, and I doubt that they'd never let people who buy the upgrade version ever install the OS from scratch ;)

    Some of the features of Vista do look pretty cool, but I think most people (especially businesses) are going to be pretty conservative in deciding when to upgrade. I'll make the switch eventually, but probably not until after the first service pack or so, so they'll have had time to correct major security flaws and such (which are inevitable for such a complicated piece of software).
     
  8. RZetlin

    RZetlin Notebook Geek

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    Or look at this way.

    How much of improvement are you going to see with opening a word processor document between Vista and Windows XP?

    How much of improvment are you going to see with reading e-mail between Vista and Windows XP?

    The biggest jump for Microsoft was from Windows 98 to Windows XP when they finally got rid the bloody BSOD.

    With XP I haven't seen any BSOD yet.

    Only time will tell if Vista will offer a leap over XP other than just a different looking GUI.
     
  9. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    My take is it's 50% UI, 25% obvious functionality improvements and 25% behind the scenes improvements that everyone except advanced users will never see.
     
  10. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    50% UI, 15% obvious functionality improvements, 15% behind the scenes improvements that everyone except advanced users will never see and 20% will de devoted to newly integrated DRM protection.
     
  11. Lil Mayz

    Lil Mayz Notebook Deity

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    well, I do actually know know to dual boot, i think, simply install Mac OS X first, and then install Windows as an extra operating system. I mean, i don't know why but I've got XP as well as 2K, but it might no work with Mac OS X!!
     
  12. mbrandall

    mbrandall Notebook Guru NBR Reviewer

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    God Alexjl the only thing you seem concerned about is DRM. The DRM in Vista mostly relates only to HD content (which I can partially understand) and the DRM changes in Vista make up about 5% of the over all operating system. Stop getting so hung up on DRM in Vista, there will..as always...be ways around.
     
  13. Dissatisfied

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    Same here.
     
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