Windows-in danger of being irrelevant?

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article3730534.ece

-Microsoft Windows 'in danger of collapsing', analysts say
A pair of Gartner analysts said that Microsoft's flagship product could be made obsolete by changes in modern computing

who needs windows when there's.....

ubantu!

 

you gotta be kidding me... how long have you people been saying this? April fools is over yo

 

Nah... they'll pull it together with the next release.

 

did you read the article?

windows is a very bloated os.

 

Me thinks the same way.With that said I sort of agree with he analyst in that Windows has tried to become all things to everyone hence the 50 million lines of code.

PC makers also look forward to the release of a new Microsoft OS as it helps them sell more computers.

 

always has been, mcdonalds is bloated too, doesnt mean its goin anywhere

 

that's true, i don't eat micky dees though.

i guess that makes me an elitist

 

Owning a Macbook does.

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! This article is B.S.

Everyone's an analyst these days...

 

touche.


although i'm not an apple kool-aid drinker.

 

I think that article has some merit. Will MS die, no. But Windows does need an overhaul. Not a Vista overhaul a real overhaul like Mac did with OS X. Start from scratch. But this would be difficult for MS to do I think.

Vista is a joke as we all know. It does nothing for the user except confuse the situation. And I believe that something about the file system is inherently flawed. Why don't 3rd party partition managers work on Vista? Acronis claims it works... but it really doesn't. Partition Magic just hides and doesn't say anything about Vista. And using the disk management in Windows is very limited and fairly flakey as well. Why is this? I have reformatted my laptop 3 times in 5 weeks. The 1st was by choice, it was brand new. The 2nd was because I tried extending the C: partition and Vista F'd up my D: partition in the process. The 3rd was because the 2nd reformat went haywire? I got nothing but errors trying to do anything. Installing Office, connecting to Windows update, I couldn't do a thing without errors.

I am hoping I am free and clear now but I have to say XP is a much smoother experience for me. MS screwed up by trying to make hardware manufacturers happy, not their own customers.

 

just messing with you.

 

Although I don't buy that Windows will collapse or be irrelevant anytime soon, the article does take some extremely valid shots at Windows. Those who don't think so need only to look as far as this forum. There are a lot of dissatisfied users. The number of XP vs. Vista threads I've seen on here since joining is almost funny at this point. Another example would be the last company I worked for and their refusal to upgrade to Vista. Every single computer in the company ran XP Professional. All of these indicate a growing, or at least persistent, disgust with Windows by consumers.

With all that said, I do not believe that the majority of people out there absolutely hate Windows, and I definitely don't expect Windows to go anywhere in the near future. However, I do believe that if they don't get it together soon, they'll put themselves in an extremely precarious position, assuming they haven't already. There are a lot of people waiting to see what Windows 7 will bring. I am one of those people and, as I've mentioned in another thread, I feel like they'll get it right with the next release. There is just something in me that feels like Windows 7 will finally deliver on a lot of the promises that have been made to us by Microsoft. Maybe it's just wishful thinking. We'll see.

 

I agree...

Not to mention all the haters on vista... vista this and vista that.... If vista was not so bloated the same people would be complaining how vista does not work with their hardware or software. Remember Apple? lol

People like windows... if they did not, mac and linux usage would be more than what it is now. Vista and xp deliver what "regular" people want... a solid and reliable platform to do their work or play... works with hardware and software without major issues or having to dig under the hood. Being able to "view the code" of a program is NOT a selling factor to 99% of the world.

Most of the time when people complain of errors they need to check the space between the monitor and back of their chair.... that is the real error.

With that said, windows will collapse sooner or later. Nothing lasts forever, stupid to think so. Instead of a "catastrophic collapse," I think windows will morph into something else in the distant future. We are well over a decade and half from this happening though....

 

Dear NBR Forum,

We agree. Windows is obviously useless, soon-to-be irrelevent, and the people of the world will band together to have it pushed into obscurity. The fat lady has finally started singing.

Signed,

American Idol, The Electoral College, and Dial-up Internet Service

 

As long as DX>OpenGL Windows is safe

 

I hate analysts who rambles with negativity and some people who believes it's the god given truth. What happens is they tend to validate their hatred of Windows when someone mentions it in an article or blogs.

People should get a life. Windows is here to stay and all these comments are fluffs. Windows is Windows, Linux is Linux and Mac is Mac. Pick your poison and stay with it otherwise move on. If someone can built a better OS than Windows then I'll listen instead of reading all the negativity. How about some positives for awhile. Can't make all the peeps happy and seems like they're the ones with the loudest voice.

 

No such things happened to me. Vista is smooth and more reliable than XP.
People don't want to adopt to the new technology. This is sick.

Thanks to vista. Most of the hardware prices have come down drastically due to vista's push by MS.

 

Correction: people use windows because it is where everything is, I dual boot xp and ubuntu and I would happily ditch win if I could run all my stuff in ubuntu without having to go through wine or virtual box.

 

Hmmm, people talk of Mac OS X being an overhaul....
Look what Linux has done. You can't sat Gutsy Gibbon is bloated compared to Dapper Drake, now can you?

 

same thing as I said... they "like" windows. You "like" something for various reasons... mainly because it "works." It "works" because everything works with it... keep up.... Like it because it is "simple" or "easy" or whatever.....

This is the only forum I know where I have to spell everything out...

At any rate, it is what it is... but I guess as soon as someone kicks off about ubuntu and whatever, then they having other things on their minds than attempting to understand what someone else wrote.

Ubuntu is a fine OS... I've recommended and installed it a couple of times. I used to operate it on a spare computer, but erased it now that I've started playing with vista a bit more. Between my mac, xp, and vista, I don't see much room to toy around with linux... although, I will once ubuntu 8.04 is launched (of course). Version 7 was the first linux build that I could ever recommend to anyone... I'm hoping version 8 continues down that path of excellence.

I'd also like to see evolution taken through an evolution... and open office needs a complete overhaul....

Anyway, since Windows is going to be irrelevant, what are the pundits suggesting will take its place? Google's OS? lol

 

I can't wait until analysts are irrelevant.

 

The statements in the article about web based computing (application... as a web service???) - nope. I take my local installs, thank you.

P.S.
Ubuntu is not what I would consider my only or first OS. Fun begins right from the start - wrong default driver for that video card and no WiFi. Please.

 

lol if people wanted the bare minimum they should use Linux. Windows is not going anywhere and OS X isnt that much better in bloatware. Most of these "analysts" have no clue what they are talking about.

 

I remember in the 90's when Java was going to make Windows irrelevant.

Well, Java never really took off as a platform for web apps... but web apps in general have made some progress over the past few years, as have open-source apps like OpenOffice that can be run on various OSes. However, as long as most of the business world continues to use MS Office, people will keep buying Windows to run it. Sure, some percentage of people will buy Macs and run MS Office on OS X instead... but as long as this solution remains more expensive and less compatible (macros, for example), most people with ties to the business world will continue to use the combination of Windows and Office.

 

Windows is just way too bloated. It's not just an operating system, it's practically everything else too. I'd like to see less potatoes and more meat so to speak, just a lean, mean OS that just does the basics, but does them fast and clean. Speed and stability should be paramount to it's design, as opposed to a bunch of new almost worthless features and bloat.

I prefer Linux!

 

Windows has gone to fixation in the marketplace. The QWERTY keyboard is the same way. QWERTY keyboards were originally designed so that typist on typewriters would not jam the machines by typing too quickly. It is an intentionally cumbersome key layout. However, it has gone to fixation, so even when techincally, ergonomically, and productively superior key layouts are produced, QWERTY dominates them simply because it is what everything is designed around. Hell, even wireless devices (cellphones, PDAs, etc) where they could have gone with some completely novel key layout are gravitating towards QWERTY.

What will cause Windows to fall is if/when the standards bodies, with either the direct or indirect help of governments, force MS in to a position where hardware and software will be written sufficiently generically that 95% of software can run 95% of the time across Windows and whatever other OSes are out at the time. Then people will slowly migrate away from Windows (though not everybody) as the software that is not "global standards compliant" moves to obsolecense.

Unless MS spectacularly implodes or so horribly bungles some future release of Windows (for example, destroying backwards compatability with older Windows version software and hardware to an extreme degree), it will likely remain the dominant OS for the forseeable future.

 

I never considered Linux fast...

There's an interesting interview with the Kernel developer
http://apcmag.com/why_i_quit_kernel_developer_con_kolivas.htm

 

It's very fast.
Trust me, thats a major thing for switchers.

 

But, have you read the link I posted?
Sorry, I don't trust you here.
P.S. maybe I stated the above a bit strong... For servers and dedicated HW uses, Linux is fast. But not so for personal computing.

 

Yes I have read it.
Ubuntu is plenty fast, it boots in 28 seconds & shuts down in 9.
It is snappy even with Compiz Fusion a the desktop. How is linux slow when 7 year old computers can run it fine?

 

Of course you prefer linux....

You belong here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1029

Just like I mentioned before, if vista were not "bloated" you would be the first person critiziging how windows is not backwards compatible with anything and how everyone should now switch to linux.

I know you hate to see vista mature and do so well...

But I guess that goes with the grumblings of Ubuntu being bloated as well... maybe that is why I like ubuntu... lol

 

OK, Con Kolivas doesn't have a clue how incredibly fast is his own product.

 

Ummm, He wasn't an official developer it says.
It depends on which of the 1000s of distros you're talking about.

 

The speed of Linux distros vary, and I favor the faster ones. I've had no problems with speed issues with Slackware or Mepis, and those are just a few of the faster distos out there. Arch is supossed to be really fast.

Obviously the kernel isn't perfect, but it's very good, and should continue to improve.

 

Listen, I f you don't like it, go make it better, it's open source.
We could have this argument all day & get no where, so let's just agree to disagree, OK?

 

I prefer to remain a user, thank you (thank God MS is around for people like myself)

But seriously, let all OSs co-exist and take the best from one another. No need to put any OS down, they all have advantages.

 

Wow, another arrogant post from you, just like my other post you responded to where you insinuated I don't know what I'm doing. I sure don't need you telling me were I belong, or how I would or wouldn't complain about anything.

 

Yes, I'm a Windows user, but I prefer Ubuntu. Why? It's faster, easier & open source.
Stop being so arrogant.

 

When you troll the windows boards to do nothing but promote linux, well, sometimes people call you out on it. Sorry....

In the other thread, I did not insinuate you did not know what you were doing... I actually said it, period. If you mess with a reg cleaner, break windows, and then don't know why it broke... well, I'd say you don't know what you are doing. Sorry again... I called it like I read it. Of course, others won't be so blunt.... sorry again....

 

I am not liking where this thread is going so its now closed.

-Kdawgca
NBR Mod