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    Would you accept a job from Microsoft?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Matt, Jun 22, 2007.

  1. Matt

    Matt Notebook Deity

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    If offered a job at Microsoft in a high position (one that would allow you to make major decisions), would you accept it?

    This should be an interesting thread... personally, I would. I don't hate Microsoft, I just think they can do much better...
     
  2. Wingsbr

    Wingsbr NBR Decepticon NBR Reviewer

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    Of course I would. I love the 360 and sounds like good job security. I would only like to work in the 360 division though, not the other lines of business. =)
     
  3. xdominic89x

    xdominic89x Notebook Consultant

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    of course

    10 charmanders
     
  4. Gator

    Gator Go Gators!

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    So in other words, if all of a sudden someone were to offer me loads of cash with the possibility of stock options in one of the world's most prominent companies, as well as all of the perks and power that come with the position, would I accept?

    Hmmmmmmm tough one. I'll have to think ab---

    HELL YES!
     
  5. PhoenixFx

    PhoenixFx Notebook Virtuoso

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    I don’t see any reason why someone wouldn’t :confused:
     
  6. Matt

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    Well, there are quite a few people who hate Microsoft and their products. I was trying to see how many would try to help out Microsoft and fix their problems or ditch them and go to Linux. I guess the question wasn't exactly worded that way, but oh well.
     
  7. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    I have my principles......
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    If you don't like them, I have others...

    Why ever not?

    EDIT: Hypothetical answer, really.. I can't stand sitting in front of the comp all my life..
     
  8. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    The problem is in the culture of the company. They're out to make tons of money, however they can. They don't want to make a better product, they want to make a more profitable product. And when you're a monopoly like they are, then you basically make a mediocre product that takes minimal resources, and price it so it takes as much from everyone as it can. Ever wonder why OSX doesn't have different "tiers" like Vista/XP/2000/whatever?
     
  9. f_alejandro

    f_alejandro Notebook Consultant

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    I would also. :D well those people who hate microsoft... it's better they were/are there. there's no challenge if there weren't. They are the lighting torch that make Microsoft people ignite with more improvement and ideas. Bad or good publicity - is still a GOOD publicity. some just can't accept things out how microsoft changed the world. either bad or good.

    Let me see, where would i like to work with what department... hmmmm.... the research department perhaps. LOL.
     
  10. System64

    System64 Windows 7 x64

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    I will accept their job offer, take over the company by buying 51% shares, and reduce the market share of them, while promoting harmony for the free OS and Mac. :D

    The downfall of Microsoft is near.... ;)
     
  11. LFC

    LFC Ex-NBR

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    Well most are?
     
  12. f_alejandro

    f_alejandro Notebook Consultant

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    Would you not if you have the chance? Tell me, if somehow other OS variants like for example Xandros has the most well used software/OS, do you think they will not take advantage of the scenario. Well as far as I know Linux variants are now selling some of their deluxe versions or whatever you call them to public. sooner or later, they will sell them as soon as software availability comes to linux open source world...and trust me, THERE will be Open source competition too... ;) people like COMPETITION as they like very well with - to war.... hmmm... people nature.
     
  13. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    I have no problem whatsoever with making money. I DO have a problem with making money at the expense of making a quality product, screwing up the market and screwing over other businesses and most importantly, your customers. A company is out of control if it can get away with treating it's customers like criminals, and everyone thinks that it's perfectly fine. If I were in charge, WGA would be ripped out immediately from all products, as well as all DRM checks and driver requirements in Vista. But since there's no way that would happen, I wouldn't want to work there. I have principles.
     
  14. f_alejandro

    f_alejandro Notebook Consultant

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    Pitabred, i think perhaps you are somewhat exaggerating... i mean c'mon. isnt DRM good... why do we have to see these as bad... the only thing im seeing many people hate DRM is they want music and stuffs to be downloaded for free or share theme everywhere... sure DRM is breakable. at least, it delays non-techie people to crack down everything.

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    what if i'm a singer or an actor and i want to make money... i won't be happy if you guys are the only ones happy. ;)
     
  15. Matt

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    That's true... but you cannot say that their products haven't gotten any better at all... compare Windows 1.0 to Windows Vista... I agree, though.

    Also, Apple is only able to do that because OS X is only available on Mac computers... were it available on PCs, they'd have new operating systems as opposed to new versions.

    Matt
     
  16. LFC

    LFC Ex-NBR

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    Absolutely. 9/10 people on the internet only do care about downloading stuff for free

    For the rest of us who do have money and/or more money than sense, DRM does restrict what I feel is fair private use. I can take any of my DVDs and use it on any DVD player: standalone or on a computer. Could I do that with a legal download?
     
  17. Padmé

    Padmé NBR Super Pink Princess

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    I voted yes, but I think I'd fit in better at Google.
     
  18. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    Yup, but Google would be my number one choice :)
     
  19. Homer_Jay_Thompson

    Homer_Jay_Thompson blathering blatherskite

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    I did not know Microsoft hired Pharmacists.
     
  20. Padmé

    Padmé NBR Super Pink Princess

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    Who's a pharmacist?????????????
     
  21. AlexOnFyre

    AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer

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    Seeing as you would be set for life. Why wouldn't you? I would also accept job offers from:
    --Apple
    --Intel
    --AMD
    --nVidia
    --Any Fortune 500 company. Period.
     
  22. Homer_Jay_Thompson

    Homer_Jay_Thompson blathering blatherskite

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    I am a pharmacy student.
     
  23. Matt

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    Well, Lynn is for one, but I think Homer meant himself. :p
     
  24. Padmé

    Padmé NBR Super Pink Princess

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    I think she is a Pharmacy Tech, which is totally different from a Pharmacist. ;)
     
  25. Matt

    Matt Notebook Deity

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    Ok, Mrs. SmartyPants.:tongue:
     
  26. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Well, I'd side with Pitabred. I'd consider it akin to taking up a job firing harpoons at Minke Whales. Now Intel or Canonical, sure.
     
  27. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Seeing as I'm studying to become a Computer Engineer, I think.. Yeah.. I would accept. :D

    Mike.
     
  28. WackyT

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    Of course I would! Any company the Linux "developers" steal code from must be good.
     
  29. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    ...I think you have that backwards. Linux is what's known as "open source", whereas Windows is "closed source". This means that you can freely access the code of Linux, but not of Microsoft. Besides, what code would Linux developers actually WANT steal from Microsoft? The unstable, DRM ridden kernel? Hole-ridden RPC services? IIS? Word?

    Honestly, of conspiracies, you'd have to do better. I mean, Microsoft could EASILY prove if Linux "stole" any code, but we open source developers have a very hard time proving the converse.
     
  30. Matt

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    Well, if you were truly open source, them stealing source code would be fine, right? :D
     
  31. sp00n

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    Yep, I would.
     
  32. mattireland

    mattireland It used to be the iLand..

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    yea,

    I'd do it for the money - not for the good of Microsoft.
     
  33. Sneaky_Chopsticks

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    If it has a high paying salary, then yes. If not, no way.lol

    I'm both an Apple and Windows fan. If I was an all out Apple fan, i'd still accept the job..due to the salary.
     
  34. chuck232

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    Unless you're adverse to corporate culture, I'd see this as a golden opportunity to affect change at one of the most influential companies in the world.

    I'd definitely take it.
     
  35. Matt

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    Exactly. This is exactly what I think. :cool:
     
  36. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    If it was an interesting job, why not.
     
  37. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Go use a BSD then ;) I like my open-source to be open to everyone, and if improvements happen with something I make, I don't want to be locked out of them.
     
  38. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    Very few people live the life where they can choose to throw away such a rare opportunity as a well-paid employment agreement. While I do condone some of Microsoft's decisions and actions in the software market, the truth is that business often hurts others, and that almost every industry violates moral ideals, at least in terms of environmental morals. Oil companies often exploit native populations (ex, the situation between the Shell , Imperial Oil, and Nigeria). Needless to say I would definitely accept a post with Microsoft. A job is a job!
     
  39. JadedRaverLA

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    As long as I can play my PS3 at my desk and watch Blu-ray movies, I'm in.

    No idea why they've yet to offer me a job...

    Actually, I know a number of people who work for Microsoft. Most seem to like it quite a bit... not as much as the Google employees do, though. If I had decided to go into programming instead of law, they would likely be on my short list.
     
  40. lunateck

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    Nope, i wont, not in that field.
     
  41. TwilightVampire

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    I have my principals. I'd never accept a job with them.
     
  42. iOsiris

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    Why not? should be the better question :) However, if there were several offers then it would be hard to stay with Microsoft
     
  43. slumbermann

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    as long as they pay me good... then i don't really care what computer/software company it is... i work to get my money... so anyone want to offer me some new job? lol
     
  44. sammydee

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    I hate microsoft as much as anybody. If they offered me a job though, I'd take it. I might be able to help make their product less terrible!
     
  45. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    The problem is that they have a ton of talented engineers. It's not the talent they lack. It's ENTIRELY political. I've worked enough places to realize that politics are what get things done. And I wouldn't want to mess with the politics at Microsoft unless I was hired into, say, Ballmer's position. There's too much hegemony, too many marketing and lawyer driven "features" that I'd end up getting fired because I refuse to do or be part of things that I feel are unethical just for a paycheck.
     
  46. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    I am in the MINORITY with my resounding NO vote. :)

    I value my sense of ethics over any amount of cash gains or M$ job bribes.
     
  47. Fittersman

    Fittersman Wanna trade?

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    i was guna say unsure, but then i read your post and it was a major job, so how could you turn that down? :p
     
  48. Luto

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    To catagorize an entire company of over 50,000 people as morally xyz is thinking in black and white. It is a huge company with so many divisions.

    One could do a lot of things that help the world working there.

    When the Soviet Union was disolving and there was a coup attempt on Yeltsen, they used Word for windows 2.0, russian version, to print to an HP Laser. They printed information that basically rallied the people to stop the coup as they crowded around the military.

    I worked on that version and specifically the printer code. It was rock solid because we were there at 7 AM until 7 PM 6 days a week. (What we called "half days", back then). One would hate to get a printer error because of some cyrillic font or A4 paper.

    Also consider MS employees are very generous in charity giving too. MS matches. How generous I think in the 30 mil range each year.

    So like the real world, there are a lot of details one needs to consider.

    Would I work there as a Senior VP? Maybe in research, not in apps or OS tho.

    Dean
     
  49. DrewN

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    I originally voted yes but I change my mind. If I wanted to be creative this is the wrong environment. Too much politics and red tape to get through to get things done, it's the curse of big business. If you want to change anything you'd need to get through 5 layers of management approval, no thanks.
     
  50. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    Hell, yeah, if I got paid enough. I might be studying law this fall and I am Anti-DRM and frequent torrent-sites, but I would have no problem working in MS' law-department if they payed me enough.
     
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