Windows XP ends of support

I am replace my 'laggy' desktop with a new laptop. But Microsoft says Windows XP is going to end support. Should I MUST stop using my desktop and replace it with a new laptop?

(Sorry if I said desktop.)​

 

No, you don't need to stop using your desktop. You can get by just fine even if Microsoft doesn't "update" it anymore.

 

You will be running an OS that will not get security patches anymore though, so I personally would avoid using it to go on the Internet to check websites and download stuff.

 

Look on the bright side people. No more friggin annoying updates to install for XP. You think hackers want to help M$ make more money by hacking XP? Unless M$ secretly pays these hackers, they're more likely to go after 7 after April. People will always go to the sweeteest most populated spots to hack.

 

Let's see...
Large userbase for XP: check. Yes, it is not as large as it used to be, but still large
No longer patched OS: check
Governments and business still running XP: check


courtesy of: http://arstechnica.com/information-...date-windows-xp-still-has-29-os-market-share/


It may not be the juiciest target in therms of overall userbase, but in terms of lack of security, that will be a whole other matter.

 

technically no, just replace the operating system. Windows 7 or Linux. However take into consideration how old your computer is, it might be worth it to just buy a basic laptop ($300-350) considering you'll pay $90~ for a new copy of Windows 7. A new laptop will be faster, have a newer operating sytem, and a warranty.

 

I think sgelevators is asking if he can still run WinXP? If that is the question, then yes you can still run it. When support ends that means that there will be no new updates from Microsoft.

 

I would not be worried about security on Windows XP at all. Keep your browser and anti-virus software up-to-date and you will be perfectly fine. Personal users have very little to worry about in terms of discontinued security updates from Microsoft. The sky isn't falling for Windows XP users.

 

Microsoft in 1-year Windows XP survival deal with UK govt

John.

 

Exactly!

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I would be surprised if XP had any undiscovered vulnerabilities left after more than 10 years worth of updates and security patches. On the bright side, Microsoft isn't going to suddenly stop updating MSE definitions for XP. And if they do, there are tonnes of other antiviruses out there... What I would love most is for future hardware manufacturers to continue writing drivers for XP, since it still commands 2nd largest user base. It would make me very happy as it will allow me to continue to use XP on future machines.

In order for me to switch from XP one of the following points has to happen:

1. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
2. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
3. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
4. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
5. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
6. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
7. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
8. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
9. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
10. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
11. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.
12. A compact OS that installs no more than 6-8GB and runs .NET applications as fast as XP.

But don't get the wrong idea, I current triple boot XP/Win7/Win8 on one of my laptops. I log onto to Win7 and 8 once in a while just to remind myself I have legit licenses to those. (Not kidding, I usually log off without serious use of any apps back to XP)...

In short, the only thing that will pry XP out of my hands is a "modern XP" clone with support for newer hardware... XP already does what a modern OS is supposed to do, run apps, not act as a resource hog... With modern HTML5 browsers such as Opera for XP, this OS will still be in its prime for the next 10-15 years. Lastly, the funny part is, my most RAM-intensive app uses up no more than 3GB of memory, leaving 800MB for the OS, just right at or slightly below XP's RAM limit. So, no need for me to hop onto the 4GB+ usable OS bandwagon.

 

The only things that pushed me off XP were RAM limitations and niche software that required Win7. I still use it in one of my old servers in my home office.

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I have XP Media Center Edition on an old functioning laptop I had as a kid. I'll use it until it becomes unusable, I guess. Mostly it's just for fun at this point.

Personally, I would just switch to 7. It's closest you're going to get to XP. 8 is not a good substitute.

 

So is Windows XP abandon-ware now, can we install it for free, is it legal to sell XP now?

John.

 

I would think no since Microsoft just signed a £5.5m deal to extend support with the UK.

Government signs £5.5m Microsoft deal to extend Windows XP support

 

I posted that link myself, see the previous page.

John.

 

OMG, how wrong you are. Win7 is just so bloated as to be useful on my Ivy Bridge laptop. WinXP all the way baby!

(Microsoft made a deadly mistake bloating up their OS to the point of taking over 12GB on a fresh install. If they had kept to the XP formula with Win7/8, they would have ruled the mobile hardware scene by now which requires both a minimal install footprint and exceedingly fast performance for low-end hardware. Hopefully, the new CEO is smart and returns Microsoft to the glory of the XP era with Win9. I would love nothing more than running Win9 on a tablet that can run custom, power-hungry apps as good as XP. Either Win9 will make this dream of mine come true, or in 10 years time tablet hardware will become so powerful, laptops and desktops won't be neeed anymore, even for power users)...

 

Honestly, i've had Windows update disabled since 2010, and I've still yet to get a virus. Just keep using XP until the apps you need to run stop, IIRC Chrome and Firefox will still be supporting XP for the time being. At worse, switch to Linux with WINE for your .NET applications.

 

oops, sorry.

 

Windows XP isn't abandonware. While Microsoft is no longer delivering security updates after today, the activation servers are going to be up and running indefinitely:

Did I just hear this right? Microsoft activation servers will allow new XP installs after doomsday? | ZDNet

They might not care about your security anymore, but they clearly still care about piracy

 

There's a variation of Windows XP called Windows POSReady 2009 that's supported until 2019.

No doubt you'll run into some issues, especially on laptops, since it's designed for point of sale systems, but from the looks of things, it's XP without stuff like Movie Maker, etc.

 

I was actually able to install the Windows 7 Beta with a mere 4.78 GB of install space a few years back. That was fresh without bloatware commonly found on new PCs, though. And it's probably more than that with SP1. And like any Windows install, it will grow a lot as you use it and install software. I've got something like 18 GB of uninstall files in C:\Windows on my XP x64 install - that's probably going to be the same no matter what version of Windows you are using, and at that point it actually is bigger than even Vista x64's install size.

But I'm also sticking with XP until I see a convincing reason to leave it. It does seem to be true that memory use is much less - I rarely use more than 4 GB, even on x64, whereas my Windows 7 work laptop (albeit with a less clean install since I didn't do it myself) regularly needs more than the 8 GB it has. I was on the fence between 32-bit and 64-bit when I built my desktop in 2011, and while having the extra RAM is nice, I don't think it would have been the XPocalypse had I gone with 32-bit instead - at least as long as I didn't wind up with just 2.5 GB usable due to the GPU or something like that. On my laptop that has 3.5 GB with XP x86, RAM is rarely an issue.

Most likely, an increasing number of programs that I want to run no longer supporting XP is why I'll eventually switch. So far, I still have more than adequate support for everything I'm doing on XP, and while there are some interesting-looking games that require Vista or 7, there's also still a big backlog of ones that I want to play that support XP.

Of course, if there do end up being tons of major security issues, that may require a change in plans, but I don't think it will be as bad as XP-hating journalists make it sound.

I am glad that activation will still work, though - hadn't even thought about that. I've been considering upgrading my boot hard drives, but even if I dual-boot with Linux, I'll be keeping an XP installation around for all my Windows software.

XP Embedded is still supported, as is Server 2003. Server 2003 is my other backup plan, in addition to Linux. I actually ran it on my laptop for a short time six years ago or so, just for the sake of seeing how it ran.

 

Wow that looks interesting.

I'd demo it in a VM with your XP-apps (since this looks like W7 with the XP GUI) before putting it on a real machine. Also note that this might not be necessarily availible for consumer purchase, so torrenting might be the only option.

 

Instead of trying to make the already-stripped-down Windows POSReady 2009 work on a regular PC, why not go upstream and use Windows Embedded Standard 2009 - the OS that Windows POSReady 2009 is based on - instead?

Windows Embedded Standard 2009 has almost* everything that XP Pro has, including IE, WMP, and even the business/enterprise features like Remote Desktop hosting and the ability to join an Active Directory domain - and on top of that you can customize the installer however you want. It's like XP Pro with nLite built in. And of course, since it's part of the same embedded devices family of products as Windows POSReady 2009, it's also supported* until 2019.

* Given the context of this discussion, the one major feature that's missing is unfortunately also the one most people are probably looking for: none of the products in the embedded devices family of Windows products, which includes both Windows POSReady 2009 and Windows Embedded Standard 2009 have the normal IE + ActiveX-based Windows Update. Security patches need to be applied via either SCCM or WSUS. So unless if you happen to have a lot of IT infrastructure at home, the fact that these derivatives of Windows XP are still supported and Microsoft is still releasing security patches for them ultimately means nothing.

 

IRS reportedly paying Microsoft millions for Windows XP support | Windows Phone Central

John.

 

I saw that. Makes me mad.

 

The IRS isn't paying for it. The American taxpayer is paying for it.

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Chinese Government Shuns 'Expensive' Windows 8

China looks for extra XP support in talks with Microsoft | Expert Reviews

John.

 

Me again.

Microsoft: Here's a PATCH for NEVER-TO-BE-PATCHED-AGAIN Windows XP • The Register

John.

 

I'm very sorry to hear that XP will soon dissapear, really it was a great product of Microsoft.